Basketball: Chet Holmgren, the #1 player and Center, got his first crystal ball from Travis Branham (247 sports) today for Gonzaga.
If you have followed basketball recruiting there have been a lot of whispers about Gonzaga but this is the first time someone has put it down as a prediction.
Also, Hunter Sallis, the number 6 player in the country out of Nebraska is also a lean to Gonzaga. Hes a combo guard.
Looks like Few may load back up for next year. I'm not sure on their roster composition for next year but Suggs is lost likely gone to the NBA. These 2 would fill a nice void for them either way. They already have to guys 6'8 210 lbs committed. Both are top 70 players.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:14 PM ^
Now this is an informative post title.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
Meh, he could have included what time tbe crystal ball was put in.
December 31st, 2020 at 10:32 PM ^
Or a link to the Gonzaga 247 site.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:52 PM ^
Yep, it sure is, good job Jordan!
Mark Few is starting to make Gonzaga the Duke of the west without the conference competition Duke has to deal with.
I thought we were also in the running for Sallis?
December 31st, 2020 at 3:11 PM ^
Though we technically still have space, with six commits signed (and at least one at every position), our class is basically complete. Guys like Holmgren and Sallis are one-and-dones, and they probably don't want to go someplace that's already signed a top prospect at their position.
December 31st, 2020 at 4:47 PM ^
Chet’s the top player in the country...I doubt he’s worried about playing time next year.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^
Chet looks like the real deal. Would want.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:01 PM ^
He looks scrawny and I expect he'll get pushed around next year. I like HD's game a little better.
Once Chet gets in a proper college training program, I agree his game will evolve nicely, but I don't see him as instant impact or 1&D.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:07 PM ^
At center you might be right but every NBA scout thought KD would get pushed around and outmuscled as well and always cited his horrific bench as needing to get stronger. He did none of that and still flourished.
To be honest, Chet reminds me of Porzingis which is huge upside but I worry more about him getting injured than pushed around. His intangibles are off the chart if he stays healthy. He already shows nice outside touch that you would covet in a stretch 5 role. Putting on the weight should be the easy part in a top basketball conditioning program I would think.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:21 PM ^
It's an interesting point, but Durant has the advantage of being taller/longer than everybody he faces. Different deal if you're playing the 5
December 31st, 2020 at 3:54 PM ^
I doubt Holmgren plays the 5 at the next level. He has wing skills.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
Difference is KD played wing while Chet is a big. There's a difference on who Chet have to defend and I'm not sure if he'll be effective down low in the B1G with bigs who has the size to bully him down low.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:26 PM ^
Chet plays like a wing. He only plays center in HS because that's a natural position for him in high school where size varies wildly school to school and he can dominate on the inside. In college, he'll be like a forward first and a center second (to mix things up).
Chet has done well in AAU and the NBAPA100 camp against similarly talented competition.
Here's the famous clip of Chet besting Steph Curry on a shake-and-bake. That's not your typical big man. Like some have said, he's a unicorn like Porzingis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC0hpjBo2z8
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I'm hoping Branham's Gonzaga CB will end up incorrect. (I know he has a 98% accuracy rate. Here's hoping he has another rare miss.)
It seems Chet is deciding between Gonzaga and Michigan.
I don't know if Franz leaves after 2 seasons or plays 3 seasons in a Michigan uniform like his brother did.
But I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a Holmgren-Houstan-Wagner-Diabate-Dickinson line-up.
Believe it or not, 7' Chet Holmgren can play like a point forward. (He does that for his high school time to time.) If I'm Coach Juwan Howard, I use that as one of the major selling points. I would let Holmgren periodically play as a 7' point guard and let him initiate the offense in transition or in the half-court.
December 31st, 2020 at 1:30 PM ^
Yeah those are incredible handles/coordination for being that tall. He is a matchup nightmare at the wing.
December 31st, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
idk, his dribble seems kinda high. lol. /s
December 31st, 2020 at 1:50 PM ^
Chet doesn't consider himself to be a center, and neither does his father, who has said numerous times that his son is a point forward.
December 31st, 2020 at 2:36 PM ^
He’s definitely not a forward. He doesn’t have the shot creation as a 7’ footer to play forward. He can be a playmaking center a la Jokic but he still needs weight to be a 5 long term. I know he can dribble a little bit in an open gym or playing high school kids but this kid will not be the guy setting up the offense. Very talented overall and don’t want to limit the prospect but a point forward just isn’t there.
December 31st, 2020 at 3:07 PM ^
"He’s definitely not a forward. He doesn’t have the shot creation as a 7’ footer to play forward."
I'm disagree. I've watched him play a few times and I think he can do it. He shouldn't be the primary PG for a team but there's no reason why he can't function like a taller Shaun Livingston.
One of the best things his coaches ever did was make sure he had guard skills. He talked about it in a SLAM (or Ball is Life) video iirc.
December 31st, 2020 at 5:01 PM ^
He's not a 5. This isn't the 80s where if you're the tallest player on the floor, then you have to bang down low. He's a wing who can handle and initiate offense. Any coach that tries to pigeonhole him into the 5-spot would be showing a great deal of malpractice.
December 31st, 2020 at 10:37 PM ^
7'1" and 190, that's beyond scrawny. At a minimum, the lack of thickness is a legit concern for first year playing time.
January 1st, 2021 at 2:24 AM ^
Chet is Franz Wagner but better at everything and taller. He is weaker though.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:20 PM ^
Holmgren seems like the perfect prospect for Gonzaga's developmental process.
I really hope they finally win it all this year.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:24 PM ^
Are you starting a cyber bot disinformation campaign to distract from Michigan winning it all this year?!?!?!?
December 31st, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Few isn't really used to these one and done players so it'll be interesting to see how things go with these players going forward. Suggs is a 1st rounder this year and I dont think Chet will be around for a 2nd year either. Sallis most likely won't either. It'll be a new environment for Few. What he will have the luxury of, much like this year, is adding this talent to upper classmen.
December 31st, 2020 at 3:45 PM ^
I hope we get to play them and pound them into the core of the earth again.
December 31st, 2020 at 4:44 PM ^
I've been a Gonzaga fan since their first Elite 8 run and obviously a Michigan fan from before that. Watching Gonzaga this year they are huge and talented across all positions. Their center can move and has a bit of forward to his game. Like an older Hunter Dickenson with a bit more to his game. Suggs is a stud and the rest of the team is loaded.
I think Michigan would lose by double digits.
December 31st, 2020 at 5:54 PM ^
Sooooo .... you’re saying there’s a chance?
December 31st, 2020 at 11:38 PM ^
Fuck outta here I hope Michigan wins it every year
December 31st, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
This would be a monster get for them; will be pretty epic to see Michigan teams of the near future play these Gonzaga teams.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:25 PM ^
Few is a great coach who has been running a clean program for decades. Happy to see a school like Gonzaga, which is tiny and located outside of the typical P5 orbit do so well for so long.
His HS team mate was Jalen Suggs, so i am sure he has put in a good word.
This would be a big loss for Minnesota - I know there has been some whispers about Michigan, but i think they fell back with the verbal of Diabate (though they are different positional players).
Sallis would be a big loss for Nebraska and Hoiberg - who I think is a pretty good coach.
If Few got them both, that would be a huge class for them...easily the best ever.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:34 PM ^
Its gonna be interesting to see their roster management to sign these 2. They have 2 seniors and Suggs who is a first round pick who will be gone. Someone else will have to go to are room because they have 2 other commits as well, although neither one signed.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:40 PM ^
yeah, i don't know too much about Gonzaga's scholarship challenges... "First World" problems though, as I am sure Few will figure something out if that comes to pass.
I am sure Michigan is continuing to stay in touch with a few of the remaining players like Holmgren as well...And if one did want to come, Michigan would probably try to find a way to make it happen.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
OSU is most likely his #1 B1G school at this point, so I'm more than happy if he ends up at Gonzaga.
December 31st, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^
What Few has done there is astonishing. I know Dan Monson first built them up, but he's maintained it for two decades, in a small conference. Jerry Tarkanian is the only coach I can think of who's done anything similar and his circumstances were . . . different.
December 31st, 2020 at 2:19 PM ^
Tarkanian was a weird SOB.
December 31st, 2020 at 3:13 PM ^
Tarkanian is a hero if you ask me.
He hated the NCAA before it was fashionable to do so. In fact, he took the NCAA to court (all the way to the Supreme Court) and kinda won. (It's complicated.) He played a major role in changing public perception about the NCAA as a corrupt institution.
And he was a masterful defensive coach. I've read from people who would know that he used to dedicate most of practices (around 2/3 to 3/4) to teaching defense.
The guy went 122-20 at Long Beach State. Again, Long freaking Beach State. LBS hasn't had that level of success since Tarkanian left for UNLV and made UNLV into an excellent program.
December 31st, 2020 at 4:26 PM ^
Glad you posted this. Tark deserves the respect.
December 31st, 2020 at 7:54 PM ^
I loved my UNLV Starter jacket in the early ‘90s....I loved the ‘90s period!!
December 31st, 2020 at 12:30 PM ^
This is a win for us. I'm fine with those guys leaving the conference footprint for college.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Gotta say, I love the glass half full look at this.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:38 PM ^
Well if he was watching Teske with Beilein, and the contrast of Dickinson with Howard, and as a true freshman mind you, then he should be floored by the coaching Dickinson is getting, and should strongly consider playing for Howard...
December 31st, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Despite the title here, which is understandable given 247’s positional listing, Chet is very much not a center and probably wouldn’t be swayed too much by watching Hunter bang down low. Totally a wing in play style. The definition of a unicorn.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:57 PM ^
Wagner, Houston/Diabate, Chet, and Hunter on the same floor. I need to take a cold shower
December 31st, 2020 at 1:14 PM ^
Unicorn is exactly what he is. Just like Porzingis.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:41 PM ^
Booooo
that’s my non-expert opinion
December 31st, 2020 at 12:43 PM ^
Not to thread-jack, but UNLV commit top 50 player Zaon Collins just got arrested for a DUI. Frankie Collins just posted some pictures with him on his Instagram story and seemed frustrated and disappointed so I hope he's not involved as it appears they're close
December 31st, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
You’re understating it a bit, unfortunately. The DUI was the lesser charge, as the crash resulted in the death of a man who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
December 31st, 2020 at 4:01 PM ^
Wow. Is vehicular homicide the highest charge he can face?
Edit
DUI-related vehicular homicide and is one of the most serious charges a Nevada driver can face for allegedly causing a car accident. Vehicular homicide charges are punished by 10 to 25 years in prison, and may or may not include the possibility of parole after 10 years.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:45 PM ^
I watched the game earlier this season that featured Chet's team vs Emoni Bates and his prep school.
I feel anybody that watched that game came out believing Chet is definitely a better prospect. Both in terms of impact on the court and leadership.
December 31st, 2020 at 12:48 PM ^
Totally agree. Bates and papa Bates straight up kicked a kid out of their fake school because he didn’t pass it to him enough. I’d take Chet all day.