Antonio Pierce
We’re all disappointed over how the first few weeks of the season have thus far unfolded. There’s obviously been a significant number of people on here calling for Harbaugh’s head but I’ve been brainstorming what could be done while retaining Harbaugh because I don’t think he’s gone after the year. Offensively, I don’t anticipate much changes to the staff.
Defense- This is the side of the ball I think we all expect some changes. I think Brown, Nua and obviously Shoop need to be replaced. I keep Zordich because despite his recruiting short comings I think he’s a very good developer. Sure, our secondary stinks this year but that doesn’t wipe away his very good track record since he’s been here. Now the question becomes who do you replace Brown with? I wasn’t looking for someone that just happens to be a position coach at a powerhouse program or some small school defensive coordinator that is a huge question mark. After looking around I came across former Giants linebacker and current Co-DC at Arizona State, Antonio Pierce.
I think Pierce is an intriguing candidate. He appears to be serious about coaching and started out his coaching career as HC at California HS powerhouse, Long Beach Poly. He was then hired away by Arizona State to be their linebacker coach before being promoted as Co-DC and Recruiting Coordinator. His other half on the DC front is former Bengals HC Marvin Lewis whom is known for his defensive mind. Additionally, I went and looked at the 247 recruiter rankings and Pierce continues to show up much higher in the ranking than a coach from Arizona State should otherwise be with multiple years inside the top 25. For reference, his ranking has been right in that Gattis/Sherrone range. He’s only making $300k a year at ASU so a significant pay raise along with the opportunity to run the show on defense at a big name program could be a good selling point.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:11 PM ^
Justin Feagin
November 18th, 2020 at 1:28 PM ^
Shavodrick Beaver
November 18th, 2020 at 1:16 PM ^
It was too much trouble to type the "CC:" as part of the title...
November 18th, 2020 at 1:19 PM ^
Demar Dorsey
November 18th, 2020 at 1:19 PM ^
O LET DO IT!
November 18th, 2020 at 1:20 PM ^
If this line doesn't scare you off, nothing will
He appears to be serious about coaching.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:24 PM ^
Why would that scare anyone off? The point I was trying to make is that he started at the high school level and has continued to work his way through the coaching ranks. Based on what I've read the guy wants to be a coach and isn't simply treating this all as an exercise to cure his boredom of early retirement.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:32 PM ^
can we trade Nua?
November 18th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
Well, if we have to consider the 'seriousness' quotient for a coach that is the DC (co-, or otherwise) of a P5 college program, it's a non-starter. Don't want any half-assed attempt by some schmuck that might not be serious about his profession...
Otherwise, the negs are from the shit-tastic title you chose, not the post content. And you deserve them for that title.
November 18th, 2020 at 5:40 PM ^
+1 for shit-tastic reference ?
November 18th, 2020 at 1:32 PM ^
Thanks for a rational and reasonable post. I don't know enough about Pierce to make a judgement. What I do know is that whoever replaces Brown needs to be a dynamite recruiter and is open to innovative ideas. That usually means they are younger, a bit more energetic, and not so stuck in their ways (basically the opposite of Brown or Shoop).
Can we lure Partridge back? Or maybe we can steal someone from OSU. He isn't that young and maybe it's a pipe dreams but Larry Johnson would be a total home run in my opinion (though I have heard some personal issues with him). He has the OSU DL swimming with top talent and top performance.
If the Mattison and Washington flips taught us anything, it's that these type of coaching shifts can totally change the dynamic of The Game.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:40 PM ^
Al Washington grew up an OSU fan, his dad played for the Buckeyes. Not surprised he left. Mattison probably got sick of Jim and took a pay raise to coach better players.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
November 18th, 2020 at 4:50 PM ^
Benjamins talk in terms of taking jobs.
I think the bigger point mentioned is "dynamic" recruiter. The D coaches do not seem to be dynamic in recruiting since we lost CP to Lane or Mattison to OSU for that matter.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^
The problem you're going to run into with Larry Johnson, aside from his OSU connections, are his connections to - and defense of - Joe Paterno. He was on Paterno's staff, with Schiano, when they all defended his actions regarding Jerry Sandusky.
November 18th, 2020 at 3:52 PM ^
Not to mention he's damn near 70.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:33 PM ^
People misuse “who” for “whom” all the time. Ok, whatever. But misusing “whom” for “who,” that is something rare indeed.
November 18th, 2020 at 4:08 PM ^
"whom" has come to seem more refined.
It's the same as misusing "I" as the object of a verb: "The guy told him and I." ("The guy told I"—?)
November 18th, 2020 at 7:40 PM ^
Just for clarification 'who' modifies the subject of a clause 'whom' modifies the object.
The sentence in question - "His other half on the DC front is former Bengals HC Marvin Lewis, whom is known for his defensive mind."
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the subject in this sentence is 'His' referring to Pierce? Whereas Lewis is the object of the preposition 'on'. Therefore the use of 'whom' in the case is correct.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^
Why is it so obvious that Shoop needs to be gone?
November 18th, 2020 at 1:38 PM ^
Well it would seem as though he is not here at all.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^
I dont even care anymore And i dont even care that i dont care anymore Just fix the shit i see on Saturdays
November 18th, 2020 at 3:14 PM ^
The last 3 Saturdays have actually been offensive to shit, and shit would prefer not to be associated with them.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^
His name is Robert Paulson.
November 18th, 2020 at 5:49 PM ^
+1 for......well, no, I can't talk about it.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^
Came here to neg. That's it.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:43 PM ^
Ok. I negged you. Stop by anytime.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^
Boubacar Cissoko
November 18th, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^
Solid candidate, I’d be willing to give him a shot. I think you have to fire Zordich though if you ever want the refs to go back to calling PI evenly. As every announcer says, Michigan has a reputation and we need to change that.
edit: also isn’t Zordich’s recruiting the main reason we are having this problem? I’m ready to cut bait at this point. Lewis and Hill aren’t fans of him. Long left early. Sims left. We had some good years but time for a change.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:13 PM ^
Changing an otherwise anonymous DB coach isn't going to change the team's well earned reputation...
November 18th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
I don’t think he’s that anonymous and I know that it’s certainly not helping. He’s teaching them to be grabby and he’s not teaching them to get away with it. Every announcer talks about Michigan’s reputation, opposing coaches complain to the league, and the last 3 games show me that reputation matters. MSU got away with PI and Michigan never will under this current defensive staff
November 18th, 2020 at 1:49 PM ^
Wait. I thought we had to actually have a HC vacancy before rando posters started creating rando HC candidates for "the boards thoughtful consideration."
Fuck me if this has really started already. If memory serves we had roughly 1,069,761 threads created back in 2014 on this terribly exciting topic so God help us all if so.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:15 PM ^
Where 'ya been? Hope you had a good time!
The 'cc:' posts have been popular since MSU. This is one of them, only more weakly titled than the others...
November 18th, 2020 at 1:56 PM ^
What's the inverse of polishing a turd? Shit-smearing a diamond?
This would be a good comment in a thread following the firing of Don Brown. There's a decent amount of relevant information that you went out and found yourself.
However, as a standalone post on the board with THAT title when nobody's been fired...it's annoying at best.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^
At this point, I'd be willing to give him a shot. I've been following ASU's football program the last two years (daughter is a student there) including the game against USC (which ASU dominated until the very end) and the upset last year vs Oregon, so to me, the team appears very well coached. Plus Antonio Pierce can clearly recruit with his ties to talent rich SoCal and pro experience.
November 18th, 2020 at 1:58 PM ^
Antonio Banderas
Pierce Brosnan
November 18th, 2020 at 2:03 PM ^
Kevin Gaines as DC. Kelly Baraka as DL coach. LB coach dream candidate would be either Nicolaus Copernicus or Thomas the Train. I'd keep Zordich as DB coach.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^
Keith Jackson
November 18th, 2020 at 2:30 PM ^
Justice League
November 18th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
Tshimanga Biakabutuka
November 18th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
Space but with speed
November 19th, 2020 at 2:24 AM ^
That might work better than the sloth in confines approach we seem to be taking at the moment.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^
I have mentioned his names in multiple threads. I think it’s a great option too.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:47 PM ^
Exhaustipated
Def: Too tired to give a shit anymore
November 18th, 2020 at 2:51 PM ^
I'm still a Ron English (current Florida safeties coach) fan. Also, Cato June is coaching at UMass and can recruit DMV plus the NE. He won a ring with the Colts. Both would jump all over the opportunity to come back.
November 18th, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^
We had 10, 7, and 0 points at halftime in a sport that is now all about offense (e.g. KC Chiefs, LSU)
And you think the main problem is the defense? Huh.
Fix the damn offense, man.
LSU would literally have been 9-4 last year with Harbaugh/Gattis running their offense.
November 18th, 2020 at 4:38 PM ^
Chris Partridge - DC (replaces Brown)
Steve Clinkscale - Safeties (Shoop)
November 18th, 2020 at 6:59 PM ^
I agree to an extent. Ben McDaniels has got to go and I so wish there was a way to keep Sherrone for recruiting purposes (I'm not sure he'd be for the position of recruiting coordinator) and move Jay back to tight ends. Then we hire an elite recruiter at quarterbacks and running backs. The oline is full of young players who just haven't found their groove yet; I'm willing to give them a pass. Same with quarterbacks on top of what I feel is a bad coach. I also feel we should hire one coach for defensive backs, (along with new dc and dl coach) then hire another wide receivers coach and let Gattis focus just on coordinating. But I'm sure someone on here will let me know how stupid I am for thinking any of this.
November 18th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^
Dave Portnoy