So I have the entire day to fart around and catch the latest on the coaching search. I think I might play video games instead.
Afternoon Open Thread
And so it begins . . . Have fun with the planning! Friendly advice: Stay out of it as long as you can. And if you are forced to make a decision, choose something ridiculous and she won't ask you opinion anymore.
We have an appointment Monday to go look at a potential spot for the reception. Joy. Supposedly, the place serves bacon so I'm satisfied.
the only problem with bacon is that it makes you thirsty...for more bacon
Tell her you want to have input into the decision-making/ cost.
Stay out of the details, but make her a least give you options on things like colors. There is nothing worse than coming down to the day and realizing your entire wedding is frilly pink...
Unless of course that is exactly what she's always wanted, then it's best to keep your mouth shut and deal with it (that's what open bar is for...)
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
inability to do anything that would give me faith in him disturbing.
Let's see what the man does before we start digging his grave. It's frustrating that we don't have a coach, but we have no idea what he's been doing this week and that's not because he hasn't been doing anything.
For all the veneration the man was getting around here - like the silly Internet "pimp hand" nonsense - he has done almost nothing to merit his stratospheric reputation.
I will try to reserve judgment, but if he truly is as bad of an AD as he appears to be right now, what is the process for firing DB?
Do you know for a fact Dave Brandon is doing nothing? Come on. It's day 4.
I don't understand the knee-jerk panic. At all.
but it's January 8th, and we announced yesterday that we were hiring a search committee. There don't appear to be any candidates on the board other than two guys who wouldn't be very good hires. Is it possible that we'll end up with a surprise coach a week from now? Sure. But there's a time factor here that is really, really important. We're going to miss out on two guys today who were very highly rated recruits at positions of need and who would be going to Michigan if we weren't lacking a coach (well, one for sure would-the other we'd just have a good shot with). Recruiting is the life blood of a program and we're in line for quite possibly Michigan's worst recruiting class since people started caring about recruiting , and it's directly traceable to the fact that it's January 8th and no one has any idea who our coach is going to be. That's just plain bad.
I can understand somewhat why RR was fired. It was not a decision that I agreed with, but there were some plausible reasons for his termination. What does not make sense to me is that DB failed to line up a replacement before letting him go. I thought his CEO background was supposed to be a plus?
I mean, this is elementary stuff in the business world - a company needs a clear succession plan or things start to go south quickly. DB supposedly had a "dynamic list" of candidates - which basically is a CYA phrase for "I haven't started yet." He fired a good coaching mind for a high-risk gamble on Harbaugh that didn't work out, left a power vaccuum in the football program, and failed to have a back-up plan.
We might still get a good coach, but it's hard not to argue that DB hasn't spectacularly bungled the process, and reflects poorly on his leadership ability.
Recruit for character not for talent. We won't know the value of this class until at least 2 years down the road anyways. Why so much negativity? Every post I've seen of your's is a downer, try to have some faith not a debbie downer. Not saying the views are wrong, just in a time like this we have to try to stay positive, no matter how minscule that positive is.
Dude would be ice fishing or something right now. Good riddance.
the hate that Bill Martin gets. in his watch he hired Beilein, hired Rich Rod (yeah, it didn't work out -- he still hired the best candidate on the market at the time), kept Maloney, made the Athletic Department insanely profitable, got the Big House renovated etc. etc.
And need I remind you that the coach we missed out on because of the fishing incident has since eaten grass on national television, proven himself incapable of telling time, told his team to spike the ball with 0 seconds left, and gotten rid of kids in an incredibly shady fashion and then lied about it?
All of that is true. The only mistake Martin made is underestimating the power of angry Michigan fans/alumni/boosters. Because of that he will go down as a failure, despite all the good he did to right the ship after the Goss catastrophe.
he won a national championship since then
For you to criticize David Brandon's handling of the coaching search while praising Martin's is the height of cognitive dissonance. Martin flailed around for three weeks before RR fell into his lap. Brandon has been searching for three days.
It is hard to praise a guy who offered the job to Greg Schiano. I think Martin got the hire right in the end but he was more lucky than good.
Don't know if he would have come as ND was his dream job, but Brian Kelly was the guy we should have gotten in 2007.
As much as the next coach will be cleaning up Rich's 'mess,' so too is DB cleaning up Martin's. Helluva bean counter, I'll give him that...
Dave Brandon looks like he might be about to hire Brady Hoke.
If you hired a guy with Rich Rodriguez's resume 1 million times and a guy with Brady Hoke's resume 1 million times, which one do you think would end up with better results?
So many assumptions...
We hired a guy with Rich Rodriguez's resume once. And had to let him go 3 years later. It just goes to show you can't gauge how a coach will fit and perform in a program based on prior results.
Why resign Hoke to failure before he coaches a single game at Michigan. if indeed he gets the job?
I'm resigning the idea of hiring a guy like Brady Hoke to failure. I feel like people are missing out on an important point here: even if Brady Hoke ends up being a massive success it is still a bad hire.
Hiring a coach isn't a certainty. You're just buying a probability that your team will be good going forward. Hiring a guy with Nick Saban's resume is virtually guaranteed to make your team awesome. Hiring a guy with GERG's is virtually guaranteed to make your team suck.
Hiring Rich Rodriguez was a high probability move that didn't work out. That doesn't mean it's a bad hire. Hiring a guy with a a career losing record over 8 seasons coaching in the MAC and the MWC is an incredibly low probability move. If Brady Hoke ends up awesome, it will mean Michigan has gotten lucky, and I don't want the success of our next hire to depend on luck.
didn't most of success largely depend on Luck?
I feel like people are missing out on an important point here: even if Brady Hoke ends up being a massive success it is still a bad hire.
Um..... What?! Isn't that a little like saying Tom Brady was a bad draft pick? Or perhaps that Antonio Gates was a bad signing for the Chargers? Or that trading for Brett Favre was a bad move by the Packers?
The proof of the pudding is in the tasting. If DB hires Hoke and he ends up returning Michigan to the college football elite in short order... Given all the skepticism and negativity thrown around about how Hoke has never seen a football before I think massive success would pretty much make it a brilliant hire.
I'm not saying Hoke will do that, but I do think the hate people have for him here is a little irrational. I don't know if he's the best hire for Michigan, but it's pretty clear the guy can coach.
I don't think that's the analogy he's making at all.
Getting Brady really was lucky for the Pats. He was a small gamble that paid off huge. If the organization really had any idea what they were getting they wouldn't have passed on him to draft guys like Greg Robinson (ntGR) and Jeff Marriot.
The situation that analogizes the point is poker.. If you call a couple raises and eventually go all in preflop with 35 against KK, you could still win, and if if you do it enough times you should and will win. Winning doesn't prove that the decision to keep calling was somehow not stupid.
Brady Hoke is 35 off; Rich was KK.
That Rodriguez sucked in his tenure here doesn't mean hiring him wasn't the right decision. You should take an accomplished, impeccably resumed coach every time over a less accomplished one.
That's why even if Hoke does happen to succeed, he's a poor hire. There is no reasonable expectation for success. If he does succeed, it will be due to luck or DB's ability to see into the future.
down to the poker analogy.
The expected value of hiring Brady Hoke is so much less than the EV of hiring Rich Rodriguez that it's absurd.
And being results oriented is a good way to go broke.
Yes, I understood his point from a risk/reward perspective. I concede the Brady anology was not apt, but the Favre anology isn't bad (the Pack gave up a first round pick for him and he hadn't shown anything in his year at Atlanta).
Regardless, I disagree with your poker anology for the same reason I agree with statement to which my post was directed. A deck of cards is a known quantity. We can accurately calculate probabilities with the confidence that we know those quantities. You are assuming that "coaching resume," (defined as wins/losses, championships, perceived success as an assistant, etc.) represents the total quantity from which the probability of success at Michigan can be estimated. My point is that you can't simply quantify what makes a successful coach (or what will make one successful at a given coaching position) with such ease and confidence. People are not cards in a deck.
I will stipulate that Hoke's resume is not as gilded as some other potential candidates. From there, though, you conclude that if he is hired and succeeds, Brandon must therefore have simply gotten lucky. I would conclude that Brandon likely knew something that we didn't, or at any rate used more factors in estimating the probability of success than you did. You say that Rich Rodriguez, despite all that has happened, was still a smart hire-- because you assume that your criteria for determining the quality of a candidate is accurate and complete. But perhaps if other things besides "coaching resume" are taken into account (like "program fit," or regional knowledge/recruiting ties, or ability to handle recruiting for a more academicaly demanding school, for instance), the hire doesn't look quite as smart and his failure here can be more logically explained instead of resorting to an assumption of "bad luck." By the same token, perhaps there are other factors not as easily taken into account that may make Hoke a better candidate than some others with apparently better resumes. If we don't take as our premise that Dave Brandon is an incompetent moron who doesn't know the first thing about football, then it may make more sense (given a Brady Hoke success) to conclude that Brandon understood those factors and took them into account when making his decision.
So where is Bo Force One right now?
But it is only there to pick up a load of severed heads and will be gone in two hours.
This is the first +1 I've been able to give out in the past three days.
Maybe Denard could just be player-coach....
I am also still on board with going after the ghost of Bo.
Two possible drawbacks:
1. Ghost would be considered a spirit rather than a man so "Michigan Man" title may not fit therefore acceptance by Michigan family questionable.
2. Recruiting could be an issue for those who don't believe in ghosts.
Posted this on another thread but I'll put it here where there aren't many replies yet:
Does anyone else wonder what coaches think about the '11 and '12 schedules? We've got a fairly brutal schedule in '11 then you add Alabama in '12. I wonder how enthusiatic any coach would be to come into a situation where a team got mauled by all of it's tough opponents the year before and then has two brutal schedules up coming. Add to the fact that our fanbase/alumni doen't seem to be the most realistic folks in the world. I'm starting to wonder who the hell would set themselves up to fail like that.
My immediate reaction is that football coaches are arrogant as hell and would see the tough schedule as a plus. I doubt they contemplate failure.
I was thinking that too, but then I thought that they're not idiots so their arrogance probably falls within reasonable limits.
That is a much easier schedule. Swapping Wisky and PSU for Northwestern and Minnesota is a win. ND, Nebraska, and OSU are at home. Iowa, MSU, and OSU also lose high quality senior classes.
If you are going to enter the new Big Ten as a head coach, this is probably the easiest way to do it.
Fair enough. I wasn't really considering NU any easier than PSU but Wisky for Minn is a win. I'm not sure with our current team home or away for Iowa, MSU, and OSU really makes a difference.
I was laying in bed this morning wondering what potential coaches think about THE GAME. Love him or hate him, Tressel's a coach.... and our next coach will come on campus knowing he'll win or lose his job according to his record against OSU. That could play on someone's decision.
I then concluded that if any coach might be afraid to come here to face the damn Buckeyes, then I never wanted his frilly dress-wearin' ass anyway.
That I agree with you about Tressel, but after this bowl game he's absolutely cemented his spot in the win-at-all-cost-ethics-be-damned hall of fame and there is no excusing that. Coaches are supposed to be teachers also and what had Pryor learned?
That future schedules have anything to do with a coach's decision to take a job. Not that they've been great hires or anything, but if the schedules were take into account, ND would NEVER have a coach.
I was thinking about the schedule in respect to the team you play the schedule with. The ND teams that new coaches transitioned to seemed to have a bit more talent than the current UM team does.
that Brennen Beyer is reconsidering at this point, which yes, of course...
Been thinkin' alot about Les this morning. That's a heckuva lot of wins he's racked up down there. I like wins....?
You asked the question. Just answerin'.
Why is it the two most likely coaches right now, are coaches that I would prefer we didn't hire. Miles is a douche bag and Hoke is so unknown that all I know about him is that he is fat, at least prior to a couple weeks ago anyway.
I would also like to take this time and say that I have lost all faith in DB. He fired his coach and it would appear that he didn't have a plan in place to replace him. No matter who he hires at this point I would say he fucked this up fantastically.
Miles is a douche bag, but I got over that after JH almost got hired.
Good to hear some one else thinks Harbaugh is on the douchey side. He bailed on his former school as well as his current team and QB. I wish him nothing but failure in the future. May our paths cross again when we are on our way up and he is on his way down.
While I never saw him as a panacea, unless he verbally "committed" mto Brandon, he did nothing wrong. And "bailing on his team"... Isn't that exactly what we will be asking someone to do?
Yes we will. Only I root for Michigan so that is OK. I know I am a hypocrite but what ever at this point. My problem with Harbaugh is he passed on Michigan knowing that this may be his only oppurtunity to ever coach at this University. So yeah that makes me say fuck him.
He bailed on a program. A school that gave him a scholarship, essentially as a favor to his father. He's dead to me. Death to the 49ers.
He doesn't owe us anything! The school gave him a scholarship so he could play 4 years of football. He gave four years of his life to play football at a great university. End of transaction
Bitter much? He moved on to a bigger opportunity in the pros. Maybe you're disappointed that he's not our coach, but have some class. "I wish him nothing but failure". Maybe you were in the "welcome home Harbaugh" camp to begin with, but wow. Maybe sit out a few plays
Nope, I was in the RR gets a fourth year camp. I know that statement is a bit harsh about Harbaugh, so let me rephrase it. When he loses I will not be upset.
Well, at the very least, he knew he was leaving his alma mater hanging. That's un-dude.
Brandon said himself that he didn't expect Harbaugh to come. The rest was pure speculation
So, did you also wish failure and ill will upon RR when he took the UM job three years ago? Just sayin'.
They are just the usual suspect names that keep popping up on the internet. Hopefully in the next day or two we see the plan (I can understand Brandon waiting until the dust has settled on the Harbaugh thing to announce/decide anything).
Hopefully my continued willingness to give DB the benefit of the doubt will be rewarded when Jon Gruden is putting on a martial arts demonstration at mid court during tomorrow's half time festivities at Crisler.
In my opinion DB is not what you should put your faith in, he has proved unworthy of that trust. Put your faith in the amount of money he has to offer a coach, which I am hoping off sets his ineptitude at this point.
Unworthy of trust?
The MGoHits keep on rolling today.
I blame the gator bowl
I know we got killed in the Gator Bowl and that this was supposedly the final nail in RR's coffin, but honestly, I don't understand why - it's not like the team became magically became more talented over the course of a month since the OSU game. Sure, RR made some coaching mistakes - but honestly, you could bring in Rex Ryan or Bill Belicheck and that defense would still have been a mess, because it's fundamentally an issue of starting young, inexperienced guys and walk-ons. Coaching was arguably not the main problem - talent was, and that's not an insult to our kids, just the recognition that many of them are extremely young and inexperienced.
Misissippi State is a very good football team that hung with the best of the SEC - why did anyone anticipate that we would be able to compete at that level when it's obvious that the talent differential between Michigan and the good Big Ten teams is huge, to say nothing of the SEC?
I think RR deserved another year, on the condition that there was a shakeup on defense. The great irony is that we fired a good coaching mind and will now probably end up with the pedestrian schemes of Brady Hoke.
Ifs and Buts. RR is gone and not coming back. I would've liked to see him another year, but it's fruitless to argue about it anymore
Michigan's offense, RR's supposed saving grace, never scored after the first quarter of the OSU game and the Gator Bowl. So suddenly the one thing keeping RR's job in tact, our awesome offense, had regressed massively. This after a month of practicing and preparing. And this is with a fully healthy offense in the Gator Bowl. It was the final straw for me, and I was a big RR supporter going into the bowl.
Yes. The really ironic thing was that the offense, relative to its early season production, regressed more than the defense did.
RR had a month to show what he could do against one team. His players would be playing for his job. What came of it? A 38-point loss, players tuning the coach out and parents of players complaining to Brandon about RR. That was it.
Honestly is there anyone on this board who really doesn't believe the next coach WON'T be Hoke? Honestly?
There is no other coach who is either more available, fits what Brandon wants, LOVES the university, understands the rivalries, and would literally eat the heads of our rivals.
I'm not saying he is the best coach, but what I am saying he is the best coach we can get currently and fits all of our needs (debatable how well but he DOES fit all of the needs outlined by Brandon).
I personally would love Patterson but that is a pipe dream. And for those who really think it will be Les Miles, we are talking about a university that still won't let Chris Webber on campus. We impose our own sanctions on football coaches who ask their players to excessively stretch. There is NO chance we will hire Les Miles. We are far too conservative to hire Les Miles.
We could get Dirk Koetter right now. We could probably get Jeff Tedford. There are loads of other guys we could get as well that just don't get mentioned. All of them are better coaches than Brady Hoke.
If Hoke is hired then Brandon is completely incompetent.
But I sure hope we exhaust all other options first. At the same time, we need to get someone in here and keep this team from falling apart. I would hate to think the last three years of suffering were for nothing.
Chris Webber is not allowed to associate with Michigan basketball, per the NCAA, until 2012. Not that he should ever be associated with Michigan basketball again anyway, but this particular instance is not at the University's behest.
Webber doesn't deserve to associate with Michigan basketball. He is a liar and a cheater (along with people like Steve Fisher) who disgraced the University of Michigan with their actions. Just like Reggie Bush at USC, they should be persona non grata indefinitely.
Your first sentence is a confusing double negative and doesn't make sense. If your trying to say that it will be Hoke then you should change your "doesn't" to a "does." Or change your "won't" to a "will".
Miles scares me. I thought there would never be anything that could make me give up my Michigan fandom. The Horror, 3-8, the endless winter of dong punches never made me stop wearing Maize and Blue.
Now an oversigning scumbag who lies to his players and cuts them with form letters. That would drive me away from the program. Come on DB, Hoke and losing with class is better than Miles and winning with a scumbag in charge.
This isn't overly dramatic at all.
Come fall, it'll be guys like CRex who will end up being Miles's biggest supporters. The emotional types swing from one extreme to the other.
Defending Rich, then turned on him completely after PSU.
and then we start winning and eventually he's not such a bad guy after all
Because he isn't Harbaugh, he's a bad guy.
Kind of the same way that because Brady Hoke isn't Harbaugh, he's the most inept rube to ever coach a football game.
There's going to be universal disdain around here no matter who Dave Brandon hires because it's already been decided that Dave Brandon is an aimless idiot, merely because Jim Harbaugh wanted to coach an NFL team in the Bay Area.
I think people are just freaking out because it looks like Brandon doesn't have a plan, in part because three days on the internet feels like 12 years (just think of how many places Harbaugh was or wasn't going to end up in just that short timeframe).
People don't think Hoke is a viable option because he's done nothing to prove he could be one of the top ten coaches in the country. That is who we should be going after and Hoke falls behind an enormous list of guys if we're looking at qualifications rather than borderline competence combined with a tenuous former association with the University.
Also, Harbaugh is an asshole because he acts like an asshole (going for two, kind of being a prick, having too much to drink and getting in the car). Miles is an asshole because he appears to operate his program without integrity or concern for his student athletes. On the character front I think Harbaugh has the edge until further notice when it comes to the question of "Who would I rather have as the face of the football program?"
I'm just throwing this out for more specualtion... haven't heard Mangini discussed. He's all NFL and doesn't have ties to Michigan... on the other hand, he's a great young defensive minded coach... if we're talking Gruden, why not throw Mangini into the mix.
I 'm all aboard the Gruden dicktrain. His interest in the Oregon OC position makes me think he could come here and start the "Third Coast Offense" with Denard. Sadly, this will probably not happen.
Why would we want a guy who has been fired twice since we made our last coaching hire?
I am just worried that the detroit media will have a field day with Miles. They'll agitate him until he says some crazy shit and then we'll become the coaching laughingstock of the league.
because we weren't already
If anyone around here remembers Goss, the halo, the Amaker hire, the red ink in the AD, they might be inclined to cut Martin some slack. Succession on the football staff was about the only thing he really blew, isn't it? OK, sure, that's probably the single biggest thing he could have blown but a lot of people around here thought a hiring like RR was exactly what we needed when going outside LC's staff was the only avenue. He sure as hell moved the AD forward onto better ground overall.
Goss set the bar awfully low.
I wonder why Mullen isn't talked about more as a candidate. I think he would be a good coach here. All he would need is to hire an old Michigan assistant or two and he would be accepted.
Gruden has always publicly squashed any rumors when his name comes up. ND and Miami come to mind. Anyone heard from Chuckie this past week?
I have to think To Many Miles and Old School Hoke are fallback options and DB is talking to some homeruns promising some serious money. If I were DB I would rather swing and miss with a huge name rather than second choices.
I realize everyone under the sun has been turning us down but the lack of other names out there actually gives me hope as backwards as that sounds.
anyone know what time they fire up that radio station in Baton Rouge again?
K.C. Keeler the more I think that he'd be a good fit for Michigan.
If DB just waited to break the news of the new coach right before the AA game (which is right now) and all the kids that were committing to other schools picked Michigan out of the BLUE. And, what coach would have that influence?
And he knows karate. Look out Tressel!
That or hire Rob Ryan. He will scare the kids into committing. Look out Tressel ('cause this time you might get stabbed)!
this guy seems to think dave brandon is talking to jon gruden in AZ
currently in Vegas. Maybe they're floating around the lazy river at Hard Rock together, drinking foofoo drinks...or more likely, some young Domino's executive is flying around in the company plane and stopped in Scottsdale to pick up some young who-ors before flying to Vegas for a weekend coke orgy. My guess is the latter. Gruden is not taking this job.
Is there anybody better to party with than someone who could probably get free pizza at the drop of a hat?
The mom of a roommate of a friend was an exec at Domino's. I remember going to their place to watch some Michigan hockey game my senior year. Kid walks in with a stack of free pizza coupons, pulls out his phone, and a half hour later we had five Domino's pizzas on the coffee table.
My brother worked at Mancino's. He once brought me home his leftover Chicken Parmesan sub.
But from the outside looking in it seems like Leroy Jenkins has punk'd the Athletic Department.
Sorry, but you all are over-thinking this way too much. The current name up on the board is Miles. They are working it feverishly and, hopefully, we get him. If that fails, we move on to Hoke. Hoke is a 100% guaranteed get (he has said so himself).
That is it. Cheer, mourn, put a bullet in your head, seek out and stab DB in the neck repeatedly -- do whatever you need to do to make peace with these two choices. We are in the 2 minute drill and the clock will soon run out. There is no time to chase (and whiff on) anyone else.
Because I hear the same thing. I only hope that DB is wise enough to be looking for another strong option. I have heard 2nd hand that Brandon was in fact in Pheonix and traveled on the Dominoes corp jet. (N220DF if you care to track it). If he's still with it, then he is currently in the Vegas area. Why? Hopefully interviewing someone not named Hoke or Miles.
If you look at the flight history it further reinforces that this is the plane Brandon uses. Jacksonville for the Gator Bowl - check. PSU for the basketball game-check.
The other plane in question (large M backer) is N929SR. Currently heading back from Thomasville Ga (near FSU) to Savannah. Was In Baton Rouge yesterday. Why? Could we be looking at their coaches or talking with agents? Maybe, or possibly just a January joy ride through the southeast.
Since this FB season is over, it's time to watch basketball.
Watching PSU v MSU and I think most of the High Schools in this area have more fans in attendance than this game.
now reads something like this:
"On January 8, 2011, it was reported that Jon Gruden and Michigan Athletic Director Dave Brandon were spotted together poolside at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. Gruden was enjoying a Draft Beer, while Brandon played the fiddle and drank Pina Coladas. No word as to whether or not any talk of the Michigan job took place, but the two were reported to be singing Hail to the Victors while pinching young coed's behinds."
The Pimp Hand is strong in this one.
It hurts whenever I sit down.
Within a week the michigan football team will have one of the most average pizza parties of all time, with a blacked-out Brady Hoke presiding.
1. Had Brandon hired a coach after the OSU game and then Harbaugh would have gone to the 49ers after the bowl, I cannot imagine how many people would be bitching about the fact that Brandon didn't wait to hire until after Stanford's bowl game to try to get Harbaugh. Now, because Harbaugh isn't in Ann Arbor, many are blasting him for not hiring in November/December.
2. While everyone wants to blame Brandon, Lloyd Carr, MSC, Stephen M. Ross, John Elway, Cher, SpongeBob Squarepants, etc., very few even want to mention that perhaps Jim didn't really want to come here after all of the unexpected orgasmic love from the NFL was poured on him, or that he wanted to stay on the West Coast because of family business, etc. No, no, no --- it is someone's fault. Someone in Ann Arbor. We know it. We KNOW it!
3. Brady Hoke is a bad coach and would be an absolute joke and embarrassment to the program. As opposed to say, having the 109th ranked defense in the United States of America. No, that wasn't embarrassing at all.
4. Now, if Brandon doesn't get Les Miles, again this is all the fault of the above mentioned culprits. There is absolutely no way in the world that Les Miles wouldn't be here unless other people poked their nose into "our" business and made sure he didn't come here. As Dotman said a while ago, people remember what they want to remember. I'm not saying he wouldn't be a good hire. I'm saying that there is always more than what meets the eye.
I'm more pessimistic and resigned to the fact that things are going to be rather bleak on Stadium and Main for a while as each day passes too, so don't think I'm mocking anyone in particular. I just don't think we can automatically blame one or two people, one or two weeks, one or two coaches.
Jim Tressel was introduced as OSU's football coach on January 19, 2001. Maybe, just maybe, our "inept, incompetent" AD will get something done that we can live with. Otherwise, maybe we can form a posse and storm the gates. :-)