247Sports Ranks Jalen Mayfield As The "Alpha Dog" In The Best Of The Midwest Camp
This is great news. The article also says Jalen is already up to 273 pounds and still shows "elite athleticism and balance."
http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/Top-Performers-Best-of-the-Midwest-s…
are multisport stars which explains why they aren't more bulked up. Ace has mentioned they shouldn't have trouble adding weight to their frames
It's going to be real fun down the road to see Michigan football once they have a dominant offensive line to go along with a great defense (hopefully sooner than later). Some people are worried about how Ohio is recruiting. I don't think it's going to matter much. Look at what Coach Harbaugh and Coach Drevno did at Stanford against USC with the talent/recruiting disparity. Now they've added Coach Frey. The future is bright.
You're not saying it exactly, but you seem to be worried about OSU's parade of top 100 guys compared to our parade of top 250 guys. And yeah, that difference is not ideal on paper, but the rivalry has already been balanced to the point that the traditional three point home field swing is relevant. With Meyer at OSU, we can't really hope for or expect anything more.
And that inability to develop talent really hurt us the past 2 years, especially on the OL
He left a bunch of underdeveloped 4 and 5 stars that went 5-7 in his final year. The ceiling for last year's team was limited because of that and Harbaugh did a fine job of getting that team to reach that ceiling. The talent level will improve going forward, as will the chances of beating OSU.
I agree with this. What I call the old regime (Hoke and going all the way back to Bo, excepting Rodriguez, whose recruiting was too complicated -- in a bad way -- for a single post) was into low-risk recruiting and had a little bit of an obsession with size. How often did we hear "Too small!" from those guys?
Hoke did not recruit as well along the offensive line. Harbaugh and Drevno turned them into all big ten, but know I see recruits who have all american type talent. I see Bredeson, Ruiz, Filiaga and Ekiyor and possibly others as all american type talent. I think our defense will always be better than osu's so if we can build a better o-line going forward we will be right there. As far as osu recruiting goes, yes on paper they are beating us in recruiting up to this point but I think that even changes with next years class which will be Michigans best ever. That clown Steele ranked our defense fourth in the big ten and offense like sixth this year. I see a lot of people sleeping on Michigan, but the secret will be out soon enough. Fourth and Sixth, ya maybe in the country Mr Steele.
Just to clarify I was saying are 2019 class I believe will rank higher than osu's. This years class is going to be very good also but with less recruits. Helmholdt thinks Ryan and Mayfield will never have tackle type size and that is rivals low rating bullshit. Mayfield is allready 275 and pushing 6'6". Harbaugh, Frey and Drevno as evaluators vs. clowns like Helmholdt etc. who do you take. You have to look at the recruiting sites and kind of see what the majority thinks anyways in most cases. Myles sims in my opinion is a top five cb, but 247 has him in the 300's which drags his rating way down. How is this even possible. Maybe some sites just need to catch up or just miss on some guys. Sims is just one case that I hope gets straightenened out because he could push for five star terrritory and I think he is the steal of the class. Look how high Ryan is allready and he hasn't even played at tackle yet. Some get it right and some don't but I think our coaching staff can watch a kid in person and see right away if he has what they want. Yes I think they are that good and especially with the o-line.
Ultimately, these ranking guys can be wrong and they just move on to the next batch of prospects. If coaches get it wrong, it can eventually mean their jobs. Coaches know what they want, just a question of how it serves the overall goal.
Coaches that can develop marginal abiltity into high-functioning or even elite ability are always going to do well. Harbaugh, Brown, Drevno and Frey have an established track record for this. All we need is a top-10 recruiting class, coaching makes up for the difference.
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Hoke had some pretty highly regarded OL classes.
interesting stats. some fail to recognize it or maybe they just choose to ignore or spin it or whatever but more often than not osu has out-recruited m (in the modern era). obviously m has won some battles and brought in higher ranked classes than osu over past 40 years or whatever but not as often as some may think. theyve been a recruiting powerhouse for some time...and with limited coaching transition costs or outright hiring mistakes, sadly its translated to consistent on-field performance. m appears to be closing the gap and hopefully it shows again this fall
The DL recruiting has been more high ceiling focused with Taco Charlton being a good example.
Mattison helped target other recruits, too, but I put it on Hoke and the rest of his assistant coaches who identified the targets. I would assume that Hecklinski would pick the WR recruits he wanted and have Mattison help target them, rather than Mattison pick WR recruits.
Both arguments can hold water: that Hoke picked high floor/low ceiling, and that Mattison is a good recruiter, has an eye for talent, and develops his players. I think that is why Mattison always gets a pass. That and 3 players in the NFL from last year alone.
Yeah, but don't pretend that there aren't different philosophies in recruiting. It isn't just a pure talent game. Coaches recruit kids that are going to fit their system, both mentally and physically. And Jim Harbaugh was working with the recruits of a different coach, who had different philosophies regarding the game. He is now, largely, working with kids that he hand picked to fit his team, not trying to shoe-horn very good football players recruited by Hoke into his system. The team is going to get significantly better as Harbaugh's recruits become Harbaugh's stars.
And apart from that, he is consistently pulling in classes that are, pure talent-wise, as good as or better than Hoke's miracle recruiting year. When we have 4.5* backups to replace injured starters, Michigan will be able to better weather the attrition that happens in a football season.
The cupboard wasn't bare when Harbaugh showed up, and he turned it into back to back 10 win seasons. The cupboard is getting packed with Harbaugh's elite talent, and he is the only college football coach they know. Michigan essentially beat Ohio State at home last season with a team stocked with talent that had a chunk of their developmental years wasted by Brady Hoke. As the team becomes more pure Harbaugh, it will consistently compete at the playoff level. Enjoy the ride.
The biggest advantage Michigan with Harbaugh will have over OSU will be the QB spot. Get the advantage at QB and that will neutralize OSU's advantage at other spots on the field. And we all know Don Brown could take a group of 11 MGoPosters and turn it into a top 5 defense. Combine elite QB play with elite defense and the wins over OSU will come.
Harbaugh had a major rebuilding task when he showed up. It's easy to forget 2014 and the losses to Maryland and Rutgers. But within the first year we had a moral victory against a Sparty team that had been dismantling us for years. He followed that up with a significantly better team that shut down State. After two years of rebuilding we got a moral victory AT Ohio State, and I am one of the few that trust Harbaugh enough to believe that he can keep improving the team, despite having lost a lot of players. We are now approaching a Harbaugh picked team that has only been developed by Harbaugh and his staff. The tide is turning. Enjoy the ride.
And Ohio State's recruiting will loom large for the next couple of seasons until Michigan has fully rebuilt things. Especially on the lines.
I have the utmost faith that Harbaugh et al will have our OL in top-15 shape within 3 years. Recruiting misses always sting, but I have yet to see a reason not to have faith that we are moving towards where we need to be to compete consistently at the national level.
Not 100% the same situation, but a lot of us thought the same things about Nolan Ulizio. Underrated, undersized tackle that would redshirt, bulk up and be an All-Conference performer after 2+ years in a college S&C program.
I thought for sure that this past spring we were going to see Nolan breakout as a redshirt sophomore, and show everyone why Harbaugh/Drevno took a chance on a "diamond-in-th-rough," but so far I haven't seen any peep from him on the depth charts.
As a Cincinnati native, I tend to try to root for the local guys.
I hadn't heard that anywhere really, I just saw that he didn't look all that impressive and was not in the mix for any of the tackle positions. I kind of thought Ulizio would be one of the first players to help shore up the depth issues when Newsome went down.
Double Post :(
Yeah maybe ask Clemson if they were afraid of Ohio's recruiting rankings. How about Alabama's? The point is if the Bucs get the #1 linebacker and weakside d-end and they are at #25 and #35 overall it doesn't matter. Michigan can get the #3 linebacker and weakside end with possibly better talent at overall numbers of #100 and #143. Do you follow me here? There could be 10 wide receivers in between those player's overall numbers messing everything all up. How in the hell are you going to go by that when you are mixing them all in a bunch? Overall recruiting rankings aren't the end all. Read these words and think about it for a second. Recruiting overall rankings are only just recruiting overall rankings. Let that simpleness sink in for a few seconds and grasp that. The #1 safety could be at overall spot of #200 with 15 quarterbacks ahead of him. Are you getting me? They look sexxy and and that's what Urbz wants. He's not a great-great talent observer. He just goes for the top ranked speed guys. That's it. They have had how many top and highly ranked classes now for how long and they aren't dominating everyone. It's not like the B1G has been that great as a whole competition wise.
That is some serious shade. I hope the kid has a chip on his shoulder and works twice as hard to prove that asshat wrong.
I'm with you in that I hope Comparoni's mouthing off lights an undying fire in the kid, and that he not only blows past projections but takes it out on Sparty in particular.
That being said, there have been several instances along the way when Comparoni wrote a detailed analysis like this about one of our high ceiling recruits, and was dead on. Blind-squirrel-finds-nut, sure ... but he was not wrong in calling out guys like Big Will and Sugar Shane as having significant flaws that meaningfully impeded their ability to transfer elite physical potential to on-field production.
Comparoni is certainly capable of allowing his Sparty Green goggles to blur his vision ... but (and I know this won't be a popular opinion) let's not pretend he's always wrong on such things. The easy thing to do is be dismissive of him because of the Sparty inferiority/bias. But history says that is not always the case.
I will just file this away as an interesting data point, no more, no less.