2017 Recruiting Class size - how do we go past 30?

Submitted by reddogrjw on

As discussed in the early enrollee thread, we had 26 in the 2016 class with 6 backdated to 2015

 

So we can back date 5 to 2016 and have 25 for 2017

 

How do we go over 30? Grey shirts?

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Mr Miggle

January 10th, 2017 at 3:06 PM ^

cousin, blueshirts. Blueshirts can be on scholarship and play right away. The difference between them and regular recruits is that they can't have been formally recruited: no official visits, no in-home visits from coaches, no LOI. They are basically free agents who show up in the fall.

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AZBlue

January 10th, 2017 at 3:18 PM ^

Blueshirts. I don't know if any of our likely targets would qualify within the rules, but any "late flyers" probably would for those last few spots. Would hate to have to gray-shirt a kid who has already committed. Side note - has anyone heard anything recently on the legacy 3* TE from Michigan that decomitted early in the process? (blanking on the name) Last I checked a few months back he was still not committed to a school - I wonder if he is a PWO possibility or if that ship has sailed.

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Mr Miggle

January 10th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^

Could be why his recruitment has been so quiet. I think we'd much prefer blueshirts over grayshirts. Another possibility could be a recruit with academic issues. If they qualify after LOI day, they could be added without risking a wasted spot on them if they missed. I don't know who fits in that category, maybe Bateman? 

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PutInPeters18

January 10th, 2017 at 3:11 PM ^

I'd imagine to get to 25 per class they'd be able to back date a few of the early enrollees.Not sure how that all works really, but I'd imagine the coaching staff already has that figured out. Doesn't seem like there are any greyshirts ahead but who knows.

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jalenwestman

January 10th, 2017 at 3:12 PM ^

to get to 30-32, but that certainly doesn't mean it will happen. Herbert is gone, Samuels might not get in, and you never know if someone is going to pull D-move Hamilton on us. Nico, Gay, Solomon are no where close to locks.

Adds look like Sebastian, Becton, and my off the radar 4-5 star Harbaugh special. My guess is the number is 28 and only gets to 30 if Nico, Gay or Solomon come. I think we should consider ourself blessed if we get one of those 3. So with back-dating 25 is not going to be an issue.

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Ihatebux

January 10th, 2017 at 3:42 PM ^

NCAA rule is only 25 can sign between signing day and May1st.  EE's only have to have room in the 85 player roster for Winter Term.  If members of the team graduate in December, they can be replaced by EEs and count toward last years limit.

It sounds like it helps if Seniors graduate early to allow more EEs.  

Basically, 25 + EEs (as long as there are only 85 on scholarship in Winter Term).

Need to get down to 85 by August. 

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OwenGoBlue

January 10th, 2017 at 3:47 PM ^

Above is the actual answer. We also have space for so many EEs because we have a lot of guys who won't be in school/on the roster as they get ready for the draft. Harbaugh really does cares about the classroom; he also cares about guys graduating in 3.5 years instead of 4 because that creates more recruiting roster flexibility. Hence the emphasis on it and record number of academic all B1G players this year.

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the fume

January 10th, 2017 at 4:15 PM ^

30 is the class limit for enrolling come fall, for the reasons you state.

However, you can oversign by 3 in the B1G, so they could sign up to 33. But 3 would not be able to be on scholly for fall 2017.

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Mr Miggle

January 10th, 2017 at 6:09 PM ^

According to Big Ten associate commissioner Chad Hawley, schools are allowed three over the 85-man limit, not the annual 25-man limit. If, for example, Michigan ends a season with 20 open scholarship spots, then Michigan may sign 23 players. No more.

If a Big Ten program chooses to oversign, Hawley said, it then must document exactly how it came under the 85-scholarship limit. 

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chatster

January 10th, 2017 at 5:34 PM ^

If, as some have speculated, (a) Kai-Leon Herbert de-commits, (b) O’Maury Samuels doesn’t qualify, and (c) Aubrey Solomon, Jay Tufele, Tedarrell Slaton, Nico Collins, and Willie Gay all go elsewhere, who are the five prospects who would have a reasonably good chance to be added to the recruiting Class of 2017 in order to get to 30?

Uncommitted OT Mekhi Becton? Boston College commit CB Brandon Sebastian? Uncommitted LB Ellis Brooks? Uncommitted WR Oliver Martin? Uncommitted DT Corey Bolds from Paramus (NJ) Catholic?  . . . ?

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