M-Dog

November 13th, 2015 at 4:19 PM ^

Q:  What's the difference between Rison's burned-down mansion and MSU's tire-fire recruiting class?
 
            A:  Only one of them can be rebuilt.
 

ST3

November 13th, 2015 at 5:17 PM ^

I read that last sentence as "eat your inner dork." But that also works. It's the metaphysical version of eat a bag of dicks. Sorry, I just watched Unfinished Business with Vince Vaughn last night. That movie pushed the absolute limits of the R rating.

alum96

November 13th, 2015 at 4:37 PM ^

First let me say I think there is 0 chance he leaves for SC job which has done in better coaches like Holtz and Spurrier.  Spurrier topped out around 10 wins.  He has zero southern roots at this point, he has been a Midwest coach for over 2 decades.  He'd be coaching in a division with 3 traditional powers in GA, UF, TN and be "4th best" just like someone taking over MSU would be in the East here.  Except he has done all the hard work at MSU whereas he'd be back starting from scratch at age 60 at SC trying to compete for 4th best.

But second let me say I think people here really underestimate how psychologically damaging it would be for Mike D'Antoni to leave MSU.  This is a fanbase and schools which needs to feel loved.  They yearn for it.  They demand it or its disrespekt.  If their own coach - the best they have had in 50 years - leaves them like this like a jilted lover at the altar, to take another job it would just stamp what we all say.  It's not a destination program nor an elite program.  Something MSU fans now believe.  Something Dantonio crowed about just last year.

The impact on their psychology, the disruption to recruiting, the disruption to coaching (Mork would take all his assistants but 1-2 I bet) would be epic.  But most important would be point 1 - the betrayal ... the feeling of "we are not good enough even for Mork".  It would be priceless I tell you.  Far more important and long lasting then Harbaugh going 3-0 next few years before Dantonio fades into oblivion and gets his statue built.

If Mork leaves MSU it would be a death blow to their fanbase.  You just have to truly understand how their people think to understand it.  They are some of the most insecure people on earth and this would be an incredibly debilitating blow that would last for decades mentally.

alum96

November 13th, 2015 at 5:12 PM ^

They are recruiting good enough at MSU. 

You named me 1 elite player at SC.  Name me 5-10 others anywhere near.

I just pulled up a few classes - here is national rank and SEC rank.  It's relative to SEC that matters.

  • 2014: 19 overall,  9 in SEC
  • 2013: 20 overall, 10 in SEC
  • 2012:17 overall, 7 in SEC

So they are not even finishing top 5 in the conf like he does in Big 10.

SC is not even the best school in the state for recruiting.  And loses players to GA and other SEC powers constantly.  It's all relative.

I never hear Dantonio talk about SC - he doesnt wax poetic like Jim did about Bo.   Dude spends more time pining about Ohio that SC.

If he was 53 maybe I'd get it to some degree but he is now basically an OH guy.

alum96

November 13th, 2015 at 5:15 PM ^

Yep and Saban was a mercenary.  Dantonio is a Michigan hater bred for 20 years since Tressel years to hate UM and lives for this rivalry.  His abandonment would be a 10 alarm fire.

Look I am rooting for it - I just don't see it.

And I want him to leave immediately rather than wait around 4 more years and keep MSU a good 9 win program.  The quicker they get to 3-5 wins like they used to do a lot when I grew up the better.  I am fine with Harbaugh destroying their JLS level coach 49-13.  

DreisbachToHayes

November 13th, 2015 at 3:54 PM ^

Anything substantial to the Dantonio to SC stuff besides just typical unsubstantiated rumors and guess work? Honestly I'm not trying to be Debbie-Downer or "that guy"... just wondering if I have missed something recently.