Thanks for the video, but next time put this on MGoBoard instead of Diaries.
this week in unintentionally grim-sounding recruiting headlines
This is the first video of Cornelius Jones I have come across so I figured I would put it on here. I have not posted on here before so I hope this works. If it does not work please let me know how to make it work I have a link to a video of Cornelius and he looks like a good prospect. You also have to consider that he has not been playing for a long time. I like his story and I will be rooting for him to make it at UM. I am a long time Michigan fan and I hope that we can turn things around this year. As my name states I am a Michigan fan living in Ohio. Although my entire family is buckeye fans I have never been. I am trying to make this long enough to make this meet the 200 word minimum. Only a few more words to go then hopefully this will work and I can post this link so you all that have not seen a video on this kid can then get your first look at him. He is kind of a mystery to most Michigan fans. I hope you like this video so here it goes. Enjoy. http://www.athletevault.com/Videos/CorneliusJonesAV.html
Thanks for the video, but next time put this on MGoBoard instead of Diaries.
I agree this is better suited for MGoBoard, but I think the problem is that he's a new poster, and hasn't accumulated the necessary 20 points to post on MGoBoard. Apparently that limit does not extend to the diaries. I’m not sure why (not that it was inappropriate to post this, ime).
It's easy to see why this is one of the first kids Coach Rod offered. You can tell he's raw as a passer (his release takes a little longer than ideal as he "loads up" the ball before releasing, but that can be coached), and as a rusher (frequently has the ball in the non-sideline hand), but he's got the talent for sure. He throws a surprisingly tight spiral, and has great arm strength to throw on the run. I have heard his short range accuracy has something to be desired, but the ceiling on this kid is high. Should provide some excellent competition for our QB's in 2010. We are now officially stacked with talent for the future at QB with Gardner, C. Jones and Forcier (I'll include D. Robinson on this list as well, though it's likely he'll be moved around a bit).
I am pleased with RR's eye for talent. If you look at our 2008 and 2009 class, it appears that most of our 3 stars are, or are going to be, 4 star level talent. Have faith, my friends; RR knows what he's doing. A winning season will silence the critics.
Thanks for the link, btw. I like what I see.
I like your break down of his quarterback abilities. You should do a critique of denards and gardners videos. I am definitely not one to even try to figure out what a good through versus a bad through looks like nor what proper arm motion should look like.
Good video, thanks for finding and posting this.
For those at work who may not be able to watch at the moment. The video is mostly him running - some by design apparently others when things break down. There are some pretty nicely thrown passes in there as well though.
Considering he is still raw at QB, I would say Rich Rod did a nice job finding this kid. Looks like he has a lot of potential.
He's really good athlete, I can definitely see him playing somewhere should the QB situation not work out. Along with the things he has to work on, I'm fairly impressed, hopefully he'll improve some before he gets here.
Thanks for the vid.
He's got almost slot receiver like open field skills and cutting ability, he just lacks that burst to separate from the defense (and the blocking from his teammates)
Thanks for the video.
Jones looks better than I expected. He's more decisive than I thought he would be, and it really doesn't look like he missed a couple years of playing football. He seems to be in good command of the offense.
I'd say he's a better quarterback prospect than Denard Robinson. I've never been too impressed with Robinson's QB skills. I think he'll spend a year or probably two at QB just for depth reasons, but I'm hoping he can contribute elsewhere.
It's impossible to project these things with any real degree of surety, but I think in a couple of years we'll be seeing Denard at another position.
better than I expected. Thanks for the video.
He looks good! He's definitely got the tools. I did see him throw up a couple that were almost certainly interceptions in the Big 10, but only a couple, and I think most QB's do that in high school. He seemed to make a couple of reads and adjustments, throwing to second or third options once or twice, so that's good. I still think Tate will be our starter till this kid would be entering his Senior year (or Junior if he redshirts), so he may not get much chance, but I like him.
I would guess that chances are strong that Jones redshirts. Esp with Gardner coming in the same class.
Scout has him listed at 6'2 185 lbs. The coaches would probably like to see him get up around the 200 lb range before throwing him out there (much like they apparently want Tate to be).
Additionally, he likely needs to work on mechanics and other issues considering he was out of football for a few years from the sound of it. That being said, he has a lot of potential. But it would be nice to have get a couple of years of learning before being tossed out onto the field.
He looks impressive. I wonder how good the competition is in South Carolina. Just curious.
Well, the competition across the conference included Marcus Lattimore, Corey Miller and Brandon Willis. You may have heard of them.
Well done! Granted all of these recruiting videos are selected samples, but he looks elusive with the ball.
Remember how folks were surprised/peeved that we offered him?
That criticism surely seems warranted now....
We should offer WR #7.
seconded thats what i was thinking watch the video. He made some acrobatic catches and then burned the defenses for 6. Someone get the scoop on this kid. Just the same Jones looks strides better than I thought he would.
I can't validate ANYTHING, but if that's their leading receiver from last year, then that'd be Jordan Kollock. That HS sports division has CRAP for stats, so I really couldn't tell you for sure if it's him, and if it is, I can't find him on any recruiting sites.
Anyhow, making the assumption that it is him:
Last season, he had 17 Receptions for 236 yards in 7 games. It lists no touchdowns, but it shows no touchdowns for anyone, so their stats are obviously quite incomplete. Even so, for a heavy running school like Spartanburg, that's not bad. His biggest game was the last of the season, 4 receptions for 92 yards.
His name is Desmod Gentry and according to max prep he had like 35 rec for some 500 yrds. I looked it up on the schools records and he just graduated. I didn't go any furture because I thought I was being creepy enough.
Edit: doesn't look like he's playing D-I anywhere.
I was thinking about this last night....Jones is relatively unknown at this point but if he has a big season...would it be possible that he decommits and ends up at a school where he would get a better possibility of playing time at QB?
At Michigan he would come in probably 4th on the depth chart behind Tate, Denard, Devin.... but surely if he has a big year he will get more offers from other schools with perhaps more of an immediate need at QB that he could fill...
just a possibilty hopefully wont happen...
also I dont know if this is true but I found some stats on him from last year and they said he threw 1TD pass and 11INT. Perhaps that is why there are not any TD passes on his video...
thanks for posting it
Possible? Sure. Any kid can decommit before signing the LOI.
That said, a kid that's been through what Jones has probably appreciates the early faith Michigan showed and would put trust and academics ahead of playing time.
Of course that is possible, but consider that so many Michigan fans are, to say the least, skeptical about the current recruiting class, which features a bevy of three-star players.
So: fans either complain that Michigan has too many lower-rated recruits, or fans fret that said lower-rated recruits will have big seasons and de-commit when they become more widely known.
I just find it interesting that people want our recruits to have big seasons to justify their recruitment but also worry about subsequent de-commits. Maybe there is just no helping it.
The kid loves Michigan more than most recruits. It's obviously possible that he'll go elsewhere if he has a big season and gets more offers, but he's made for THIS offense (in my opinion). There aren't many big-time schools who run offenses like Rodriguez's, where the QB is such an important cog as a runner.
dilemna of either wanting under the radar low rated players or getting higher rated players that may decommit and go elsewhere. Playing time works out for UM now but the ultimate goal is to have enough depth where you merely tell recruits the best players play and you will play when you earn it, regardless of depth...
Well, he certainly has some wheels, and can hit an OPEN reciever every time the editor saves the play. That is about all the video shows. I am certain RR has seen quite a bit more. This kid could be exciting. At the very least he will keep some heat on Gardner.
Can't comment on the commit/decommit thang. Whofreakinknows?
feel a few years under Barwis and in this system he can be pleasant surprise.
thats not what im saying, i hope he does have a big year and am not worried about him decommitting...
HA!!! More ninjas. Now does anyone know anything about Justin Turner?
You just had to throw in that bit about Turner? You'll know when we know.
No he won't. We're all keeping it from him on purpose.
Sorry, I was slow checking my e-mail and just got the e-mail about his status. Good thing I read the PS or I would have posted it on this site. Close call haha. Phew!
I really like Jones
No one seems to block for him
Yet he still gets yards
As a FB coach (quarterbacks specifically) I have to disagree with some of the replies in this thread. This kid is not a quarterback. His mechanics are awful, he does not have the "zip" on the ball needed, his rotation is not good, his accuracy is poor, and his decision making leaves much to be desired. I'm not trying to bash the kid, I'm just saying he is not a D1 quarterback. IMO he has Safety written all over him and is athletic enough to turn into a good one with his size.
Thanks Debbie Downer.
Wow, you got all of that from one low resolution highlight tape? You, sir, are quite the judge of talent
coach, doesn't mean you are any good.
This could be said about anything.
Just because someone's a lawyer doesn't mean they're a good lawyer; yet I'm sure every lawyer knows more than me about lawyering.
Just because someone's a pilot doesn't mean he's a good pilot; yet I'm sure every pilot knows more than me about flying.
I don't know what you do, and I don't know what CoachW's credentials are. However, if he has a job as a coach and you don't, he probably knows more than you. Therefore, it's kind of pointless to say what you said.
With all due respect, I disagree with your lawyer/fb coach analogy, Magnus. I'm not saying the previous poster was or was not right about Jones, it is just my opinion that a knowledgeable, avid fan in the mold of a brian or a magnus is probably only marginally less qualified to evaluate a player's skill set, particularly as it applies to RRod's offense, than a pop warner, JV, or even than some lower division HS coach.
Basically, I'd make a better FB coach than I would a lawyer or a pilot. : )
a) It still didn't need to be said. It serves no purpose. You could say that about anyone's profession. "Just because you're a professional bowler doesn't mean you're any good. Just because you're a professional accountant doesn't mean you're any good."
b) I am a coach. (I know, I know...that doesn't mean I'm any good at it...)
just because you can type things on your computer doesn't mean you should
While I agree the mechanics are not good and his accuracy is so-so, he did show some arm strength and is dangerous running the ball. From that tape alone and knowing his playing experience is limited, I don't think we can make a decent judgement on his decision making ability. He wouldn't see the field until possibly his red-shirt jr year, so he will have plenty of time to improve. Project? Yes. Some upside? Definitely.
I find it interesting that you completely tear him apart as a QB, and then you suggest that he could be a good safety - even though you've never seen him play a down of defense (I'm assuming, unless you've watched him play in person).
The video you looked at was video from his first year playing high school football. That means he has a lot to learn, but it also means that he probably hasn't begun to tap his potential.
I can roll with the idea that he was very young and hasn't begun to tap his potential. The safety suggestion was based on his build and obvious athleticism. He could be a horrible safety (hello Steve Brown) but he has the basic desirables of safety.
I disagree completely with your assessment of him as a QB. I was unable to get this link to work, but I watched the rivals video of his Jr. year and I'm more impressed with his throwing ability than I am with Gardner's. Gardner is a much better playmaker in comparison to Jones, who seems to hesitate a little too much and absorb the big hits instead of avoiding them, but I think that Jones has pretty good throwing mechanics for a guy who has only played a few years of football.
They're the same video, so you've seen what he's seen.
In that case, I would be very interested to hear the coach's opinions on the throwing motion of Gardner, especially in comparison to Jones'.
I haven't heard a peep from him while the rest of us have been fellating Gardner, so I can only assume he thinks Gardner is perfect.
No I don't think Gardner is perfect. Far from it. But I do see much more potential from him as a QB than I do for Jones. They both will need plenty of work.