[Patrick Barron]

Upon Further Review 2023: Offense vs MSU Comment Count

Brian November 2nd, 2023 at 12:11 PM

FORMATION NOTES: MSU was a very basic 4-3 even, as they have been forever.

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Aside from pass rush exotics, this was the whole game. They would occasionally slide the line to the run strength, and they'd put a nickel on the field for passing downs. They ran a lot of the Dantonio-vintage double-A gap twist blitz from the linebackers; this was about their only gambit on the day.

SUBSTITUTION NOTES: Nothing unusual. WR/TE snaps, as per usual:

  • Cornelius Johnson: 50
  • Roman Wilson: 43
  • Colston Loveland & AJ Barner: 37
  • Tyler Morris: 35
  • Semaj Morgan: 21
  • Max Bredeson: 9.

Morris and Morgan both got a bunch of snaps in Tuttle time. This was a bit of deviation from recent games, where Barner was your #1 snap recipient; my assumption is that Michigan felt like MSU's LB crew was vulnerable to approximately everything when passing and leaned slightly more towards three-wide sets. Only slightly, because Harbaugh.

[After THE JUMP: a beatdown]

Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M16 1 10 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel over 5.5 Run Crack sweep Corum 7
Barner(+0.5) motions in and cracks the playside end; Henderson(+1) pulls around this and gets out quickly. Morris(+1) cuts off Haladay. Keegan(-1) can’t get any control of the playside DT and he’s able to flow down the line more or less unmolested; he grabs Corum as Corum cuts inside the Henderson block. RPS +1.
M23 2 3 Gun 4-wide 1 2 2 Nickel even 6 Pass Dumpoff Corum 10
Solid protection; no idea about anything downfield; JJ checks down to an open Corum. (CA, 3, protection 2/2 JJ +0.5)
M33 1 10 Gun twins 1 2 2 4-3 even 8 Run Pin and pull Corum 1
Second straight week a TE running into the flat draws no coverage; this time JJ is in the gun so he should be able to see it, but if he’s reading someone it looks like a LB. Henderson and Keegan move to scoop a DT and succeed but no one blocks the DE and he rips down the line. Corum(+0.5) is able to avoid a TFL by cutting behind him. I have to assume this is live. (RPO-, JJ -2). Zinter(-2) gets shed and dumped to the ground by a DT so this isn’t going anywhere anyway; Keegan(+1) and Henderson(+1) did do a good job of scooping the other DT; Barner(+0.5) and Barnhart get solid blocks.
M34 2 9 Gun quads 1 1 3 4-3 even 6.5 Penalty False start Corum -5
Corum -1.
M34 2 14 Gun 3-wide 1 2 2 Nickel over 6.5 Pass Slot fade Wilson Inc
Cover one look from MSU and they run it, bold. JJ immediately knows he’s going slot fade and Wilson runs by Grose; the ball is not perfect but it’s pretty good; Wilson takes early contact that is PI but not called (refs -2) and Wilson can only use one hand to stab at it. Wilson is almost able to bring it in, but not quite. (CA, 1, protection 1/1, JJ +0.5)
M34 3 14 Gun trips 1 2 2 Exotic 5 Pass Improv Barner 16
Four man rush; line gives JJ absolutely forever. Four of these routes are not going to convert and JJ would like to convert. His timer goes off and he moves outside the pocket; Barner mirrors him and gets depth; JJ fires in a laser that Barner leaps to grab, taking a big hit as he does so. (DO, 2, protection 3/3, JJ +2)
50 1 10 Gun twins 1 2 2 4-3 even 7 Pass PA rollout hitch Johnson 11
PA, short roll for JJ as M high-lows a zone corner. He turns his hips to go deep and JJ fires off the short route; Johnson(+1) is able to dodge a tackle and extend this past the sticks. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, JJ +0.5, RPS +1)
O39 1 10 Pistol 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 over 6 Run Duo? Corum 4
Double A gap twist from MSU so no doubles possible, but I assume it was supposed to be duo. Nugent(+1) and Zinter(+1) pick up the blitzers; Nugent gives ground, as he must due to the laws of physics, and Corum gets caught up on him a bit, slowing him. Barner(-0.5) gets a kickout but is stalemated and quickly shed to the interior; Barnhart(+1) wins one on one with a DT and turns him inside; Corum burrows behind him as the kickout guy collapses from the side and DBs rally. RPS -1; this blitz did do enough to disrupt the play and it took three very good blocks to get four yards.
O35 2 6 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over 6.5 Run Power GT Corum 2
Orbit motion from Morris takes a LB out of the box. DE forms up, give (ZR+, JJ +0.5). Henderson(+1) turns his guy in and gets a yard of movement. Zinter(+0.5) gets a kickout. Barnhart(-2) is way too flat and ends up just running by Haladay; Corum gets nailed.
O33 3 4 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 5.5 Pass Drag Wilson 25
Corner on Johnson has to go vertical as Johnson runs a fly, and then Wilson runs a drag under it. Nearest player: Haladay. In a word: no. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +0.5, RPS +2)
O8 1 G Gun twins FB 1 2 2 4-3 over 7.5 Run Iso Corum 3
Doesn’t work out like planned as DT fires Keegan(-0.5) back into the intended lane. Keegan is able to anchor and fend the guy off, avoiding the -1; Nugent(+0.5) and Zinter(+1) double through the other DT with Zinter driving him downfield; Corum is able to pick his way behind that for a decent gain.
O5 2 G Gun TTB 1 2 2 4-3 even 9 Run Duo Corum 5
Passive from MSU by alignment. They twist the DTs; Nugent(+1) hits the slanter and then comes off on the looper; Zinter(+1) picks up the slanter and drives him a couple yards downfield. Barnhart(+0.5) and Barner(+0.5) double an end and put him at the one; Corum(+0.5) regaps to the back of the line here and burrows.
O1 3 G Goal line 1 4* 0 Goal line 11 Run Iso Corum 1
Inches here. Henderson(+0.5) and Keegan(+0.5) bury a DT and Bredeson runs into the gap; Corum follows.
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 7-0, 8 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M49 1 10 Pistol twins 1 2 2 4-3 over 7 Pass PA hitch Barner 15
PA with a pulling G pulls Haladay almost to the LOS, opening up the Barner hitch; JJ hitches up a couple of times and almost lets the LB rally to the ball; it’s just past his fingers and Barner brings in a tough one. (MA, 2, protection 2/2, RPS +1, JJ -0.5). Deviating from results based charting slightly because this should have been an easy pitch and catch.
O36 1 10 Ace trip TE 1 3 1 4-3 even 8 Run Windback Edwards -4
Playside LB does not bite on duo look, hangs back, fires up at Edwards for a TFL. This is why windback is a constraint. RPS -3.
O40 2 14 Gun TTB 1 1 3 4-3 even 7 Pass TE delay Barner 1
Coverage does not lift and Brule is just seven yards away from the LOS when this throw gets out. I’m not sure if this is even a read for JJ since every other TE delay they’ve run in the last two years has been the delay. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ push, RPS -2). If you want to put this on JJ for not looking else where I get it.
O39 3 13 Gun trips 1 1 3 Exotic 6 Pass Flare screen Edwards 14
DB over the slot charges into Wilson and Wilson(-1) gets blasted back. To do this the MSU dude had to get off balance and remains off balance; Edwards(+1) shimmies and just hits it hard; DB falls to the ground uselessly as Wilson hops out of the way. Morris(+1) and Loveland(+0.5) got the other blocks and Edwards is barely arm tackled by the last man. (CA, 3, screen, JJ push)
O25 1 10 Gun trips 1 2 2 4-3 even 5.5 Pass Improv Wilson 25
Barnhart(-1) and Zinter(-1) fail to pick up a stunt; looper is in clean. JJ dodges that guy and then loads up a deep over that Wilson is running into the endzone; perfect. (DO+, 3, protection 0/2, JJ +2)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 14-0, 2 min 1st Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M34 1 10 I-Form 1 2 2 4-3 even 7 Run TE power Corum 2
M blocks down with the whole line and pulls the TEs for a power run. Keegan(+1) washes his guy down the line a long distance; Henderson(+1) erases the backside LB. S adds to box; Johnson is supposed to crack him and does but he’s making contact a yard in the backfield. Barner(+0.5) has a difficult job with a DE playing this to spill; he turns the guy in and gives Corum the outside but he too is in the backfield a significant distance. Corum bounces and gets the corner, who he’s unable to shake. RPS –1.
M36 2 8 Gun 4-wide tight 1 2 2 4-3 even 7 Pass Dumpoff Corum Inc
Field side guys are both covered as LBs get to ten yards of depth; JJ decides to check down; reasonable, but he wings it high and it goes off Corum’s fingertips. (IN, 1, protection 2/2, JJ -1)
M36 3 8 Gun trips 1 1 3 Exotic 5 Pass TE hitch Loveland 15
Protection excellent; JJ initially pumps as it looks like M is trying to get a CB to bite on a deep out and then hit Morris on a double move; covered. JJ comes off of it and starts climbing the pocket as Henderson’s guy eventually starts to come through. LB in the middle of the field starts chasing a Johnson drag, opening up Loveland for the conversion. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +1)
O49 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 over 7 Run Power Corum 5
Zinter(+0.5) and Barnhart double through a DT, who moves but not a ton. Keegan(+1) pulls and shoots through the POA, eventually putting his LB on the ground. Barner(+1) does the same thing to his single block; Morris(push) has to block down on a LB type who moved down to an awkward spot. Corum(+0.5) cuts into this; the combo of Corum and Morris pushing moves the LB and the two +1 blocks means immediate assistance is not forthcoming, so Corum grinds out five.
O44 2 5 Gun TTB 1 2 2 4-3 even 7.5 Run Belly Corum 5
Backside LB blitzes but checks JJ and then slips. Barner(+0.5) washes a guy down the line; looks like that guy may hold Henderson to prevent him from releasing to the MLB. Hard to tell but Henderson’s actions here are weird. Loveland(+0.5) gets a second level block and Corum(+0.5) grinds it out some more.
O39 1 10 Gun TTB 1 1 3 4-3 over 7 Pass Dig Wilson Inc
PA, no sale for the LBs. They all get ten yards of depth. JJ says screw it and uncorks a laser that is about 1-2 yards from a bad ass DO, but it’s behind Wilson by a yard or so. (IN, 0, protection 2/2, JJ -0.5)
O39 2 10 Gun 4-wide 1 2 2 4-3 over 7 Pass Hitch Barner 11
Double A gap picked up and both CBs are creeping back to cover 3 presnap, not sure if JJ sees this out of the corner of his eye but the decision on a hitch to Barner is quick. Ball gets there fast, too, and Barner has 3-4 yards of separation between himself and the defenders. Barner(+0.5) is able to grind out a first down. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, JJ +1)
O28 1 10 Gun TTE 1 2 2 Nickel even 6.5 Run Crack sweep Edwards 9
Loveland(+0.5) cracks the DE; Barnhart(+1) pulls around and eliminates Haladay; Barner(-0.5) contacts a CB but doesn’t control him and gets shed; Nugent(+1) is quick to the second level and wipes the other LB. Edwards is about to go one on one with the S when Barner’s guy grabs him. RPS +1.
O19 2 1 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even 7 Run Split duo Corum 5
Scrape exchange from MSU; DE does not attack sufficiently; he is able to burrow under Loveland but extends to take contact instead of trying to tackle, Hat -1. Zinter(+0.5) and Barnhart(+0.5) double a DT and get enough of him to provide a lane. Nugent(+1) erases a LB; Corum bangs into Barnhart as he’s about to release and Haladay fills from the side after initially checking JJ.
O14 1 10 Gun TTE 1 2 2 4-3 over 7.5 Pass Sack N/A -8
M stacks the twin WRs and floods the outside; Wilson is open on a corner route by JJ does not throw it. Timer goes off and he tries to make something out of nothing; Brule chases him and JJ should just chuck the ball out of bounds, flip, style, but tries to reverse field and gets sacked. (TAX, N/A, protection 2/2, JJ -2)
O22 2 18 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 5.5 Pass TE seam Loveland 22
MSU jumps; free play. Loveland drives at Grose; Grose opens his hips, turning to the inside of the field. Loveland extends outside a step or two and then gets his head around. Grose decides to flip his hips, turning towards the endzone to maintain speed, and by the time he is once again facing Loveland, it’s too late. (DO, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +2, Loveland route +)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 21-0, 11 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M21 1 10 Pistol FB trips 2 1 2 4-3 over 7 Run Power GT Corum 5
M motions into a set with all three guys in the trips on the LOS, then flares out Edwards; Brule goes with him and that appears to equal handoff. DE checks JJ so hats for hats. Other DE is trying to spill; Keegan(+1) blows him out of there. Barnhart(-1) whiffs on his chip and the DT does not get adequately dealt with. Corum(+0.5) feints outside and sucks a LB out, then tries to hit the gap. DE checking JJ can recover in time now and the DT is able to slow Corum as he fights playside of Zinter.
M26 2 5 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Run Split zone Edwards 4
LBs blitz; Zinter(+1) fires a slanting DE way across the line. Unfortunately Nugent trips on the DE’s feet as he doesn’t get out to the LB fast, instead choosing to let the guy come to him. Barnhart(+0.5) IDs the blitz and harasses a LB. Edwards hits the gap Zinter created, Brule hops on him but is flat-footed a yard downfield.
M30 3 1 Gun twins 1 2 2 4-3 over 8 Run Zone keeper McCarthy 0
This seems like a massively biffed read to the point where I wonder if Wilson screwed up. He pulls across the formation to be come the split blocker and actually hammers a DE who’s charging inside; JJ pulls and is 2 v 1 on the edge, he cuts back but can only get back to the LOS. This makes more sense if Wilson is supposed to arc here. Handoff looks like an easy conversion. Wilson –2? I think so. I'm punting on grading JJ here.
Drive Notes: Punt, 21-0, 8 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
O48 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over 6 Pass TE hitch Barner 7
MSU tips their double A blitz presnap; JJ gets out a hot route to Barner. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +0.5, RPS +1)
O41 2 3 Gun twins 1 2 2 Nickel over 7 Run Duo Corum 2
Keegan(+0.5) gets some push on a DT by himself; Loveland(-0.5) can’t cut off the backside DE, who narrows the gap and gets in an ankle tackle attempt. Nugent is never going to have an angle on the LB after releasing if the play hits over to the left unless said LB jams his face into the line; no such luck. This is 2.5 yards so a successful run in the circumstances.
O39 3 1 Gun TTE 1 2 2 4-3 over 8.5 Run Dive Corum 2
Nugent(+0.5 ) and Zinter(+0.5) stall out an attempted dive at the legs and Barner(+1) clears out a DE for the room.
O37 1 10 Pistol 4-wide tight 1 2 2 4-3 over 7 Run Crack sweep Edwards -2
Barner(+0.5) gets his crack block on the end but mirrors the guy as he goes up field a bit and Henderson has to step around this. Johnson(-2) checks on the playside LB and then goes to the safety; this is leaving the more dangerous player. Edwards(-2) has a fair bit of space here in which he can put his foot in the ground and get vertical as Haladay tries to chase him inside out; he never does. I wonder about Keegan here; seems to release too vertical.
O39 2 12 Gun TTE 1 2 2 4-3 even SAM 8 Pass Scramble McCarthy 17
Zinter(-2) doesn’t read the blitz and lets looper through free. JJ(+1 run) breaks that tackle and breaks the pocket. He should dump it to Edwards in space for a bigger gain but instead decides to run it; since this is an easy first down we’ll call it good. (SCR, N/A, protection 0/2)
O22 1 10 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Run Duo Edwards 0
M eats the double A gap this time; Henderson and Keegan are doubling a DT and Nugent has both guys himself. Nugent(+1) does an admirable job to hit one and then come off on the other; Keegan(-2) never sees it and does not slide over to pick up the first guy Nugent delayed. TFL. RPS -2.
O22 2 10 Gun 3-wide 1 2 2 Nickel over 6.5 Pass TE seam Loveland 22
Barner motion pulls Grose wider and puts Loveland in a seam matchup against Haladay trying to drop into a zone. Haladay turns his back and goes choo choo as fast as he can, and JJ just flings it past his earhole for a TD. (DO, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +3)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 28-0, 3 min 2nd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M20 1 10 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Hitch Johnson 8
CB goes into bail technique; CJ breaks his route off, immediate hit, out of bounds. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, JJ +0.5).
M28 2 2 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Dumpoff Edwards 3
JJ appears to get through three reads here and then hesitates; he doesn’t get to Morris wide open on a hitch; instead he checks it down to Edwards. Sticks move, clock stops, at least, (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ push)
M31 1 10 Gun 4-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over 6 Pass Fade Morris Inc
1:16 on snap. Dropback, Morris runs right by a CB, who falls; JJ puts it on a line and misses high. Historically the JJ deep ball problem: he doesn’t put enough air under it. DB didn’t fall until the ball was in the air, FWIW. (IN, 1, protection 2/2, JJ -1)
M31 2 10 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 5.5 Pass TE flat Barner 11
Barner(+1) grabs a five yard pass and then stiffarms a DB to the ground, spins off that tackle, and gets the first down. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, JJ +0.5)
M42 1 10 Gun 4-wide 1 1 3 Exotic 5 Pass Post Morris Inc
OMG I want this to be Edwards on an angle route against Haladay; instead JJ loads up and, uh, nails Morris 25 yards downfield; Morris drops it. (DO, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +2)
M42 2 10 Gun 4-wide 1 1 3 Exotic 5 Pass Out Barner Inc
Throw is fine, but Barner is a TE and he’s got a DB on him and that guy makes a nice play to anticipate the route and PBU it. I don’t love this decision as he’s got Wilson and Edwards available but Henderson(-1) does get shot backwards by the DT on a twist and JJ is getting pressure. (MA, 0, protection ½, JJ push)
M42 3 10 Gun trips 1 1 3 Exotic 6 Pass Dig Loveland 20
Loveland releases as if he’s going to hit the seam and then stops and rips inside a DB with inside leverage; ball game. JJ fires it in. Protection a little dodgy as a looping 9 tech gets some pressure but Keegan hits him and this took a long time. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +1, Loveland route+)
O38 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Run Inside zone Edwards 6
Wide splits here from the DTs and M could really hit this but does not as Zinter(-1) does not meaningfully chip one of those DTs; he’s able to burrow in against Barnhart and force Edwards to cut back. Edwards(+0.5) cuts back inside and almost makes Haladay miss but not quite. Keegan(+0.5) turned out the other DT with help from Nugent. Loveland(+0.5) got a kickout. M takes TO after.
O32 2 4 Gun trips 1 1 3 Exotic 5 Pass Pivot Barner 23
This is wild, as Barner(route+) gets one on one coverage with a CB and beats him on the pivot so badly that he gets 15(!) YAC. This guy isn’t good but still. (CA, 3, protection 2/2, JJ +0.5)
O10 1 G Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Dumpoff Edwards 6
26 on snap. JJ checks down to Edwards. (CA, 3, protection 1/1, JJ +0.5)
O4 2 G Gun 4-wide tight 1 1 3 ??? 11 Pass TE out Barner 4 (Pen -5)
Barner immediately into the flat, throw, TD. (CA, 3, protection N/A, JJ +0.5, RPS +1). Edwards resetting for no reason blows it all up. Edwards -1.
Drive Notes: EOH, 28-0
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M35 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel over 6 Run Counter Corum 12 + 30 pen
Counter step gets Haladay stepping the wrong way, RPS +1; Zinter(+1) pulls and neutralizes an end trying to shoot inside of him; Barner(+1) fires in Brule, who did not hold the edge. Easy bounce for Corum, who gets a first down, then gets a late hit. Also: illegal hands to the face. Hat -4. Henderson(+0.5) got enough of Haladay after the false step and Johnson(+0.5) cracked a safety.
O23 1 10 Gun trips TE 1 2 2 4-3 even 7.5 Run Split zone Corum 1 +11 pen
DE flies outside of Barner; Barner passes him up and Bredeson(+0.5) kicks him. DT also hops outside a gap; Henderson(-1) can’t do much with this and lets him occupy the outside gap; then he leaves. Keegan(-1) blasted back by a LB blitz and Corum can’t cut away from the DT so he gets tackled for a minimal gain… by the facemask. (RPS -1, Hat -2)
O11 1 10 Gun TTB 1 3 1 4-3 even 8.5 Pass Waggle cross Barner 11
PA, waggle, big bites, JJ lays it in. (CA, 3, protection N/A, JJ +0.5, RPS +2)
Drive Notes: Touchdown, 42-0, 6 min 3rd Q. Tuttle time ensues with full backups minus some WR snaps.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M14 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even 7 Run Power Hall 0
WLB is flared out over the slot a bit ; Hinton(-1) has to know that he needs to climb to the MLB. He’s probably not going to make it because of LB flowing fast but this play has no shot as soon as he chips a guy and extends to the WLB. El-Hadi(+0.5) gets a decent controlling block on a DE and Beetham(-1) gets confused as he’s got two guys to block and blocks neither. Hall does well not to get TFLed. RPS is off, but RPS.
M14 2 10 Gun 4-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Hitch Johnson 7
Quick pitch and catch against press; ball is a bit off and takes CJ off his feet. (MA, 3, protection 1/1, Tuttle -0.5)
M21 3 3 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Drag? Johnson? Inc
El-Hadi(-2) beat more or less clean up the gut and Tuttle’s pass is deflected about an instant after it leaves his hand. This could be to Johnson (bad idea) or Beetham (good idea). (PR, 0, protection 0/2)
Drive Notes: Punt, 42-0, 4 min 3rd Q.
Ln Dn Ds O Form RB TE WR D Form Box Type Play Player Yards
M10 1 10 Gun trips TE 1 2 2 4-3 even 6.5 Run Split duo Hall 3
Both doubles are pretty meh, getting some depth but just a yard and providing no obvious lane; Jones(+1) does get a good one on one kickout on a DE that moves him. Hall runs up the back of the doubles for 3.
M13 2 7 Gun quads? 1 1 3 ??? ? Pass Bubble screen Morgan 18
MSU has his dead to rights with Morris(-1) and Clemons(-1) whiffing blocks on DBs who are crashing the play (RPS -1); Morgan(+2) dodges the interior tackler to prevent a loss, then breaks a Haladay tackle as he reverses field; Hall picks up one of those I’m Not Getting A 15 Yard Penalty Blocks to spring him for the first down. (CA, 3, screen)
M31 1 10 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even SAM 7 Run Split duo Hall 4
Persi(-2) wants to double a DT who hops outside for Hinton(+0.5) to kick out; he whiffs on a LB who is looping inside of this. Hall has to cut away. El-Hadi(+1) fires in a guy mostly by himself; Jones(-1) doesn’t pick up another looper; Crippen(+0.5) leaves said looper to get the MLB. Hall(+0.5) grinds out a couple YAC.
M35 2 6 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 4-3 even SAM 7 Pass Dig Morgan 24
Whole underneath level chases a drag so this is just Morgan one on one with a guy with outside leverage and he wins that easily; Tuttle puts it on him, mostly, slightly behind; Morgan makes the catch, breaks a tackle(+1) and then gets lit up by the safety. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
O41 1 10 Gun trips TE 1 1 3 4-3 even 7 Pass Bubble screen RPO Morgan 0 (Pen -15)
PNP the other way; El-Hadi gets an unfortunate tripping penalty as the DT dodges his cut block and El-Hadi inadvertently sticks a foot up as he flips on the ground. I’m not going to ding this since I don’t think it’s relevant to projections for next year. Morris(-2) on the other hand gets blown up and run through; this is open as long as Morgan can pop outside but the block here is so bad it’s like it doesn’t exist.
M44 1 25 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Run Split zone Franklin 5 (Pen -10)
MSU doesn’t set an edge and Franklin pops outside; MSU has a safety sitting at 11 yards who fires on the run action and cuts Franklin down after a moderate gain. Corum and Edwards go nuts with this. Persi(-0.5) controlled and gives up a yard of depth; Beetham(-1) is the guy who gets the edge, but gets called for a hold; Hinton(+0.5) gets a second level block.
M34 1 35 Gun 3-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even 6 Pass Wheel-stop Klein 8
Klein sits down at about five yards and Tuttle hits him; this should be more but Klein(-0.5) just kind of falls down, losing 2-3 YAC. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
M42 2 27 Gun 4-wide 1 1 3 Nickel even 5.5 Pass Dumpoff Franklin 6
Checkdown; Franklin lit up immediately. (CA, 3, protection 2/2)
M48 3 21 Gun trips 1 1 3 Nickel even 4 Pass Scramble Tuttle 2 – 15 pen
Tuttle gets happy feet in a clean pocket and bugs out for a minimal gain. (TA, N/A, protection 2/2, Tuttle -1) Dunlap gets a late hit call that doesn’t happen if this isn’t 42-0.
Drive Notes: Punt, 42-0, 10 min 4th Q. Last two drives not charted. Here’s the Orji near-TD, and the Orij TD.

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Can Michigan win the national championsh…

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I may be a puppet, but I have self-respect. I do not have to pretend that I hold the view "JJ McCarthy is a game manager" just because GoBerks69420 said so on The O-Zone.

A person who is paid to talk about college football said that.

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Can Michigan win the national championship with a… game manager at quarterback?

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I'm not a ro—

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Silence! First we will set out to define a game manager! A game manager is a quarterback who plays for a team with a great running game and great defense. His job is to check into the right plays, hand the ball off most of the time, complete a reasonable number of passes, and never ever turn the ball over. In pursuit of this he just dumps the ball out of bounds whenever it's not there or he gets pressure. He is fine because he gets protection and has some good receivers but he rarely, if ever, does anything big time.

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Silence! Now we will dump all the relevant PFF stats into a list! JJ McCarthy is:

  • 7th nationally in Big Time Throw rate, out of 155 qualifying QBs with at least 100 attempts.
  • 3rd in yards per attempt.
  • 3rd in yards per attempt when pressured.
  • 4th in completion percentage when pressured.
  • 1st in Big Time Throw rate when pressured.
  • 2nd in YPA when blitzed.
  • 4th in completion percentage when blitzed.
  • 91st in percentage of play action passes.

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Silence! Here are some clips! From one game!

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JJ MCCARTHY

  Good   Neutral   Bad   Ovr   Reads
Game DO CA SCR   PR MA   BA TA IN BR   DSR GRADE!   RPOs ZRs
East Carolina 6+ 14(2)++++       5       2     91% +20   0/0 0/0
UNLV 2 15++ 1   1 1       1     95% +12.5   0/0 1/3
Bowling Green 1 6+ 1   1 1       3** 2**   61% -3   0/0 2/2
Rutgers 3 13++(1) 3   1       1 3 1   79% +12   0/0 3/4
Nebraska 3+ 10+ 1   1 1       1     94% +13   0/1 3/3
Minnesota 1 11+(2)     1 1       3     80% +8.5   2/2 3/3
Indiana 2 11+++(1) 2   2 3     1       94% +15   0/0 3/4
MSU 5+ 15(1) 1     2     1* 3     87% +13   0/1 1/1

(Run +/- is in the other chart; the above is solely a passing/decisions grade.)

Ye gods. We have one TA* for the run-around sack McCarthy took, three INs—the Corum dumpoff overthrow, the Morris overthrow, and a ball a yard or two behind Wilson—and the rest is golden. I embedded a number of McCarthy's wow plays above.

And while McCarthy's throw for the first Loveland touchdown is less obviously a wow play, I submit that it is a wow play, from both Loveland and McCarthy. Just watch the route about six times.

Loveland has a jab step inside that gets Grose to turn his hips, then drifts back outside. Grose is now thinking "oh shit" and decides he has to flip back to the outside, which means he has to turn all the way around if he's going to maintain any speed. At this point Loveland turns back to the inside and the ball is right there. Nobody is defending that. The ball is halfway there when Loveland turns around, and it feels like McCarthy knew Grose was dead as soon as he turned his hips inside.

Even McCarthy's odd whiffs were "almost" sorts of things. He zings this a yard or two behind Wilson but this is first down play action where nobody bites and the window is non-obvious; McCarthy finds it and just barely misses another DO:

There's also been some assertions on the internet that McCarthy's miss to Morris in the two minute drill was more of a Morris thing than a McCarthy thing, and those might be right. If you watch Morris's route it doesn't feel like he's really going all out at any point:

I charged that to McCarthy but there is some merit in believing that a redshirt freshman WR may have been the issue there.

Okay, but what about the Controversial Pull and Controversial Throw?

McCarthy did have a bad pull on a third and one that was odd on review. Michigan's using Roman Wilson as a split flow blocker here and he engages with the charging DE. After zaprudering this it really looks like the guy McCarthy reads is… the same DE.

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These signals are crossed. Either Wilson is supposed to arc this guy and get out on the edge or McCarthy's read should not actually be live. I charged this to Wilson and did not file this as a zone read positive or negative; YMMV.

Meanwhile, the dodgy completion to Barner:

I was less sanguine about this one than the Indiana incident largely because Barner is open and McCarthy hitches up twice before getting to him. Ball should be out now:

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Instead of letting it rip he resets his feet and lets it rip, leading to the near-PBU. I filed this as an MA; unnecessarily dangerous but still a completion. Nice job by Barner to not lose concentration when Brule flashes in front of him. Speaking of Barner…

He does catch things now?

He does, and this time I actually clipped his YAC events. The first one is fairly typical "is a tight end" stuff but Barner's done this three or so times this year:

His ability to tough out an extra yard or two while being tackled is occasionally very useful. And then there's this:

He has an agility that's not commonly paired with +++ blocking. Later on that drive he got matched up with Chester Kimbrough, a cornerback who's started on and off for MSU for three years, and got so wide open on a pivot route that he rumbled for 15 YAC:

Kimbrough is very bad—48 coverage grade on PFF—but we're grading on a TE-vs-CB curve. Barner isn't Loveland but neither should he be pigeonholed as a blocking tight end. He's been a 1-for-1 replacement for Schoonmaker, more or less.

Schoonmaker was a second round pick!

I'm not sure how Barner's going to test but if he's in the same range as Schoonmaker he will go on day two of the draft. Here's some more blocking bits:

Offensive Line
Player + - T Notes
Henderson 5 1 +4 Chugging along, being pretty all right.
Keegan 5.5 4.5 +1 Got shed a couple of times.
Nugent 6   +6 Excellent picking up twist blitzes.
Zinter 7 3 +4 Another –2 for getting shed, but otherwise good.
Barnhart 4 3 +1 Eh.
Jones 1 1 +0 Garbage time, not in total.
Persi   2.5 -2.5 Not in total.
El-Hadi 1.5   +1.5 Not in total.
Crippen 0.5 0.5 +0 Not in total.
Bredeson 0.5   +0.5 Reduced role; just 9 snaps.
Barner 6 1 +5 Also +1.5 YAC.
Loveland 2 0.5 +1.5  
Beetham   2 -2 Not in total.
Marshall       DNP
         
TOTAL 36 13 73% Slight step back.
Backs
Player + - T Notes
McCarthy 1   +1 One scramble.
Orji       DNC
Tuttle       DNC
Corum 2.5 1 +1.5 Some odd +0.5s but nothing big.
Edwards 1.5 3 -1.5 One nice screen and one missed cut.
Mullings       DNP
Hall 0.5   +0.5  
TOTAL 5.5 4 +1.5
Receivers
Player + - T Notes
Johnson 1.5 2 -0.5  
Wilson   3 -3 Charged the third and one failure to him, FWIW.
Morris 2 3 -1 All three minuses in Tuttle Time, FWIW.
Clemons   1 -1 Same.
Morgan 3   +3 Eyes coming out his butt.
Moore       DNC
TOTAL 3.5 5 -1.5 Tuttle Time stuff not in total.
Metrics
Player + - T Notes
Protection 37 5 88% -3 Zinter, –1 Barnhart, –1 Henderson
RPS 12 9 +3 Eh.

So here's the recipe for a relatively moribund (Corum 15 for 59, Edwards 6 for 14) running game: get decent but not great blocking, have your wide receivers blow some stuff, and get very little out of the running backs. If there's a concern after a 49-0 drubbing of a rival it's that the running backs don't appear to be rounding into their 2022 form. There have been brief asides in a majority of UFRs about how Corum and Edwards aren't doing last year things but surely they'll start doing them again once the rust is knocked off.

This does not appear to be happening. Corum still isn't the same back he was a year ago. Last year I don't know if this meh MSU cornerback even touches Corum:

I don't think we've seen any laundry on the deck this year after he was doing it on a weekly basis last year.

Similarly, I had an Edwards complaint on the crack sweep that didn't come off. Dude, put your foot in the ground:

Cal Haladay's chasing you inside out, you have to test his change of direction instead of just running straight into a bunch of nothing.

Corum's been good; last year he was incredible. I'm reaching It Is What It Is stage here. This was game eight. Not a lot of runway left.

On the bright side?

Pass protection was incredible. McCarthy got pressured on approximately two plays, which he turned into a touchdown and a 17 yard scramble. Everything else featured pockets McCarthy could have had a bath in.

Also, hello Drake Nugent. We haven't really talked about Nugent much this year except to say that his relative lack of grading around here is more about circumstance than performance. Still, it took about five games before I was declaring Olu Oluwatimi the Rimington winner, and Nugent has not fielded that level of chatter. I do think he's quite good; Michigan has been about as organized as they were a year ago and Nugent personally is adept at picking up whatever the opposition throws at him. I thought this stunt pickup in the low redzone was impressive:

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He shoves the slanter over so that Zinter can pick him up and then pops off on the looper. Here is a +1. He did a similar thing on a double-A-gap blitz later, but Keegan never picked up the guy Nugent left:

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MSU went back to the hits in this game, running that twist blitz over and over, and Nugent handled it with aplomb. Everyone else on the line save Henderson has a long track record of performance at Michigan, so their game-to-game scores are kind of shrug-worthy. Keegan is going to Keegan; Zinter is going to Zinter. Nugent putting up a +6 with no minuses against a bunch of blitzes is reassuring. He finally got tested and passed with flying colors.

I notice the RPS number is still positive even in the post-Stalions era.

Once again I would like to emphasize the general unknowability of whether sign stealing is efficacious. Michigan got stuck in a third and long because of back to back plays which ate big RPS minuses. The first was a windback that was doomed because Brule hung back at the LOS and ate Edwards in the backfield, and on the next play Brule was sitting on Michigan's TE delay:

If you were inclined you could interpret this as MSU getting Michigan's signs; more likely they left a spy in because of Michigan's tendencies and rolled a critical hit. This is inevitably going to happen over the course of a football game. It only gets suspicious when you've got a neverending string of RPS hits, which hasn't happened on either side of the ball this year.

Meanwhile Michigan got to a +3 in RPS in barely over a half of football. It should be noted that Michigan didn't pull any weird stuff out of the barn for this one. No flea-flickers, no new run plays, one snap with both Corum and Edwards on the field. They just ran their stuff, more or less.

The one potential exception is crack sweep. We're getting enough crack variations that it's clear it's going to be a relative staple:

Michigan ran three in this game, gaining 7, 9, and –2 yards; the –2 event got charged to Johnson and Edwards. When it works it is an easy crack block for your less-blocky tight end and then Barnhart and Barner in space:

Teams started sitting on this later in crack sweep's first run under Harbaugh, but I don't think they can reasonably do this again because they will eat duo and die when they are wrong.

In the passing game, what popped up from time to time were MSU attempts to zone that went badly. Michigan's third and four conversion on their first drive was either a brilliant Michigan gambit or Michigan State just dorfing a coverage. It kind of feels like both? Wilson goes in motion to confirm it's zone and then the MSU linebackers drop ten yards deep on third and four:

Then you have Cal Haladay trying to keep up with Roman Wilson. In a word: no.

You just clipped this play so you could say Haladay is slow for the millionth time.

Untrue. That is merely one a of a few different reasons I clipped this play. Cal Haladay is molasses in a human suit. Cal Haladay is still competing in the 100 meter dash from the Atlanta Olypmics. Cal Haladay runs like he's chasing the man who kidnapped one of his garbage sons.

WE GET IT

Cal Haladay is slow. He is not fast.

MOVE ON

Fine. I continue to desire more Donovan Edwards College Crappe in the offense. This is a hell of a way to convert a third and thirteen:

I don't think Michigan's even trying to convert there; they're on the MSU 39 and they're either trying to set up a makeable fourth down in no-man's-land or handing a 50-yard attempt over to James Turner. Edwards has the jets to make it all the way, because he's Donovan Edwards. One thing the Semaj Morgan package makes clear is that Michigan does have a bunch of College Crappe in the offense, but I had just one play in this game featuring both Edwards and Corum. If there's one thing I hope they spent a bunch of time on in the bye week it's unleashing the Corum/Edwards double-headed tailback of doom.

Similarly, the Orji stuff late was interesting because they do have this stuff in the playbook:

They have not used it much to date because these are the kind of QB runs on which you're not getting out of bounds, but when push comes to shove against OSU I would not be surprised to see items like this become more prominent.

 

 

What's with the TEs running into the flat, though?

I don't know. For the second straight week a Michigan run play was blown up in part because they ran a tight end into the flat and nobody from the front seven went with him:

Against Indiana this was from the pistol and McCarthy turned around to hand the ball off, resulting in an RPS minus; this week McCarthy was in the gun and (presumably) had the option to toss it to Loveland, resulting in an RPO minus. The Indiana play made no sense; this one would have been fine if McCarthy threw the ball.  Maybe against Purdue it'll come off.

Receivers?

  THIS WEEK   THIS YEAR
Player Uncb Circus Tough Routine   Uncb Circus Tough Routine
Johnson       3/3 4 2/3 2/2 17/18
Wilson 1 0/1   2/2 1 1/5 3/3 20/20
Morris 1     0/1 1 0/2   4/5
Moore       1/1 3   1/1 2/2
Clemons         1     3/3
Morgan       3/3   1/1   7/8
O'Leary               1/1
Loveland       4/4 2   2/2 17/19
Barner     2/2 7/7 2 0/1 2/2 15/15
Bredeson               2/2
English               1/1
Klein       1/1       1/1
Corum   0/1   2/2 1 0/1   6/6
Edwards       3/3     1/2 13/14
Mullings               1/1
Hall                
Stokes                

Routes: Barner+, Loveland++

Again, marvel at the near-total lack of circus/tough opportunities.

Any notable items from Tuttle Time?

Just one. Semaj Morgan was once again impressive. His big gain on the bubble screen was all him, as MSU jumped it and Morgan was able to use his spooky situational awareness to immediately abort and reverse field:

Look at this!

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There is no way Morgan has any idea that the play is very very dead and the first thing he does is run away from the play design. This could start backfiring if he's pressing the abort button on plays that are well set up, but so far so good. I believe that Morgan can sense auras or somesuch thing and will not be dissuaded from this until his first step is the wrong way.

We also got another Not Just A Gadget Guy data point:

As the Michigan fandom's foremost proponent of wee fellas, I welcome this development.

Heroes?

McCarthy, Nugent, Barner, Loveland.

Maybe not so heroic?

The running backs need to make some plays.

What does it mean for Purdue and beyond?

McCarthy is on fire. Ridiculous game from him. Hit several NFL windows. No bad reads since Rutgers. Anticipating his guys are going to be open based on the body posture of defenders. Game manager.

McCarthy is the crutch the run game has to lean on. It's not the same as the last couple years, and that's fine. But we should admit it. This is not a reverse jinx.

AJ Barner should be all Big Ten. He's the best blocker in the conference and look at him doing all the receiving stuff in this game. He won't be All Big Ten because he won't have the catches and yardage but there's no one in the conference I'm trading for him.

Nugent: good. Not Olu, but good.

Semaj is a guy meter increments. Two more impressive plays to bring his season total to five or six.

Comments

Ballislife

November 2nd, 2023 at 12:26 PM ^

 

Non-Signalgate content! Let's go! Thanks for putting this out Brian. I know this whole... whatever you want to call it, has been tough on a lot of people, but especially you and the moms.

JHumich

November 2nd, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^

Theory: we are restraining the PAP bc we are going to PAP 10x as much in The Game, not only for passing game benefits but to open up the run game more. 

Vasav

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:07 PM ^

While it's definitely harder than that era, it's clearly still possible to win championships with a Game Manager. Cade, Stetson Bennet, Nicky Foles/Carson Wentz. Sure, it's way EASIER if you have a an amazing QB. But the best way to field a competitive offense is still with a great interior offensive line and solid RBs, even tho gamebreaking receivers and QBs are more valuable. (great tackles are worth the investment tho, in NFL terms).

D-wise it's gotta start up front too, there's no hiding there. you can invest more in the back 7 but if you don't have some havoc up front it's just hard to see how you don't get nickeled and dimed down the field.

BlueDad2022

November 2nd, 2023 at 12:47 PM ^

Thanks for the write up and JJ highlights.   That was a beautiful game of football.

It almost feels like it was last season after the last two weeks.   Thankfully only two more days until Purdue.

ERdocLSA2004

November 2nd, 2023 at 12:55 PM ^

Luckily MSU knew about our sign stealing and was able to change their signs before the game and successfully scored 0 points.  Had our extensive operation not been exposed, I don’t think they would've scored more than 0 points.  

lhglrkwg

November 2nd, 2023 at 12:58 PM ^

I try to give Ari Wasserman a fair chance even though he's an ex-Buckeye writer but good god what a terrible take. This guy is letting his Buckeye fanboy shine through

Blue Vet

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:05 PM ^

Great stuff. You're not just a blog manager.

What would I do with MGoBlog in my life? Well, I suppose I'd get some work done but that's the fun in that?

Navy Wolverine

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:12 PM ^

So the RPS was defense +16 and offense +3 with them going to the sidelines for plays. Indiana was +11 for defense and +1 for offense. I don't think sign stealing really matters.

Motoslave

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:17 PM ^

So the boa constrictor isn't constricting as well as last year cause food's dying too fast?

I think the ground game has been the type to feel out the weak spots and then punch through... this year there's no feeling out cause JJ is throwing it 20 yards downfield... Then it's like, oh... a run... somethin went wrong... fix it?  Nah, let's throw it some more. Oh, game's over... bring in the backups!

mi93

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:28 PM ^

The long throw by Tuttle to Morgan also makes me feel better about the QB situation in general.  He's largely shown good decision-making, willingness to pull, and good throws (just not JJ throws, obvi).

whidbeywolverine

November 2nd, 2023 at 1:50 PM ^

Agree that running game isn’t like 2022. But..

1. We truly still haven’t taken the bubble wrap off of McCarthy and the scrape exchange.

2. The outside zone experiment and early rotation of tackles set back the run blocking a bit.

3. We still are conserving both backs and reps are way down.

I’m optimistic that cold November games will be our chance to go back to man-ball,  and I expect explosive run plays and 100 yard production out of Edwards or Corum start Saturday night, and the fun continues through December 2nd!

DaftPunk

November 2nd, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^

Finished re-watching this last night. 

So many rewinds of TEs spread out in the X receiver position that I don't recall ever seeing. 

CorJo with a nice first down pickup.  From top receiving target to forgotten man in one year.  Saving himself for The Game I hope. 

 

ALSOOOOOOOOO 

 

Dono keeps looking back at JJ for a dump off, long after he's cleared the LOS, not blocking the safety, and asking to get his head taken off by same.

alum96

November 2nd, 2023 at 2:22 PM ^

This seems like it was 4 years ago. 

I understand Corum - maybe that injury just really changed him.  But Edwards is something I can't recall seeing in terms of regression in a RB - you generally either have it or you don't and he looked like he had it last year.  

I don't ever and won't doubt Herbert but maybe these guys lost a step bulking up - no clue it's just weird.

Cubbieblue and BLUE

November 2nd, 2023 at 5:57 PM ^

Corum just seems like he is operating at 3/4 speed. I completely agree with Brian on the play he said last year the safety isn't touching him because he is going 1,000 mph and makes his move at full speed well before arriving at the safety. On this year's play, he slows down before making a move, and he gets tackled for three yards instead of making a house call. 

bluegoinggray

November 2nd, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^

Interesting evolution of this team since last season. Running game and offensive line play not quite as good. Quarterback and tight end play better. Recievers a wash?

 

Overall, a step forward. 

LeCheezus

November 2nd, 2023 at 3:49 PM ^

I agree that the run game thing is real to some extent.  I've also never seen a team put away the starters midway through the third quarter in 7 out of their first 8 games (Rutgers the exception - but recall Mullings was the beneficiary of a Rutgers defense that was pooped).  Neither Corum nor Edwards seems quite as good as last year...but they also aren't getting a lot of opportunities against desperate, tired defenses late in the 3rd and into the 4th quarter.  So yeah, Corum not dusting a guy is real, but I still think there would be more there if those guys weren't sitting on the bench.

I will bet a dollar that either PSU or Maryland is finally going to treat JJ as a bigger threat than the run game, and back off the back 7 to favor coverage.  I also predict that immediately resulting in a 12 play, 75 yard TD drive with no passes.  They will go back to 8 in the box on the next drive.

AlbanyBlue

November 2nd, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 

After all the BS this week where it's been literally the media world, the conference, and the NCAA against Michigan, UFR makes it all better.

As far as the game, here you pretty much saw it. The run game isn't as dominant as last year. OK, fine. Now Michigan will pass the ball all over you. OK, opponent caveats apply, of course, but damn. NFL throw after NFL throw.

This is a hell of a team. A pleasure all season. I really, really, REALLY hope we pull it all off in the face of  **waves hands around randomly**......