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Spring Roster Overanalysis

By Brian — March 16th, 2010 at 2:51 PM — 80 comments
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They're having the usual press conference and 30 minutes of drills and whatnot today, on the first day of spring practice, but there are a couple bits that have already come down. One is an updated spring roster that's missing Nick Sheridan—who is becoming a GA—and kicker Bryan Wright. Wright would have been a redshirt senior next year; apparently he's taking his degree and heading out. Wright did kickoffs last year, FWIW.

Position changes:

  • As expected, Cam Gordon is listed at S. So are Brandin Hawthorne and Teric Jones.
  • Mike Jones is listed at linebacker.
  • Ryan Van Bergen is listed as a defensive end, providing yet further confirmation that he is the Graham apparent. Steve Watson, who was a quick end last year, is probably headed for strongside DE this year—he's listed at 257 and a DE.

Not a ton we didn't know about there. Roh and Herron are listed as linebackers, but they were listed as linebackers last year.

Significant weight changes:

Player 2009 Spring Diff
Quarterbacks
Tate Forcier 188 194 +6
Receivers
Je'Ron Stokes 181 187 +6
Jeremy Gallon 165 171 +6
Roy Roundtree 170 169 -1
Junior Hemingway 220 227 +7
Darryl Stonum 196 193 -3
Tight Ends
Martell Webb 245 257 +12
Brandon Moore 243 260 +17
Offensive Line
David Molk 275 270 -5
Ricky Barnum 275 282 +7
Elliot Mealer 299 310 +11
Rocko Khoury 283 291 +8
Patrick Omameh 276 293 +17
Mark Huyge 288 305 +17
Michael Schofield 268 281 +13
Taylor Lewan 268 283 +15
Quinton Washington 325 307 -18
Defensive Line
Will Heininger 261 271 +10
Ryan Van Bergen 271 280 +9
Will Campbell 318 324 +6
Craig Roh 238 249 +11
Anthony Lalota 256 263 +7
Greg Banks 266 274 +8
Renaldo Sagesse 279 285 +6
Adam Patterson 263 272 +9
Linebackers
Kenny Demens 236 244 +8
JB Fitzgerald 230 239 +9
Obi Ezeh 243 240 -3
Kevin Leach 206 200 -6
Isaiah Bell 220 237 +17(!)
Mike Jones 203 207 +4
Secondary
Jordan Kovacs 194 200 +6
Justin Turner 187 197 +10

All weight changes, positive or negative, will be portrayed as positive by fluff articles. The names that jump off this list to me are…

  • Tate Forcier: slightly less likely to get broken in two.
  • Hemingway, Moore, and Webb are now strapping fellows indeed. I can't imagine Hemingway is going to be much of a deep threat at 227; if he is he's going to explode. You can tack freshman Stephen Hopkins in here, too: he's listed at 236. That's a battering ram of a tailback.
  • Losing Brandon Graham sucks hard but replacing his 263 pounds with Will Campbell's 324 and tacking on 21 pounds (Mike Martin gained a single pound) elsewhere on the line yields a starting defensive line twenty pounds heavier on average than last year's. The backups all put on six to ten pounds as well, and will presumably get bigger by August.
  • The line should be about the same size. Ortmann (284) and Moosman (293) exit and are likely to be replaced by Omameh (293) and Barnum (282). Schilling is about the same size. Molk is actually lighter, though I assume that's an effect of his injury-wracked year and rehab more than a goal. The only presumptive starter who will be a lot bigger is potential RT Mark Huyge, up 17. The new kids will continue to put on weight and Molk should regain what he lost, so overall it will be a little bigger but not by much.
  • Schofield and Lewan probably need another year.
  • I can't imagine that Michigan actually wanted Leach to get smaller.
  • It's good that Michigan is putting weight on Will Campbell now instead of taking it off, right?

This concludes your vastly too detailed review of the spring roster. Carry on.

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:05 PM | wait (Score:1)
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i thought all freshman gained 15. oh, that's just us couch potatoes, and its not fat? ok nevermind

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:07 PM | "it's a freakin' commercial?" (Score:1)
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"it's a freakin' commercial?"

Nobody home...

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:12 PM | I've noticed multiple players (Score:1)
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I've noticed multiple players at each position. Is Michigan planning on having "backup" players this year? RR and his crazy ideas...

It's all John Navarre's fault.

 

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:12 PM | Remember when we all said that RR would be like those (Score:1)
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commercials.

"We can rebuild them bigger, faster and stronger we have the technology".

We all said that RR would break the kids down in the first few years and then build them back up with muscle. I think that that is what we are seeing.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:13 PM | That's nothin' (Score:1)
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17 lbs in 4 month? Bah, my wife can do double that without working out!

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March 16th, 2010 at 11:21 PM | Interesting (Score:1)
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"Left tackle Tate Forcier"

It has a certain ring to it...

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:17 PM | Denard gained 3 FWIW, but (Score:1)
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Denard gained 3 FWIW, but from the pictures from his track running, I would've thought that he had gained more.

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:27 PM | That's the thing about last (Score:1)
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That's the thing about last year's freshmen, who weren't really exposed to college conditioning until later. I would imagine that their weight gains won't seem as significant since they have to burn fat as well as build the muscle. They may be putting on 10 lbs of muscle, but burning 5 of fat.

For today, goodbye. For tomorrow, good luck. And forever, Go Blue.

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:21 PM | Did Molk really play last (Score:1)
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Did Molk really play last year at 275? I wonder if his relatively small size possibly contributed to him getting hurt.

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:26 PM | Offensive and Defensive Lines (Score:1)
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A guy at my church on Sunday said our '250 pound lineman will never work in the Big Ten". I'll have to show him we are actually pretty big now. That will shut him up.

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March 16th, 2010 at 5:23 PM | Also tell him (Score:1)
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that the meek shall inherit the earth. That will give him something to think about for at least a week.

Taking it one week at a time

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:33 PM | I hope Tate can gain (Score:1)
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I hope Tate can gain a few more before fall.

I do love all the added weight on the defensive line. That should help with life after Brandon Graham.

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:36 PM | i'd like to see forcier get to 200 pounds... (Score:1)
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...i know it makes no sense, but i'm tired of hearing people bitch about our 190-pound qb. they won't say a word about a 200-pounder. 'course, they'll just bitch about something else, but whatever

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March 16th, 2010 at 4:50 PM | Early Sign That Big Ten Opposition is Already Doomed: (Score:1)
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QB Devin Gardner will be wearing the lucky No. 7 jersey.

Sweet.

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March 16th, 2010 at 5:58 PM | It's good.... (Score:1)
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It's good that Michigan is putting weight on Will Campbell now instead of taking it off, right?

If Campbell winds up looking like this....

....then yes, it's a good thing.

 

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"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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March 16th, 2010 at 7:39 PM | So you want him to look like (Score:1)
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So you want him to look like Mike Martin?

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March 17th, 2010 at 10:34 AM | I want everyone on the D-Line (Score:1)
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I want everyone on the D-Line to look like Mike Martin and play like Brandon Graham. Barwis can make that happen; Barwis is going to make that happen, right?

 

"...what do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile or what?"

"Fix the cigarette lighter."

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March 16th, 2010 at 6:01 PM | I don't think anybody (Score:1)
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I don't think anybody mentioned this, but the weight gain has come about in less than four months after the end of the last season. I doubt continued weight gain will be linear, but a bunch of these players will weigh several pounds more than shown in the data before practice begins next August.

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March 16th, 2010 at 6:10 PM | I think we need Brian's (Score:1)
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I think we need Brian's Height and Weight changes from last season, just to ensure our blogging overlord is keeping in tip top blogging shape. Obviously Tim, Paul, and myself are exempt as non-members of mgoblog last spring season.

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March 16th, 2010 at 6:11 PM | on Lewan (Score:1)
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I guess I wouldn't be as quick as Brian to dismiss Lewan's playing chances in 2010. 283 is still a little small, but omg, he grew an inch taller to 6'-8"! So, his metabolism is raging and he's still put on 17 lbs in the last 7 months. He must be eating 5,000 calories a day.

The season doesn't start for another 5 months. Maybe, finally, he's stopped growing UP and in could add another 17 before September -- it's not like he couldn't carry a little fat on that frame. Eventually, he could cruise up to 325 and still be as lean as Jake Long who played his senior season at a slimmed-down 313.

The upside of this kid is amazing.

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March 16th, 2010 at 6:28 PM | Still, he'd have to beat out (Score:1)
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Still, he'd have to beat out a fifth-year senior (Dorrestein) and a redshirt junior (Huyge), along with a few other players. It's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's unlikely.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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March 16th, 2010 at 6:33 PM | Hope (Score:1)
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Hope all of these weights aren't just program weights like so many coaches do just to get people all excited. Haha but either way I'm def excited has to get you pumped up for the season because we def got owned in the trenches in a lot of the games and it doesn't look like that will be the case this year. GO BLUE!!!!!

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March 16th, 2010 at 8:14 PM | The heights and weights on (Score:1)
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The heights and weights on the roster last year seemed pretty accurate. For example, I can't imagine that Roy Roundtree is any lighter than 170/169. Also, they listed Lalota at about 235-240 lbs. when we all thought he was 260 coming out of high school.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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March 16th, 2010 at 9:21 PM | I doubt Ricky Barnum is going (Score:1)
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I doubt Ricky Barnum is going to replace anyone, by the way. I've heard that Omameh is likely to stay at guard, but regardless, Huyge and Omameh are most likely to be the guys to replace Ortmann and Moosman.

The line will probably consist of some combination of Dorrestein, Schilling, Molk, Omameh, and Huyge.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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March 16th, 2010 at 9:31 PM | Barnum is strictly playing (Score:1)
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Barnum is strictly playing center, correct?

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March 16th, 2010 at 9:46 PM | He wasn't mentioned as (Score:1)
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He wasn't mentioned as playing center at all, actually. The four centers are Molk, Khoury, Pace, and Mealer.

Barnum's mostly playing guard and might get a little bit of a look at tackle, too.

Twitter - Recruiting Update: May 20

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March 17th, 2010 at 4:55 PM | video game (Score:1)
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When I read this, I felt like I was playing EA NCAA Football after the season was over and seeing how all my player improved from last year. I was half expecting a 60-100 score next to each player too.

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March 18th, 2010 at 12:40 AM | 17 lbs is alot of weight gain in a short time (Score:1)
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If it were ALL muscle..but its pretty much impossible to gain only muscle...there doing great if 75% of that weight is muscle..they will probably continue to build until June and then begin to lean out..we will have a good picture as to what they've done in August but its nice to see who is potentially working hard at it..

How can you kill that which has no life

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March 18th, 2010 at 9:03 AM | Each post I read...... (Score:1)
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gets me more excited for the season to start. It has been a long time since UM fans had to go forward having faith that their team would succeed, in the past it was a given. Every UM team won and made it to bowl games.

For the first time since I starting following this team I have had to rely on hope. When RR was first hired I had tons of it. I thought he was going to come in and do o.k. right away (I know that was an insane thought now) with a record of about 7-5 with a bowl game.

After that first season my expectations changed significantly. I adjusted my year two outlook to what I thought year one was going to be....7-5 with a bowl game. We all know how that turned out.

Now, on the brink of another season my hope is renewed and I am, once again, looking at a record of 7-5 or better (my heart tells me better, but who knows) and a bowl win.

I guess my point is I have never been more excited about being a UM fan. There is definitely a lot of uncertainty, but with that uncertainty comes a lot of excitment. My biggest hope is simply that RR gets whatever the magic number is for wins or revenue in order to keep his job, because in the longterm I think he will build one hell of a program if given the chance.

GO BLUE and can't wait for the season to start!!!

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