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The Soaring Majesty!

By Brian — September 28th, 2009 at 11:43 AM — 136 comments
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Editor's note: sorry this is late. I thought I'd published this around 11 AM, but evidently I didn't hit the button.

9/26/2009 – Michigan 36, Indiana 33 – 4-0, 1-0 Big Ten

boubacar-cissoko-smoked-by-indiana martavious-odoms-game-winner-indiana 

Tate Forcier dropped back to throw and Martavious Odoms broke open and Forcier lofted it. I swear to you that on an overcast, steel-gray day a sliver of light slipped through the clouds to linger on the object's parabolic, causing its rain-slicked surface to glitter as it reached its apex. It started to come back down, and Odoms slowed fractionally, allowing the Indiana safety—

Aw, hell. Indiana? No offense to a program the evidently warranted more respect than Vegas or this here blog offered in the run-up to the game, but passages of soaring majesty get ruined when a Hoosier is mentioned. Since Wangler-to-Carter, when Indiana was 8-4, moments of glory against Indiana only come in one form: oh thank God we didn't lose to Indiana.*

So, yeah: thank God we didn't lose to Indiana.

Since we didn't, we should all just breathe a sigh of relief, recalibrate expectations back down a little bit, and move on. Michigan's not at a point where any win against any Big Ten team is one to freak out about. The freshmen quarterbacks remain freshmen and it's becoming clear that the defense has about the same raw talent level that last year's offense had. The only thing keeping them from plunging off a deep, dark cliff is the fact that no position on defense is as singularly important as quarterback is on offense.

A couple may be as undermanned, though. Indiana's potentially-crushing, one-play, 85-yard riposte to Tate Forcier's first attempt at fourth quarter heroics exposed the secondary's talent deficiency in a way even starker than Michigan fans were treated to against Notre Dame. At least when Michael Floyd and Golden Tate and Jimmy Clausen were running wild you could point to torched opponents past and recruiting rankings and drooling NFL scouts. Seeing an Indiana freshman zip past not only the walk-on safety gamely pretending he doesn't run a 4.8 but the scholarship, potentially-starting cornerback not named Donovan Warren was alarming. If JT Floyd is going to play corner in the Big Ten he's going to do it ten yards off the line of scrimmage.

This is how bad it is: I'm not even mad at Floyd when a player gets vastly open or he commits a silly, unnecessary pass interference penalty. I'm mad at Tyrone Willingham, metaphorically. It's inconceivable that Michigan would find itself in this situation. There is exactly one junior and no seniors at both safety and cornerback. The 2007 class provides three of the four starters and has lost Artis Chambers. 2006 saw the only two defensive back commitments (Brown and Mouton) move to linebacker. The 2005 class was Brandon Harrison (decent but did not redshirt), Johnny Sears, and Chris Richards.  The recruiting malpractice everyone saw on the offensive line last year returned with a vengeance. Hell, even the 2008 class is looking like a disappointment: Brandon Smith is a linebacker; Cissoko and Floyd have been the weak link on a defense that's played three walk-ons extensively. Very little of that is Rodriguez's doing.**

The parallels between this year's secondary and last year's offensive line, on and off the field, are striking, and it's not like linebackers not named Stevie Brown are helping out much. Michigan's recruiting was wildly deficient in more than one area and will be an anchor going forward, basically until such time as the roster is full and the creaky last few Carr classes are no longer weighing down the top of the roster.

We should forestall complaining about Robinson and Tony Gibson and even Jay Hopson, who I've complained about personally, if somewhat obliquely, because there are excellent reasons why their units are performing poorly that have nothing to do with whether or not they can coach. Gibson was the guy who turned Ryan Mundy from a guy with an uncomplimentary stat (Yards After Mundy) named after him into an NFL draft pick. West Virginia's pass efficiency defense in the final few years of Rodriguez's time there: 28th, 63rd, 30th, 20th. There's plenty of evidence that Rodriguez isn't dealing with morons here, and plenty that suggests late-era Carr recruiting was. I'm stashing the torches and pitchforks away, hoping that the rest of the season follows a trajectory similar to that of the offense last year: baby steps towards respectability in the midst of crippling talent deficiency, followed by a second year of growth.

As always, this should be okay. It takes time to dig out from all the reasons 3-9 occurs.

*(The Hoosiers have had a few respectable teams in the intervening years, but Michigan either blew them out, lost to them (once), or missed them. Closest thing to a close win against a respectable team was '91, when Indiana was 7-4-1 and M won 24-16.)

**(Smith and Floyd did commit to Michigan after Rodriguez was named head coach but those players were widely considered locks for months before the coaching transition took place. And please note the criticism here is not necessarily of Smith (or Mouton or Brown) but the recruiting practices that failed to take their likely moves to linebacker into account. Floyd, for his part, might be a functional safety if he wasn't needed at corner.)

BULLETS

  • You know, I was sort of coming around to the piped in music but no more. I should never have said anything negative about the band, I take it all back, I believe the piped-in music to be an abomination, and curse anyone who voted in favor of said abomination during this site's earlier poll. The end of the first half was close to my idea of hell, with the evil homunculus responsible for the ear-piercing noise pollution blasting something stupid in-between every play. During the video review, I found myself so enraged at the piped in music that I fruitlessly gave the bird to the idiot playing Bob Seger at painful volume. I went to a concert later that night and the volume level there was considerably less ear-damaging.

    It's just unpleasant to hear a probably-terrible song at volume levels 130% of what the speaker system can actually handle. Turn it down. Turn it off. Stop alienating the people who really care about Michigan's traditions and stop catering to the folk who can't distinguish Michigan Stadium from an ECHL arena. It does not help anything.

    In fact, it actively stops cheers. The students were chanting "Go Blue" at each other during one point and the evil homunculus played over it. The evil homunculus plays AC/DC over what used to be a bass drum pounding out a beat to which the stadium chanted "Let's Go Blue." It has gone from somewhat tolerable to Michigan State in four weeks, and must be destroyed. I'm disappointed but not entirely surprised that the marketing wing of the Michigan athletic department would be so deaf to tradition. Mostly, I'm appalled. Piped-in music is a disaster and should be stopped immediately. (Note: MVictors mentioned it too, though Greg's not as ready to draw and quarter people. That is because he is soft. I am the Dwead Piwate Woberts, I have come for your souls.)

  • Didn't expect the official site to out a guy on the 85-yard Indiana touchdown but here you go:
    On Indiana's 85-yard touchdown run to take the lead in the fourth quarter, defensive tackle Ryan Van Bergen came off the field distraught after a blown assignment. He was taken aside by defensive coordinator Greg Robinson and then sat on the team bench with his head sagging. "You flush it and you come back and play," Robinson yelled down the line. "You don't need to be a hero."

    As I recall it I watched a 215 pound Indiana tailback outrun not only a walk-on safety (depressing that guy has to play but understandable) but a scholarship cornerback; if Van Bergen had problems he wasn't the only one. Also, Van Bergen was the backside defensive tackle… it's hard to imagine what his assignment was that could have prevented Indiana from running outside the other OT.

  • Interception or not, why the hell did Indiana throw at Donovan Warren? Why the hell would anyone throw at Donovan Warren the rest of the year? Opponents have now lost two close games because they threw at Donovan Warren. Sooner or later they will stop doing this, I think.
  • Related:
    After the game, Michigan defensive coordinator Greg Robinson confirmed that Cissoko’s absence was a coach’s decision. “Yeah, it was,” Robinson said. “I thought, J.T., at first, was a little nervous but as the game wore on he grew more and more comfortable and did a good job, really held his own.”

    I thought that Cissoko had gotten pulled because he had picked up an injury. He did come out for a play or two earlier, and when an Indiana receiver ran straight past him without so much as a head fake I figured it was a hamstring pull or something. Apparently not. Er. That's not good. I'd rather there was some explanation for Cissoko getting smoked other than… well… you know. Not being good at football.

  • Attn: Tate. Plz stop doing this plz:
    (caption) Michigan quarterback Tate Forcier throws a pass into the turf as he is sacked by Indiana defensive end Greg Middleton in the first half. Forcier was sacked on two consecutive plays by Middleton. ***  The Michigan Wolverines came from behind twice to beat the Indiana Hoosiers 36-33 at Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor. Photos taken on Saturday, September 26, 2009.  ( John T. Greilick / The Detroit News )
 
    It reminds me of Ryan Mallett and makes me want to die a little. Please continue all of your other activities except running around in the pocket too much.

ELSEWHERE

Maize 'n' Brew has some Zapruder-quality "I took pictures of my TV" stills of the aforementioned Warren interception. They make a decent case the call was correct, if spectacularly close and improbable. I'm waiting for the HD video before I make any proclamation either way.

MVictors notes that Justin Turner isn't even in the section of the bench that contains backup sorts; he's a long way from playing.

Doctor Saturday notes that Michigan and Notre Dame aren't exactly establishing themselves dominant powers in the wake of their entertaining week two matchup:

the question after Indiana's 467-yard, 33-point barrage Saturday is "Who isn't going to put up huge yards on the Wolverines?" The Hoosiers -- dead last in the Big Ten in every significant offensive aspect last year -- went on long marches and hit big plays alike (an 85-yard touchdown run and a 56-yard completion to set up another score) and might have been on their way to more points if the officials had seen Donovan Warren's clinching interception differently on IU's final drive. The Wolverines are 89th nationally in total defense and 92nd against the pass, slightly worse than last year's numbers for the year and significantly worse than their 2-2 start in September. There is no comparison between the offenses, but the progress of the Michigan D (or lack thereof) puts a real crimp in the prospective rise in the Big Ten. The fact is, resetting expectations after the first month, neither of these teams has put much separation between preseason expectations and their prospects for the season.

It's hard to dispute; even if Michigan's offense is ahead of preseason projections I don't think anyone had them giving up almost 500 yards to Indiana on defense. Michigan may be slightly ahead of what seemed like a universal 7-5 preseason consensus, but it's mostly because they've turned one coin-flip game in their favor and the Big Ten has looked slightly more moribund than even their recent standards.

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Posted on: September 29th, 2009 at 8:41 AM #1
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I just love the cryin'

In the comments section on Maize 'n Brew's Picture Story. The IU fans there remind me of the bear in "How Do You Feel" (a baby book I read to my 2 year old son). The Bear feels sad... "Booo Hooo"... I think I will name that bear Hoosier from now on.

Brewer. Wolverine.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 11:03 PM #2
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I would be interested to hear

I would be interested to hear a word on offensive play calling. Is there a chance that our offense hit a stall in the middle of this game from getting a little too creative and putting more decisions in the hands of our young qbs? Clearly this is necessary for experience reasons for the said players, but I for some reason I imagine that the playbook will be more simple and straightforward in the next couple games, except that we may air it out against State this weekend.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 8:27 PM #3
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Down with RAWK

During one instance of "Bawitaba" or however it's spelled, my Dad leaned over and said into my ear, "They really need to wait till they get the new speakers to do that. It's kind of annoying."

He's as much of a loudish music person as I am, but man did that sound awful at some points. Those speakers clearly can't handle some of the songs they want to play, and it reverberates around the stadium like some kind of painful death cry from a dying animal. I was pleased with the music up to this point but this past Saturday made me die a little inside. That was my last game for awhile and I hated that it was partially tarnished by that music...I really hope the guy breaks all his fingers or something before the Deleware State game. I can't imagine what opposing fans think, especially if they come from a stadium where they do piped-in music properly.

Even if they just fix what portions of the songs are played and how long they are played, that would make me feel better...there's been times when even Michigan has the ball and it doesn't shut off in time before Tate is up at the line calling a play!

"To hell with Notre Dame"
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All In For Michigan!

"God bless your cotton-pickin' maize 'n blue heart"
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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 8:00 PM #4
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Upon reflection rawk

I was very excited for us to try the rawk thing, but boy are they screwing it up badly.

Saturday was my first game this year.
I LOVE Thunderstruck, but chopping the awesome guitar riff intro totally mutilated the experience for me.

My initial reaction was they just need to shit can the Bose speakers and work on the selection, timing and sampling a bit (a lot).
Upon further reflection. Our band really does need to be way more included. They kick ass and were very much missed.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 5:38 PM #5
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What if...

GERG and Rodriguez think they have a decent enough chance of outscoring (you know what I mean) other teams, and thus don't want to burn Turner's red-shirt for what would at best be a minor improvement (guy who has been with team 5 weeks >(slightly) booboo/Floyd)?

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 3:53 PM #6
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Unfortunately, You are wrong...

During Keith Jackson's unretirement, he returned to Michigan Stadium to broadcast the 2003 Michigan-Ohio State game. Itwas the 100th game of the rivalry and he asked ABC if he could do it.

Proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRAP54yN24

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:56 PM #7
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Michigan is 4-0 and any team

Michigan is 4-0 and any team can beat any other team in CF these days.

That is all that needs to be said about Dr. Saturday's take.

Strictly business...Not personal.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:27 PM #8
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On the Music: "Lose

On the Music: "Lose Yourself" works. Teach it to the band and we can turn off the loudspeaker music.

On the Tate's Mallet imitation -- does that photo come from the play on which Tate was flagged for grounding? If so, aside from the fact that it shows our freshman being a freshman, it shows that should have been counted a sack, and no penalty. NTIMAD.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 3:43 PM #9
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There was no penalty, he was

There was no penalty, he was ruled down by contact

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 3:33 PM #10
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No, they ruled him down

Which was the right call - Tate's knee was clearly down before he threw.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:47 PM #11
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Another music complaint

If you watched the PSU - Iowa game, you'd have heard "7 Nation Army" playing a prominent role. Sounded like the whole 100,000+ crowd was singing that riff...and they were lead by the band.

Whoever's responsible for RAWK went way, way overboard this week and I'm with Brian - this HAS to be corrected.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 4:53 PM #12
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Unique / Michigan Music

It takes many games before a song/chant to fully catch on. It has been over a year and there are still people in the student section taking keys out on third down instead of doing the curse chant (thing).

As for the the Seven Nation Army song, I was a bit concerned about the uniqueness of the music selections. However, ever since PSU starting using that chant, I was up in arms. The White Stripes are a Detroit band, whether they like it or not, and I am glad they are part of the game. Maybe they could start playing some Stooges songs, but I am guessing most fans would not know it.

I see where Brian is coming from with his anger against the PIM, but as I said before, it's new and has to be gotten used to. Not just by the fans, but there needs to be coordination between the band, cheerleaders, and the man controlling upstairs. This would not be difficult to do. I am not sure who is in charge of playing what when, but someone needs to get Barwised.

One thing of note: Brian complained before about the playing of Sweet Caroline. While I agree and believe that shouldn't be played, the band took note of the crowd response and has been playing it the past couple weeks. Maybe they will do the same with Seven Nation Army or other songs that the crowd takes to.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 PM #13
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Penn State has been using

Penn State has been using Seven Nation Army for years. Ohio State uses it as well. Michigan State also uses Thunderstruck for its pregame entry.

Wouldn't that be some kind of red flag for Athletics? Apparently not.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:46 PM #14
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Defense

So, the really scary question is "Is it reasonable to think our defense will be good next year?" And the answer is "No." I can't believe that after the miracles RichRod pulled off with the offense, we are now looking at the defense as being a more difficult turnaround project. Hard to see a great defense until 2011. We need to pray that RichRod is on to some serious athletes on that side of the ball. And my recollection from Brian's recruiting posts about the 2009 class is that it was way short on corners.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:45 PM #15
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Van Bergan, 85 yard TD play

Brian,

Not sure if TV coverage will show this in your UFR, but if it does please pay attention to the following on that 85 yard TD.

There was a late adjustment on the D-line. I remember seeing someone (probably VB not sure though) want to switch, for the strong side. BG waved it off, then relented and switched late. Right before the snap and possibly in response to the d-line switching sides, JM started to switch and it brought it him away from the play side. Right then it was snapped and we were at serve disadvantage on that side.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:44 PM #16
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And then...

...depression set in.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:44 PM #17
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Brian, "The end of the first

Brian, "The end of the first half was close to my idea of hell" just about exactly sums up my entire feeling about this piped-in music crap.

I was standing on the field with the Alumni Band. It was the 40th Anniversary of the 1969 Rose Bowl Band. There were people around me who were at their first Michigan football game in over 30 years, people who bleed maize and blue, who helped formulate the musical tradition of our University. And it just about broke my heart to see the drum major who INVENTED the back-bend stand there and say "wow, when did this start?" with a look of sheer disbelief on his face when Thunderstruck started. He hadn't been back to Ann Arbor since 1973. What a way to welcome him back.

The sad part about this is no matter how many letters we write, no matter how much we object, the fact that our Marketing department and Bill Martin thinks this stuff is a good idea means it is never going away.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 3:14 PM #18
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And when this alum asked WHY

And when this alum asked WHY is there piped in music, did you say "Because nobody can fucking hear us because we play as if we're in the Hill Auditorium?"

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 5:48 PM #19
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awesome post

n/m

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:01 PM #20
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Come the fuck on. How much do

Come the fuck on. How much do you really care about Michigan if you haven't been to Ann Arbor in 40 years?

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:23 PM #21
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Apparently not as much as you

Apparently not as much as you "care" about Michigan, I guess?

Sometimes circumstances are circumstances, and people just don't get back as much as they want.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 3:40 PM #22
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Roman Polanski?? j/k

Roman Polanski??

j/k

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:40 PM #23
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There are no circumstances that should EVER

keep someone from a place that they love for over 40 years.

If you REALLY want something then you will find some way in your power to make it happen and to make it work.

This alum didn't do that and obviously showed that Michigan isn't that important to him.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand"

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 6:57 PM #24
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meets Andy Rooney

That's right, Dude. 100% certain.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:08 PM #25
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Yeah seriously

I agree Brodie. Yes maybe there are financial circumstances but to not make it back for at least every 10 years that is just pathetic.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:23 PM #26
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It seemed like

the linebackers were waaaaay late reacting to whichever way Indiana had the ball going. I think they showed a replay of one of the option plays they ran and it seemed that there was no one in the area they were running to. Also is Turner that bad? I know that there's no comparison between high school and college but talent and athletic ability should not be that big of a hurdle. Is he that behind in picking up the playbook or does the coaching staff really not trust his ability to cover his man?

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:16 PM #27
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Umm, Brian...

That's *two* coin-flip games that we've turned in our favor, not one.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:33 PM #28
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Umm, no...

Brian means that, before the season, Notre Dame was a game Michigan had (at best) a 50/50 shot at winning. The other three games, most prognosticators had Michigan wining pretty easily.

Notre Dame was expected to be tough, and it was. Indiana was unexpectedly tough, but practically everyone thought that Michigan should win it without much trouble.

To put it differently, Michigan had to play above its perceived level to beat Notre Dame, but Michigan had to play well below its perceived level for the Indiana game to be as close as it was.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:12 PM #29
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Piped-in music

What I can't understand is this:

WHY?

How does the athletic department benefit from the piped-in music? Does it generate revenue? Does it reduce costs? WTF? WHERE IS THE BENEFIT?

Brian is right. They have slowly been testing our patience with this. At first it was just a little and we say "OK no big deal" but now it is beyond a mere distraction -- now it is an intrusion, an obstacle to the gameday experience. Every game, it seems, they have been pushing it... and pushing it... until one day we all snap and drag that damned homonculus into the streets by its own entrails!!!

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:59 PM #30
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I wonder about this too

We've all read a few reasons like it's for pumping up the crowd and the players, some people can't hear the band, and so on. It's mostly word from mgobloggers since the AD doesn't feel the need to explain itself.

There is that one Rodriguez quote (it was either this past season or off-season) about wanting something like this music to boost excitement that I remember Brian saying 'please, no' to. Does he really have that kind of pull, or has he inspired the higher ups to take his suggestion on this?

What happened to the old farts who should hate this kinda thing? The only one I know actually likes the music (not all of the songs specifically, of course), and I'm trapped in some bizzarro universe where I'm telling my father to turn that music down.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 PM #31
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Piped-in music

This is no benefit to it whatsoever. Someone with access to whatever switch turns it on has it in their head that it is a good thing, and it is most decidedly NOT. Unfortunately I haven't seen any criticism/complaining in the mainstream press so I don't know if enough people will complain to force someone to drop it. It is an abomination.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 PM #32
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You can never....

nitpick enough. This is just not said often enough.

Infinity can only happen once. Think about that.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:57 PM #33
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1991 IU at UM

I was at that game. IU's RB Vaughn Dunbar had a huge game and actually outperformed Desmond in the return game. Trent Green was the QB.

IU was marching for the tying score, got to about the 5-yard line and on Fourth Down with seconds to go Bill Mallory called a simple fullback dive play. The fullback was a guy named Cal Miller and he had done nothing but block all day.

The play was blownup in the backfield. Michigan wins.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:50 PM #34
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Where to begin.....

Well, I have a lot of thoughts here.

Saturday was the best game I have seen Indiana play in at least two years. Its definetly one of the top 5 games they have played this decade. They played awesome. Michigan did not. Yet, the Wolverines won.

Let me ask everyone this: How is this any different that the 2006 near vomit job against the Ball State Cardinals?

I'll answer that. It's better. That was a program at a peak and still messing around with Ball Freaking State.

Today the program is building with obvious better days ahead. And, make no mistake, Saturday was a good win. If anyone is embarassed or sad about beating Indiana with a touchdown at the end, well then I hope somehow, someway, you get to live in 2008 forever. And that your new reality plays out in an ECHL Arena.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:46 PM #35
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Exactly

I didn't watch much of Indiana's first three games, but they were much better than I expected them to be. They looked disciplined and competent, and not at all overmatched.

I also think that they really pulled out all the stops for this game; according to the announcers they used formations and plays that they hadn't used prior to this game. They threw everything they could think of at the D, and the D did not respond.

I think they saw this game as a realistic opportunity to knock of a traditional conference power and really make a splash.

They were almost right.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:16 PM #36
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YES

Thank you. People get so hung up on their shallow perceptions of these teams -- the "brand" if you will -- that they don't see the obvious fact: Indiana played a hell of a game! (same goes for EMU, fwiw)

My hunch is that these people have no successful experience managing human beings. It's one thing to throw together some X's and O's. It's much more difficult to manage expectations, generate motivation, and generally sustain a high-end level of performance with people -- to COACH. People are difficult, complex, and unpredictable. You can have the best system in the world -- it won't mean jack shit if you can't coach PEOPLE. And this goes for any organization. Bo said as much in his excellent book, but it is nothing new to the wise. Alexander the Great didn't get his men to march off a cliff voluntarily, just to prove a point, because he devised an algorithm to win battles. It's because he was a leader and that is not quantifiable. Period.

If you can lead --if you can coach-- you will win many battles that, talent-wise, you should not. It's all about the people, people! And these teams, in particular EMU and IU, showed up ready to play. They came out firing. They were gutsy, motivated, and frankly HUNGRY to beat MICHIGAN. It is a dream of any would-be hero to take down a legend. And they busted their asses trying to get it done. But we had more guts! And it's great!

Of course, this is not to say that our team does not have significant deficiencies... but for fuck's sake, do not diminish these wins because we let up some big yards against traditionally patsy opponents. The competition isn't as bad as you think.
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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:56 PM #37
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Agreed. At the end of the

Agreed. At the end of the day, given the ridiculous number of freshmen and walk-ons we start (and the above-average caliber of this year's Indiana team), we should be happy to get the win irrespective of the stats. It's clear that we're not out of the rebuilding woods yet, so we should just be happy to be sitting on a 4-0 record. In a couple of years when the transition pains have run their course, expectations will be higher, but as Brian put it in the post-ND podcast, "This is the year that we can all get excited about beating Western".

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:54 PM #38
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Completely agree

This is a young team that is going to take it's lumps.

Every win is not going to be easy but it's not like Indiana isn't in a BCS conference. It's not they are a MAC team, or a I-AA team.

Yes expectations need to be tempered but every team no matter how good you are will have an off week and will need guts and glory to win a game here and there. Just ask USC who gacks a game every year to some terrible team.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:58 PM #39
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My wife said it all.

As I watched the game and grumbled aloud about it's Indiana it shouldn't be this close. My wife made me realize that is only the past talking. She has watched all the games with me this year and has no preconceived notions about who's good and who's bad. She looked at me and said, that's the best team Michigan has played this year. I looked at her like she's from Mars and said but it's Indiana. She said it's still the best team Michigan has played this year. After being dumbstruck and considering what she said, I was shocked into the reality that she's right. Indiana IS better than Notre Dame, and EMU and WMU. So instead of griping about it realize this was the best team Michigan has faced so far. Whether that bodes well or is a very bad thing is yet to be determined. She also said that defense (Michigans) really scares me. Hey maybe she's getting pretty good at figuring out this football thing. Also please don't tell her I said she's right that might make living with her really tough.

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Posted on: September 29th, 2009 at 9:15 AM #40
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Yeah, Let's Give IU Some Credit Here

They executed very well. Their players are fundamentally sound and they didn't make any mistakes. Their QB played a mistake free game and was very accurate when the receivers were open. A veteran team, I think IU is going to surprise some people this year. Fundamentally sound but physically inferior teams will beat physically superior teams who make mistakes. Should they be competitive with OSU this week, I don't think we can feel all that bad about the game being close.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:08 PM #41
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Well, we'll see about that...

Indiana could end up being better than ND, but right now I have to disagree. Wins over Nevada, MSU, and Purdue is much more respectable than wins over WMU, Akron, and some I-AA team.

No question Michigan played a worse game vs Indiana though, particularly on O.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:48 PM #42
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music

I have always detested piped-in music at sporting events and loved the fact that is was absent at Michigan stadium. I haven't been there yet this year but can hear it loud and clear on TV, and it is depressing. For the life of me I simply can't see the value of it - I like to be able to talk to the person next to me when there is a lull - let the band and the game itself generate whatever energy you need - the increased noise level owing to the new structures is enough. I wonder if this is crossing the Rubicon, or is there any chance someone will relent. IMHO it cheapens the experience. Nevertheless I will be driving there from Connecticut for my annual visit in a few weeks. Loyalty trumps all!

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:41 PM #43
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There were points at which I

There were points at which I was just as annoyed at the offense. At times, I wondered aloud whether we could bring Lloyd Carr back for just the second half so that he would have our two senior tailbacks continue to pound the ball behind a solid offensive line rather than relying on our 180 lb. true freshman QB to run around and make ridiculous plays. The running game was the only thing that worked with some degree of consistency in the first half; I don't know why we didn't stick with it. Does that make me a bad person?

In any case though, I'm glad it all worked out. Let's just hope we didn't sacrifice Forcier's shoulder for the win.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 2:11 PM #44
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I was thinking the same thing

I was thinking the same thing at the time, but in hindsight I'm not sure the running was working as well as we thought. Remember that the 60-yard CB TD wasn't a run, it was a pass. Well, the UFR will sort it out.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:26 PM #45
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I, too,

was wondering why UM seemed to keep throwing the ball when the running game was working so well (in the first half.) I understand that some of the throws were option screen passes, but it seemed that it was just throw after throw. I was also getting very angry a la Costanza (George is gettin' upset!) with Moosman's snaps. Sure, he's not a center, but the bad snaps were drive killers.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:52 PM #46
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I completely disagree with you

I never want the Lloyd Carr style of offense back.

EVER

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 1:21 PM #47
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agree

I don't want the pro-style back, I just wanted Rodriguez to use his running attack more last game, as that seemed to be working just fine with fewer risks associated.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:50 PM #48
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i completely agree with this.

i completely agree with this. it seemed to me like they (unnecessarily) went away from the run game.

lloyd was better.

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:48 PM #49
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Yes

At the end of the game before every play I was screaming "just run it" and then once the whistle blew I'd scream "run it again".

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Posted on: September 28th, 2009 at 12:52 PM #50
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Funny

that we complained about running too much with Carr as a coach and now we are complaining about not running as much with RR as a coach.

I just find the irony of it too funny and amusing at the same time.

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