[Dug McDaniel]

Hoops Hello: Knasir "Dug" McDaniel Comment Count

Matt EM June 23rd, 2021 at 10:00 AM

4-star guard Dug McDaniel gave Michigan its first pledge for the 2022 cycle when he verbally committed during his official visit last week. Dug's longstanding relationship with Juwan Howard and the familiarity with DMV players on the current roster in Hunter Dickinson and Terrance Williams played a key role in landing the speedy PG:

GURU RANKINGS

Rivals ESPN 247 Endless Motor
4*, #75 overall,
#19 PG
4*
#24 PG, #2 DC
4*, #52 overall,
#9 PG, #1 VA
4*, #70-90 overall 

 

247 is the most bullish on McDaniel, with placement near the top 50. Rivals, ESPN and Endless Motor aren't quite as high, slotting him in the 70-100 range (for 2022 ESPN has only issued a top 60, his numeric grade of 84 aligns with placement in the 70-100 range.)

Rivals lists Dug at 5'10, while 247 and ESPN go with 5'9. Having just seen Dug up close and personal for a lengthy talk, McDaniel is absolutely 5'7 - 5'8 without shoes and 5'8 - 5'9 with shoes. The weight distinction is trivial, as he's hovering around 150 and will undoubtedly need to add some muscle mass. 

[After THE JUMP: scouting, highlights]

SCOUTING

I've seen Dug twice this spring for extensive evaluations. Once during April on the AAU scene with Team Takeover and again last weekend in a HS setting with Paul VI Catholic. Having seen him in multiple settings and times over the last two months, I have a good feel for his game.

First and foremost, McDaniel is a playmaker for others. He excels creating easy looks for teammates in ballscreen action. Whether he's facing a blitzing defense or drop coverage, he generally sees the floor well and makes good decisions with his passes depending on how the defense reacts. When the defender guarding the corner shooter rotates over to tag Dug's roll-man, he consistently finds that corner shooter with skip passes that result in open 3s or places teammates in situations where they can attack a closeout. He can shift the defense with his eyes by looking one way before passing another. I really like McDaniel's ability to whip around one-hand passes with a live dribble. That sort of ambidexterity without having to pick up the dribble is often the difference between a wide-open layup and a turnover. 

Sticking with half-court shot creation, Dug frequently gets a foot in the paint when creating for himself. Once he gets there though, the results are a mixed bag. During my live viewings, he's struggled to finish at the rim. He's simply too small to finish over legit size + length at a decent clip. McDaniel is obviously cognizant of this and takes a lot of "other twos" in the form of off-balance runners and elbow pull-ups. He hasn't been efficient with either of those shot types during my live viewings, but he connected on enough floaters to give me hope that he may be able to score on those shot types at a reasonable clip at Michigan. 

That brings us to Dug's swing skill. Shooting. The shot mechanics aren't bad. The shot origin is a bit too low/starts at the chin-area/a push-shot to a small degree, but not really any unnecessary movement once he starts his upward motion.

In terms of results, McDaniel is 7/30 from three during my live viewings this spring. A very detailed scouting report from Point Guard Eyes had Dug shooting 36% from distance on 36 attempts through 6 games during the HS season with Paul VI Catholic in 2021. That is 20/66 for 30.3% from distance on the aggregate. 

He's flashed the ability to hit pull-ups in my live viewings, but hasn't been able to bury those shot types enough to prevent the opposition from going under screens at the next level. Pretty much the same on catch-and-shoot attempts. A capable shooter, but not likely one that will compel opposing defenses from sagging until he makes a few. I spoke with multiple DMV-area coaches over the weekend that have coached against McDaniel and the majority echoed the same sentiment. Make Dug beat you as a scorer. 

McDaniel is lethal in transition, no question about it. He has elite straight-line speed in the open court and consistently put it to use in my live viewings. He pushes tempo and can outrun the defense to finish or force the defense to commit to stopping dribble penetration at which point he finds teammates for dunks/layups or threes.

From an athletic perspective, Dug has great first-step acceleration and there aren't many HS prospects in the country with his straight-line speed as mentioned above. He's a good leaper in run-and-jump situations where he has space.

Defensively, McDaniel excels at the point of attack where he hounds ballhandlers. He slides his feet really well when ballhandlers dance around the perimeter. Where he can be exploited is when ballhandlers come to the realization that dancing isn't really necessary. Bully-ball drives are where Dug can struggle and that should come as no surprise. Off-ball defense isn't something we typically talk about with small guards, but I've really liked Dug as a free-safety type that jumps passing lanes and comes up with deflections and steals. 

The most extensive scouting report available comes from Point Guard Eyes as noted above. PGE appears to be a DMV-area evaluator exclusively, so the eval may be a bit more friendly due to local ties. Still, this is very in-depth analysis with a ton of visuals that makes for a great report. PGE thinks the improved pull-up game makes Dug a really tough cover in tandem with his playmaking and acceleration:

"Together with his handle and blow-by capability, the improvement in his 3-ball off-the-dribble makes him extremely difficult to defend as a scoring threat.  Giving him some space to work with is now risky, but pressing up may be even more detrimental.  On top of these scoring attributes, his vision, manipulation, and playmaking abilities only add to his to his effectiveness."

Jamie Shaw of Rivals echoed my praise for McDaniel as a playmaker during his recent report from the CP3 Memorial Day Classic:

"McDaniel has the crafty handle to get into the paint and attack his spots on the floor. However, it is his passing that really stands out. McDaniel delivers on target and those on-time deliveries create opportunities for everyone around him."

247 likes the quicks and ability to collapse the defense off the bounce while noting an uptick in his shooting prowess at the Southern Jamfest in May:

"Standing at 5-foot-9, McDaniel was one of the top performers of the day. His quickness and craftiness allows him to score the ball and navigate through a defense with ease. McDaniel can also shoot it well and is a willing passer who looks to get his teammates involved."

That's pretty much it for third party evaluations, as scouting reports have been rather scant over the last year and change due to limited basketball and corresponding viewings based on the health crisis. 

 

OFFERS

Dug didn't come out with the typical "final list", but the functional contenders before committing to Michigan on his OV were Virginia Tech, Penn State and Arizona State. McDaniel landed early offers from UConn, LSU, Georgetown, Florida, Vanderbilt and Wake Forest among others as well.

HIGH SCHOOL

Dug attends Paul VI Catholic in Virginia (DMV-area). Better known as PVI, the program is generally a powerhouse in the WCAC and was also home to 2021 offer Trevor Keels (now a Duke freshman). 

STATS

With an abbreviated HS season, the numbers are limited. Point Guard Eyes has him at 15.7 points and 7 assists per game on 43.9 FG% and 36.1% from distance through 6 games during the HS season. The 53.3% from the charity stripe raises the eyebrows a bit. It's a small sample on 15 attempts, but I don't necessarily know if that is accurate. 

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PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

McDaniel probably isn't going to play a ton as a freshman. With Frankie Collins having a year on him and potential for Kobe Bufkin and Zeb Jackson to be on-ball types, we're probably looking at spot duty or a possible redshirt.

After taking a year to add muscle mass and learn the ropes, Dug will probably get real rotational backup minutes at the PG spot to give Frankie a blow for 5-6 minutes per half. Offensively, he's going to provide some wow-moments as a passer that creates easy looks for teammates in ballscreen action. He'll score in transition and hit some jumpers. McDaniel will likely be able to keep his head above water defensively going up against the backups from the opposition. He'll exert ball-pressure and come up with some steals/deflections, but he'll get bullied occasionally as well.

Assuming Frankie is still around in year three, Dug would still project as the backup PG in an identical role as the previous year. But with a full grasp of the system in tandem with 15 more pounds of muscle mass in relation to now, McDaniel will likely be really good in that role. However, if Collins is no longer on the roster, we would likely see Dug in a starting role playing 30 minutes per game. I'm not going to pretend to know whether Dug's size limitations will mitigate his ability to be an impact player going up against starting guards in the B10. Too much of that is dictated by the relative talent/size of opposing guards.

What I do know is that McDaniel's trajectory as a half-court point guard will likely be determined by his ability to make triples at a reasonable clip. At 5'8 - 5'9, he probably won't ever be more than an adequate finisher. The playmaking/passing is absolutely legit, but if Dug doesn't have the requisite gravity as a shooter opposing coaches are simply going to go under screens/sag-off to mitigate his strongest attribute. 

Based on my live viewings, I'd probably project McDaniel as a high 20s - low 30s shooter from distance at Michigan. I do have hopes though, as your coach simply doesn't allow you to attempt 10+ triples in a single game if you're incompetent as a shooter. So perhaps with more reps and better shot quality, Dug becomes a low 30s - mid 30s shooter. 

That brings us to what I believe is paramount for the fit here. The system. Juwan Howard likes to push pace with NBA-like aggression, particularly off misses. This benefits Dug a lot. McDaniel's greatest physical gift is speed and his best skill facet is spatial awareness. Surrounding him with lengthy athletes and high-motor players is probably the best way to maximize Dug. In other words, we need to get stops at a high rate so McDaniel can be fully optimized in open space. And based on the sample and incoming personnel, the Wolverines project to be a damn good defensive team in the foreseeable future.

In terms of numbers, I wouldn't expect McDaniel to score more than 5-7ppg as an underclassmen. His ability to create looks for teammates is the more important thing to look at in that role. Assuming he takes over the PG reigns as an upperclassmen, we're probably looking at 10ish points per game and around 4-5 assists per contest. The 3% is critical for Dug in a starting role. 

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

The class will have Jett Howard, a big, and at least one of Ty Rodgers/Gregg Glenn/AJ Casey. Projecting anything beyond that is an exercise in futility given attrition and the portal. 

Comments

BlueinOK

June 23rd, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^

Dug is a good fit for Michigan’s system, but he’s never going to be a guy averaging double figures and taking a game over. Hopefully we get enough scoring around him where he can just push the pace and find scorers. 

Matt EM

June 23rd, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^

I don't necessarily think Dug is more athletic than X at the same stage. McDaniel is certainly faster in a straight line and perhaps has more acceleration. But X was exponentially stronger and was able to absorb contact and maintain balance against legit size/length. In other words, Simpson functionally got where he wanted to go. 

In terms of shooting, X was the better shooter off the catch and the bounce at the AAU level for King James EYBL. Have no clue what happened to him at Michigan. For all the the deserving praise John Beilein gets for development, he was never able to improve Simpson's shot. 

ShadowStorm33

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:39 PM ^

Yeah, thinking back, that's one of the biggest mysteries of the Beilein era. Back when he was recruited, the thought seemed to be that sure, Simpson was small, but he was a scoring machine. I think people maybe forgot about that in the year or two it took Simpson to get going, but regardless, he seemingly couldn't hit a jumper or FT here to save his life. The only other Michigan situation I can think of that's comparable would be Stauskas's shot never translating to the NBA...

trueblueintexas

June 23rd, 2021 at 4:20 PM ^

I don't think that is a fair statement regarding Simpson and Beilein improving his shot. Simpson's three point shooting was noticeably better his senior year and he clearly worked on his finishing in the lane by his junior year. Free throws remained a problem, but everything else improved. I would also note, by his senior year, Beilein did leave Simpson in at the end of games. It would be interesting to see his FT% in the final 3 min of game over his four years.

The stats back this up:

2016: FG - 37% on 43 attempts, 3PT - 26% on 19 attempts, FT - 71% on 31 attempts

2017: FG - 47% on 246 attempts, 3PT - 28% on 84 attempts, FT - 52% on 91 attempts

2018: FG - 43% on 295 attempts, 3PT - 31% on 104 attempts, FT - 67% on 57 attempts

2019: FG - 47% on 317 attempts, 3PT - 36% on 86 attempts, FT - 57% on 94 attempts

trueblueintexas

June 24th, 2021 at 3:16 PM ^

I think Juwan and his staff are excellent. I have no doubt they played a role in improving Simpson's game his senior year. I also think Beilein made strides with Simpson as well. Simpson was a significant work in progress player over his four years. Thankfully Simpson put the work in and there were two staffs which could help him. 

WolvinLA2

June 23rd, 2021 at 4:30 PM ^

I think Dug could be approximately Simpson 2.0. Some things he do better (he's faster, can dunk, maybe shoot?) and some things he won't do as well (probably play on-ball defense).  That said, if Dug adds some beef and develop a decent outside shot (both very improvable things in 2-3 years) he could be better than Simpson by the time he's an upperclassman and like Matt said, we won't need a lot out of him before then.

He looks to me like the perfect PG recruit to follow 2 highly rated guards (assuming neither Collins nor Bufkin leave after one year). He's also the perfect type of PG to attract scorers at other positions. "This guy will be an upperclassman who is a pass-first PG who isn't a dynamic scorer so will do everything to get the ball in your hands." If you're a recruit - which type of PG do you want to play with, Russell Westbrook or Chris Paul?

Lou MacAdoo

June 23rd, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^

Great work Matt. I love reading your breakdowns. Hopefully he perfects his game over the next few years and maybe develops a skyhook. He should be fun to watch and easy to root for. 

LabattsBleu

June 23rd, 2021 at 11:30 AM ^

Great work Matt!

Honest question: If Dug were 6'0" tall, with every other stat remaining exactly the same, where do you think he'd be ranked?

While I was hopeful on Trimble like most here, I know that Dug has been on the radar much longer, probably more scouted than Seth, and that Juwan preferred Dug over Seth (the staff was opposite with a lean to Seth).

As long as Dug is a solid FT shooter (above 75% imo) and can be a 25-30% from 3 point range, he'll be great.

 

Matt EM

June 23rd, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^

If he were 3-4 inches taller of course he'd be more coveted as a prospect. But that's true for just about any HM level prospect in the country. 

Dug is a tough projection. His floor has an extremely wide range, while his ceiling is somewhat limited based on size. Hopefully he can be a 33-35% shooter from distance and be a net-positive. 

LabattsBleu

June 23rd, 2021 at 12:14 PM ^

Thanks Matt 

That's fair; I suppose the point I was trying to make is that this kid has the skills to be in the top 60-75 by the time the final rankings come out... 

At 5' - 9"

That tells me a lot about his skill level, to be ranked that highly even at his height.  

Not too late for a late growth spurt either! ;)

Matt EM

June 23rd, 2021 at 12:20 PM ^

Definitely. Dug is a superb playmaker for others with great speed. Those are inherent traits you can't teach for the most part. It's just a matter of whether he has enough of that to overcome the size deficit. 

I like to think I'm good at what I do. But I'd be lying to say I'm overly confident in either direction of the net-positive/net-negative spectrum. My faith is in Juwan Howard to make it fit within the context of the team. The man has proven to be beyond reproach through 2 years. 

El Jeffe

June 23rd, 2021 at 11:32 AM ^

Matt, it seemed to me from my hazy memory of last year with Smith and even the year before with X that Howard runs high pick and roll not necessarily as the base action for the PG to finish with a floater or layup or lob to a rim runner, a la Young/Capela or Mitchell/Gobert or Morant/?, but more as a way to soften up the defense for a secondary action (that "go and catch" from the weak side that they often ran for Franz or Eli). 

Is that your sense, too? In other words, maybe being a dominant PnR player isn't so much what Howard is after, but a decent enough one to get things moving in the half court?

Matt EM

June 23rd, 2021 at 12:01 PM ^

Trust me, Juwan Howard wants to run PnR with a vertical lob threat to maximize the stress to opposing defenses. The issue is its tough to get players like Dereck Lively. You just don't have very many legit 7-footers with that level of athleticism at the college level.

So Juwan gets the next best thing, a legit 7-footer with back-to-the-basket scoring ability and vision (Hunter Dickinson). Our offense is definitely more post-heavy these days with Horns sets prominently featured. But Spain PnR, Pistol Action and standard PnR are still featured sets under Juwan Howard.

bronxblue

June 23rd, 2021 at 12:16 PM ^

This was the evaluation I expected to read, and gives a reasonable outline for Dug's time at UM.  I do wonder if his shot will take an uptick; if he really does get to ~35% from outside that'll open up a ton of options for him and the team even with his struggles to finish around the rim.  

bsand2053

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:27 PM ^

Does Dug have that lip curl/dog that so many of our point guards have been blessed with?  He certainly seems to play hard in the tape I’ve seen 

Goblueman

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:33 PM ^

Random Unrelated Question- Did every player from last year get a free covid year or just the Seniors? Specifically thinking of Brandon Johns,does he have 1 or 2 years of eligibility left? 

AlbanyBlue

June 23rd, 2021 at 2:41 PM ^

Thank you for the excellent write-up. You have given a clear understanding about how McDaniel will fit into the Howard system, and now it makes sense why we want him here. With a year of Camp Sanderson, his upside will increase.

Thanks for your continued stellar work here as well. 

remdog

June 23rd, 2021 at 5:15 PM ^

Dug's ceiling at the college level may be much higher than everybody thinks.  His athleticism with elite speed and hops can more than compensate for a lack of height, especially in transition. If he develops a respectable 3 point shot at a 35-40% level, his speed could be useful in the half court as well. I could easily see him terrorizing the opposition as a playmaker and scorer.