Throw a hand under that head as a double chin safety, bro. Can't be having a gobbler hanging in your pics on the interwebs. Chicks, man.
Hello: Jack Miller
|3*, #84 DE||3* DE||78, #44 DT|
Naturally, none of the gurus have Miller ranked at the position he's going to play in college - offensive line. As recently as last summer, he was a 6-4, 230lb tight end (that also seems to be when his father passed away, for which we offer our condolences). Notre Dame looked at him as a 3-4 DE, and he seems to be very versatile:
After transferring from St. Edward's High School in Lakewood, Ohio, where he started at defensive end his sophomore season, the 6-foot-4, 270-pounder started at both defensive end and offensive right tackle during his junior season at St. John's High School.
"Cincinnati offered me to play defensive end. Illinois, North Carolina and Pitt offered me to play center or guard. Northwestern and Boston College want me to play defensive tackle," said Miller. "I'd say I have about 17 or 18 offers."
When he talked to TomVH, he confirmed that Michigan wants him on OL, and divulged his measureables:
TOM: Where does Michigan see you fitting in?
JACK: They'r recruiting me for offensive guard, or center. I'm comfortable on the offensive side, and I really like the idea of playing offensive line for them.
TOM: Oh, wow. What is your height and weight right now, then? I think there's some varying numbers out there.
JACK: Yeah, I'm at 6-foot-4, and I weigh 270-pounds right now.
There's precious little about his actual game available, so here's ESPN's breakdown:
Offensive tackle is an option, but he seems like a better fit on defense. While he is solid at the end position it is hard to believe that he will not grow into a defensive tackle. He already is a fairly big kid and displays the frame to pack on more good size and will likely grow into a fulltime interior player sooner then later.
Most of the talk is about his defensive abilities (fairly polished, a number of pass-rush moves, but limited top-end speed), but we'll skip to the offensive part:
Offense is an option. He is a physical run blocker who gets hands on, but needs to watch his pad level. Miller is a good sized and physical kid who offers some versatility. He needs to keep developing aspects of his game, but we feel he should settle in well as a defensive lineman.
So I guess they really don't like him on the offensive line, though they only looked at him as a tackle, not a guard.
He evaluated his game (defensively only) in a free Scout article (H/T: UMGoBlog):
“Defensively, I bring a lot to the table,” Miller told Scout.com. “My technique is really what helps me. I can rush the pass real well, and I can stop the run. I’m a bigger, heavier defensive end which helps stopping the run. I can apply a lot of pressure to the quarterback.”
He also decided to quit basketball in order to focus on football.
His first offer didn't come until, February from Ball State (that's also when he visited Ann Arbor for Michigan's first Junior Day of the year). By the time he committed to Michigan, however, he had racked up enough offers to prove that he's no MAC-level prospect. Boston College was his other finalist, and he also turned down offers from most of the Big East, and Michigan's Big Ten brethren Illinois, Michigan State, and Northwestern, along with Stanford.
Aside from his self-reported 12 sacks, I couldn't find any junior stats on Miller. A common name mixed with a non-glamour position makes him tough to research.
FAKE 40 TIME
Rivals lists his 40 time at 4.78 seconds, which is pretty FAKE, especially if he's truly at 270 pounds. I'll give it four FAKEs out of five.
Ohio prospect = Scouting Ohio Video reel. I wish they'd improve their site design, though.
PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE
Since other schools seemed to be primarily recruiting him for defense, it's obvious that Miller has yet to specialize on the offensive side of the ball. That means, on top of the obligatory redshirt year for offensive linemen, it'll probably take him a little longer to settle in.
If he can focus on his work in the weightroom in the years that he doesn't see the field, he could develop into a very solid offensive lineman at the next level. By his redshirt junior year, the potential is there for him to become a regular contributor at guard or center, though I don't think he'll ever really challenge for top all-conference honors. He has the potential to be a solid, though never spectacular, Big Ten lineman.
UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS
Yay! Michigan finally landed an offensive lineman in a class that has a dire need for them! Miller should be just the first of four or five OL in this class. A couple more inside guys, and a couple outside guys are all likely to end up in the class.
At this time, Anthony Zettel and Tony Posada are looking like the most likely options that are already holding offers, but there are several other realistic prospects for the Wolverines. There's still a long way to signing day, so we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
Michigan is clearly pursuing a tight end in the class of 2011, with a number of offers out. Miller told Tom that he just so happens to be good friends with one of the Wolverines' top targets at the position, OH TE Ray Hamilton. Could Miller help bring his buddy into the fold?
With the pot belly making waves in New York last summer, Jack exhibits a fashion forward stature while keeping his hair in the present. The man's an innovator. Try to keep up.
Kid looks like a porker in that pic is all I'm saying. If he would have just DC saftey'd that bitch he wouldn't be looking like my Uncle Ernie there.
Damn, he's a big dude.
What are the chances he can redshirt and get a year of Barwis?
At least 100%. Possibly higher.
perchance does your chickenbroccolibake include rice and cheese? this is a delictable casserole and very avatar worthy.
My chickenbroccolibake lives on in my heart exactly as it did in the South Quad Kitchens from 2002-2006.
My attempts to make it myself just didn't have the same greasy goodness (and I even had the recipe sent to me by the SQuad dining hall manager).
Did you... even read the post?
Welcome aboard Jack, glad to have some OL talent!
Not to be Maize colored glasses guy, but if the kid has enough athleticism to get offers from some decent programs to play DE/DT, I think that his prospects at Oline are better than the solid contributor status he got tagged with. I would put him in the hopeful complete wildcard status. This is a kid you forget about for 2 years and when you see him blossom from the Barwis/Frey cocoon you see what you got. I'm very excited about this get.
There's a good chance he could be a pleasant surprise, but on the other hand there's a reason that Michigan was one of very few schools looking at him on the OL. We'll see how he performs on the field this fall, as we'll be watching him with a much more discriminating eye.
After his senior year, I reserve the right to adjust expectations accordingly.
but the two schools with fromer NFL head coaches also offered him as a OL.
Anthony Zettel, you are now on the clock.
Great to see one of those Hello: posts and can't wait to see more this summer. Great to have our first offensive lineman.
as a fellow of rotund proportions, i know there are certain angles that don't highlight your best features, but this picture makes him look pretty doughy. bring on the redshirt!
and don't hunt me down after.
I think it's mostly just a really unflattering picture. If you watch the video in the mgoboard thread on Miller, he doesn't look all that fat.
Yeah, I was going to say how it looks like the 30lbs he picked up must have been from playing video games and eating twinkies compared to the video and pics of him in his uni.
you posted of him in his uniform. not a lot of bad weight on his frame. that is(as u said)an unflattering picture IMO. not a lot of guys who are 6'4 DTs/OLINE and overweight stick around 270(see: taylor bible who showed up to texas spring practices at 320+....).
Lets keep the momentum going with a Hello: Kevin Sousa post in the near future. Crossing fingers.
For those still keeping track after the work day has ended, Scout's front page is now dropping hints that a Kevin Sousa commitment could come as early as... any time now.
Two commits would certainly make this a good day.
rivals reports there is two commits today.. hopefully we can get the ball rolling, nd catch up to neb. osu, nd even indiana numbers
My new favorite Wolverine as he is from my alma mater.
I like this commit too. This kid has speed, strength, and savy. Miller will be a DE sack master or a road grader on the OL. At '6 '4 he could be a TE too. Ahhhh! Versitility!
6'4 *270*. too big to play TE. if height were the only thing that mattered you would basically have 3 OTs rather than 2 OTs and a true TE. as basically everyone has already said, he'll redshirt and bulk up. im not disagreeing with the speed, strength, and savy(measured in...?) but i dont see him as a TE.
Looks like it's all from one game, and all offense. Makes little sense given they talk him up on D. He looks a little bored. Comparing both videos, he does stand up too much
But add in the camp video posted in another thread, and looks like a large kid who moves like an athlete. If he works, no reason to believe he can't be very good. Great pick up in this class
(video is linked in Tim's post, wait for the commercial to run)
Finally we get a OL. can't wait till Michigan wins games this year, we will be evading ohio big time this year and next year!!!
that he meant "invading" rather than evade. like from a recruiting standpoint
Welcome Jack! Have a wonderful and amazing 4/5 years at Michigan. If you can, tell Hamilton that he needs to come here too!