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According to both premium sites, OH OL Jack Miller has pledged to the MIchigan Wolverines, becoming the sixth member of the class of 2011.

INFORMATIVE PORTION

jackmiller.jpg

GURU RATINGS

Scout Rivals ESPN
3*, #84 DE 3* DE 78, #44 DT

Naturally, none of the gurus have Miller ranked at the position he's going to play in college - offensive line. As recently as last summer, he was a 6-4, 230lb tight end (that also seems to be when his father passed away, for which we offer our condolences). Notre Dame looked at him as a 3-4 DE, and he seems to be very versatile:

After transferring from St. Edward's High School in Lakewood, Ohio, where he started at defensive end his sophomore season, the 6-foot-4, 270-pounder started at both defensive end and offensive right tackle during his junior season at St. John's High School.

"Cincinnati offered me to play defensive end. Illinois, North Carolina and Pitt offered me to play center or guard. Northwestern and Boston College want me to play defensive tackle," said Miller. "I'd say I have about 17 or 18 offers."

When he talked to TomVH, he confirmed that Michigan wants him on OL, and divulged his measureables:

TOM: Where does Michigan see you fitting in?

JACK: They'r recruiting me for offensive guard, or center. I'm comfortable on the offensive side, and I really like the idea of playing offensive line for them.

TOM: Oh, wow. What is your height and weight right now, then? I think there's some varying numbers out there.

JACK: Yeah, I'm at 6-foot-4, and I weigh 270-pounds right now.

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There's precious little about his actual game available, so here's ESPN's breakdown:

Offensive tackle is an option, but he seems like a better fit on defense. While he is solid at the end position it is hard to believe that he will not grow into a defensive tackle. He already is a fairly big kid and displays the frame to pack on more good size and will likely grow into a fulltime interior player sooner then later.

Most of the talk is about his defensive abilities (fairly polished, a number of pass-rush moves, but limited top-end speed), but we'll skip to the offensive part:

Offense is an option. He is a physical run blocker who gets hands on, but needs to watch his pad level. Miller is a good sized and physical kid who offers some versatility. He needs to keep developing aspects of his game, but we feel he should settle in well as a defensive lineman.

So I guess they really don't like him on the offensive line, though they only looked at him as a tackle, not a guard.

He evaluated his game (defensively only) in a free Scout article (H/T: UMGoBlog):

“Defensively, I bring a lot to the table,” Miller told Scout.com. “My technique is really what helps me. I can rush the pass real well, and I can stop the run. I’m a bigger, heavier defensive end which helps stopping the run. I can apply a lot of pressure to the quarterback.”

He also decided to quit basketball in order to focus on football.

OFFERS

His first offer didn't come until, February from Ball State (that's also when he visited Ann Arbor for Michigan's first Junior Day of the year). By the time he committed to Michigan, however, he had racked up enough offers to prove that he's no MAC-level prospect. Boston College was his other finalist, and he also turned down offers from most of the Big East, and Michigan's Big Ten brethren Illinois, Michigan State, and Northwestern, along with Stanford.

STATS

Aside from his self-reported 12 sacks, I couldn't find any junior stats on Miller. A common name mixed with a non-glamour position makes him tough to research.

FAKE 40 TIME

Rivals lists his 40 time at 4.78 seconds, which is pretty FAKE, especially if he's truly at 270 pounds. I'll give it four FAKEs out of five.

VIDEO

Ohio prospect = Scouting Ohio Video reel. I wish they'd improve their site design, though.

PREDICTION BASED ON FLIMSY EVIDENCE

Since other schools seemed to be primarily recruiting him for defense, it's obvious that Miller has yet to specialize on the offensive side of the ball. That means, on top of the obligatory redshirt year for offensive linemen, it'll probably take him a little longer to settle in.

If he can focus on his work in the weightroom in the years that he doesn't see the field, he could develop into a very solid offensive lineman at the next level. By his redshirt junior year, the potential is there for him to become a regular contributor at guard or center, though I don't think he'll ever really challenge for top all-conference honors. He has the potential to be a solid, though never spectacular, Big Ten lineman.

UPSHOT FOR THE REST OF THE CLASS

Yay! Michigan finally landed an offensive lineman in a class that has a dire need for them! Miller should be just the first of four or five OL in this class. A couple more inside guys, and a couple outside guys are all likely to end up in the class.

At this time, Anthony Zettel and Tony Posada are looking like the most likely options that are already holding offers, but there are several other realistic prospects for the Wolverines. There's still a long way to signing day, so we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.

ETC

Michigan is clearly pursuing a tight end in the class of 2011, with a number of offers out. Miller told Tom that he just so happens to be good friends with one of the Wolverines' top targets at the position, OH TE Ray Hamilton. Could Miller help bring his buddy into the fold?

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:06 PM | Throw a hand under that head (Score:1)
His Dudeness
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Throw a hand under that head as a double chin safety, bro. Can't be having a gobbler hanging in your pics on the interwebs. Chicks, man.  

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:15 PM | The next stage in fashion evolution (Score:1)
CO Blue
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With the pot belly making waves in New York last summer, Jack exhibits a fashion forward stature while keeping his hair in the present. The man's an innovator. Try to keep up.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/fashion/13POTBELLY.html?_r=4&scp=1&sq=hip%20to%20be%20round&st=cse?no_interstitial

"It is a characteristic of wisdom not to do desperate things"
 

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June 30th, 2010 at 4:21 PM | Kid looks like a porker in (Score:1)
His Dudeness
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Kid looks like a porker in that pic is all I'm saying. If he would have just DC saftey'd that bitch he wouldn't be looking like my Uncle Ernie there.

or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:19 PM | Damn (Score:1)
philibuster
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Damn, he's a big dude.

What are the chances he can redshirt and get a year of Barwis?

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:22 PM | Simple Conjecture (Score:1)
chickenbroccolibake
Joined: 11/11/2009
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At least 100%.  Possibly higher.

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:09 PM | perchance does your (Score:1)
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perchance does your chickenbroccolibake include rice and cheese?  this is a delictable casserole and very avatar worthy.

Auwê ka hua`i lâ

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:17 PM | My chickenbroccolibake (Score:1)
chickenbroccolibake
Joined: 11/11/2009
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My chickenbroccolibake lives on in my heart exactly as it did in the South Quad Kitchens from 2002-2006.

My attempts to make it myself just didn't have the same greasy goodness (and I even had the recipe sent to me by the SQuad dining hall manager).

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:27 PM | Did you... even read the (Score:1)
Tim
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Did you... even read the post?

Yeastbound and Down

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:39 PM | Are you kidding? (Score:1)
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No time! Too many quips!

http://pbloem.blogspot.com/ | @pnbloem | Ultra-MGoBoard

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:52 PM | Yes. And... no. I was just (Score:1)
philibuster
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Yes. And... no. I was just worried about depth at Center. I neg myself...

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:38 PM | Welcome aboard Jack, glad to (Score:1)
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Welcome aboard Jack, glad to have some OL talent!

Colors That Float

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:40 PM | Upside? (Score:1)
Ziff72
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Not to be Maize colored glasses guy, but if the kid has enough athleticism to get offers from some decent programs to play DE/DT, I think that his prospects at Oline are better than the solid contributor status he got tagged with.   I would put him in the hopeful complete wildcard status.   This is a kid you forget about for 2 years and when you see him blossom from the Barwis/Frey cocoon you see what you got.  I'm very excited about this get.   

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:48 PM | There's a good chance he (Score:1)
Tim
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There's a good chance he could be a pleasant surprise, but on the other hand there's a reason that Michigan was one of very few schools looking at him on the OL. We'll see how he performs on the field this fall, as we'll be watching him with a much more discriminating eye.

After his senior year, I reserve the right to adjust expectations accordingly.

Yeastbound and Down

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:52 PM | Most of his offers may have been for DL.. (Score:1)
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but the two schools with fromer NFL head coaches also offered him as a OL.

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:50 PM | This should... (Score:1)
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...serve as a notice to the other OL prospects: spots are filling - don't hold out too long or you may do yourself a disservice.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | Maize Pages Wolverines on Twitter | @MGoShoe

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June 29th, 2010 at 6:20 PM | Hint, Hint...nudge, nudge (Score:1)
Logan88
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Anthony Zettel, you are now on the clock.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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June 29th, 2010 at 4:56 PM | Great to see (Score:1)
brice5
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Great to see one of those Hello: posts and can't wait to see more this summer. Great to have our first offensive lineman.

http://www.bricesrecruiting.blogspot.com/

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:04 PM | OMG Fleeced! (Score:1)
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OMG Fleeced!

as a fellow of rotund proportions, i know there are certain angles that don't highlight your best features, but this picture makes him look pretty doughy.  bring on the redshirt!

and don't hunt me down after.

Auwê ka hua`i lâ

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:18 PM | I think it's mostly just a (Score:1)
Tim
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I think it's mostly just a really unflattering picture. If you watch the video in the mgoboard thread on Miller, he doesn't look all that fat.

Yeastbound and Down

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June 29th, 2010 at 7:13 PM | Yeah, I was going to say how (Score:1)
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Yeah, I was going to say how it looks like the 30lbs he picked up must have been from playing video games and eating twinkies compared to the video and pics of him in his uni.

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June 30th, 2010 at 2:49 AM | or look @ the pic (Score:1)
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you posted of him in his uniform. not a lot of bad weight on his frame. that is(as u said)an unflattering picture IMO. not a lot of guys who are 6'4 DTs/OLINE and overweight stick around 270(see: taylor bible who showed up to texas spring practices at 320+....).

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:09 PM | Sweet news (Score:1)
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Welcome Jack.

Lets keep the momentum going with a Hello: Kevin Sousa post in the near future. Crossing fingers.

They mostly come at night... mostly.

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:34 PM | For those still keeping track (Score:1)
Tim
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For those still keeping track after the work day has ended, Scout's front page is now dropping hints that a Kevin Sousa commitment could come as early as... any time now.

Yeastbound and Down

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:41 PM | Two commits would certainly (Score:1)
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Two commits would certainly make this a good day.

Special Teams means special times!

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June 29th, 2010 at 5:54 PM | rivals reports there is two (Score:1)
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rivals reports there is two commits today.. hopefully we can get the ball rolling, nd catch up to neb. osu, nd even indiana numbers

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June 29th, 2010 at 7:42 PM | My new favorite Wolverine as (Score:1)
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My new favorite Wolverine as he is from my alma mater.

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June 29th, 2010 at 8:35 PM | Miller is Versitile! (Score:1)
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I like this commit too. This kid has speed, strength, and savy. Miller will be a DE sack master or a road grader on the OL. At '6 '4 he could be a TE too. Ahhhh! Versitility!

"To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield" --Alfred Lord Tennyson/ John Sheridan B5

 

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June 30th, 2010 at 2:44 AM | 6'4 (Score:1)
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Joined: 02/20/2010
MGoPoints: 87

6'4 *270*. too big to play TE. if height were the only thing that mattered you would basically have 3 OTs rather than 2 OTs and a true TE. as basically everyone has already said, he'll redshirt and bulk up. im not disagreeing with the speed, strength, and savy(measured in...?) but i dont see him as a TE.

Hook 'em Horns

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June 29th, 2010 at 10:31 PM | ESPN has some useless video... (Score:1)
Bodogblog
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Joined: 06/08/2010
MGoPoints: 6878

Looks like it's all from one game, and all offense.  Makes little sense given they talk him up on D.  He looks a little bored.  Comparing both videos, he does stand up too much  

But add in the camp video posted in another thread, and looks like a large kid who moves like an athlete.  If he works, no reason to believe he can't be very good.  Great pick up in this class

(video is linked in Tim's post, wait for the commercial to run)

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June 29th, 2010 at 10:34 PM | Jack Miller (Score:1)
john22
Joined: 06/09/2010
MGoPoints: 870

Finally we get a OL. can't wait till Michigan wins games this year, we will be evading ohio big time this year and next year!!!

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June 30th, 2010 at 10:34 AM | why would we evade Ohio? (Score:1)
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Joined: 06/30/2008
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our package is our package, and it’s pretty big. - Greg Mattison, Bowl Practice Presser Tr. 12-13-11.

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June 30th, 2010 at 11:08 AM | i *think* (Score:1)
burntorange wit...
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Joined: 02/20/2010
MGoPoints: 87

that he meant "invading" rather than evade. like from a recruiting standpoint

Hook 'em Horns

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June 30th, 2010 at 2:29 PM | Welcome home! (Score:1)
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Joined: 07/02/2008
MGoPoints: 495

Welcome Jack!  Have a wonderful and amazing 4/5 years at Michigan.  If you can, tell Hamilton that he needs to come here too!

 

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