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Future Hoops Originals: Dug McDaniel Comment Count

Matt EM December 13th, 2021 at 8:43 AM

I made it to the DMV-area a few weeks back to get a detailed evaluation for 2022 signee Dug McDaniel of Paul VI Catholic (PVI) at the National High School Hoops Festival. This was a great opportunity to get an updated look at Dug against solid competition. 

On Saturday, PVI squared off against The Patrick School featuring 2024 James Moore (top-40 nationally), 3-star junior Jahlil Bethea and senior PG Dionte Johnson (multiple LM-MM D1 offers). 

Archbishop Spalding was the opponent on Sunday, headlined by 5-star wing and Villanova signee Cam Whitmore along with senior guards Jordan Pennick and C.J. Scott (both hold multiple LM-MM D1 offers).

I've seen McDaniel no less than 15 times in the last year, so the evaluation structure is going to be a bit different this time since his performance this time around was more or less the same as it has been on prior occasion. Less in the way of results/analysis and more projection for his tenure in Ann Arbor.

 

PLAYMAKING FOR OTHERS

No doubt about it, this is the best attribute of Dug's game. McDaniel displayed every pass you can fathom. Look-off dimes, precision bounce-pass dumpoffs, one-hand cross-court passes.............you name it, he's got it. The spatial awareness was generally superb and he consistently found teammates with accurate passes that placed them in scoring position.

Dug's shot-creating ability for others is aided by his acceleration + speed, where he can get a step on defenders in the blink of an eye. That forces help defense and gives him the requisite openings to create these shots for others. He is the epitome of a playmaker for others in both half-court settings and in transition. Simply put, he makes others better in an entertaining way. 

 

SHOOTING

Let's get right to it, since this is probably the skill facet the overwhelming majority want to tackle. McDaniel went 0/5 from distance and 1/3 on midrange pull-ups during the two games I viewed. No real need to go in-depth here. Dug has been a below-average/average shooter during every live viewing I've had over the last year and that remained true on this occasion. The shot mechanics need a bit of work, but they aren't what I'd label as poor by any means. 

[Hit THE JUMP for the full breakdown.]

FINISHING

This is the absolutely the area with the most room for improvement. Here's the breakdown in finishing splits:

3/5 - restricted area twos 

3/12 - non-restricted area twos

I find the distribution in shot-types to be more interesting than the actual results. In 17 attempts, Dug essentially had to take other twos (Brian is somewhere cringing) 71% of the time. Functionally, this says he's too small to get all the way to the rim and finish. Particularly considering neither opponent had a legit rim-protecting center. 

McDaniel simply doesn't have the body type or strength that Frankie Collins possesses, so we can't expect him to do it as effectively, but I'd like to see Dug draw contact at a higher rate. That starts with jumping on-balance, with two legs and getting into the chest of the defender. In other words, embrace contact and get to the FT line. Far too often, McDaniel has wild attempts in the paint that are off-balance and have zero chance of going in. Dug is going to need a ton of improvement in this area at the college level. 

 

OFF-BALL DEFENSE

PVI utilized a funky zone for almost the entire game on Sunday and for significant stretches on Saturday, so an examination of off-ball defense is what we're left with for purposes of this evaluation. You can see the acceleration on full display in the first possession of the clip above. Dug gets beat on a jab step and is badly out of position but quickly recovers to deflect the kickout to the corner.

The rest of the possessions have a theme. McDaniel dies on screens and generally gets lost off the ball. This is an effort and awareness issue. In fairness, off-ball defense is something most HS prospects struggle with so I'm not going to overstate the issue.

 

TURNOVERS

Dug isn't a huge TO risk, but he does turn the ball over like any high-volume point guard. His inherent style of play, fast pace with passes in tight windows, means this is the cost of doing business. Some of his turnovers are a natural consequence of defenses not respecting his scoring ability. Opposing bigs are dropping back against ballscreens and sitting in passing lanes, basically daring him to attempt a layup or floater. 

 

PROJECTION/FIT AT MICHIGAN

Early Impact or Not?

Assuming Michigan has Frankie Collins for a few more years, McDaniel has the feel of a developmental project that isn't likely to be an impact rotational player until he's a junior. Dug doesn't bring anything additional to the table in relation to Collins right now and is lagging behind from a physical perspective. Additionally, he's not versatile enough to play off-ball, so McDaniel is exclusively a point guard for the Wolverines. I'd expect spot duty as a freshman (perhaps a redshirt depending on Bufkin/Zeb) and limited action in year two before breaking through as a guy that plays 15+ minutes per game as a junior. That's ideal for the team, as it would give Dug time to make physical gains and improve his jumper. 

 

Will He Be A Good Jumpshooter?

From a percentage standpoint, probably not. But that doesn't mean he can't be effective. Because of his size (or lack of) and play-style, McDaniel probably won't take many catch and shoot threes. Because of that we're looking at a kid that will take pull-ups (which aren't percentage friendly) off the bounce. Coach Howard just needs him to hit those shot attempts at a clip that prevents the opposition from going under screens so that his playmaking can be optimized. That probably looks like 31-35% from distance with some midrange jumpers sprinkled in. 

 

Will The Playmaking Translate In The B10?

Yes. The Wolverines have made a living on undersized PGs with great shot-creation ability for others. Simpson, Walton and even Jones to a certain extent are all excellent in terms of playmaking for the team. Dug's passing chops are absolutely legit. It has been consistent regardless of competition level/size/athleticism and I expect that continue in Ann Arbor. Spatial awareness cannot be taught and McDaniel possesses that trait in a way that very few other HS prospects do. 

 

What About The Defensive End?

McDaniel is a considerable upgrade in terms of agility + speed when compared to Jones/Smith/Brooks. And with that he's better equipped to stay in front of the average guards in the B10. He embraces on-ball defense and I'm guessing that is a big part of the appeal for Juwan Howard. He also has active hands and will jump passing lanes for deflections + turnovers.

But there are inherent limitations with 5'9 guards that simply can't be overcome. Against bigger guards (think Jaden Ivey/Ayo Dosunmu types) Dug is likely to struggle considering he's giving up 5-7 inches and 25-30 pounds. He's going to be bullied occasionally on straight line drives and bigger guards are going to shoot over him. 

I do like the potential here in terms of applying full-court pressure. McDaniel has some Russ Smith (Louisville) qualities with his combination of speed + low center of gravity that can make life hell for ballhandlers as a change of pace in spurts. 

 

Will The Finishing Be Adequate?

That's a no for me. Dug is already undersized in terms of size/length/mass in addition to being a finesse finisher that looks to avoid contact. Sub 6-footers are rarely good finishers in the B10 and we're talking about a kid that is 5'10 at best and no more than 160 pounds. He's simply not going to find much success against guys that are literally a full foot taller with a 70-80 pound weight advantage.

What we want is Dug to be such a passing threat once he gets two feet in the paint that opposing bigs sag back to deter the dumpoff pass and that gives McDaniel the necessary space to get off a clean floater. So the best possible outcome here is for the coaching staff to help McDaniel develop a legit floater that is on-balance while getting him to jump into the defender's chest to occasionally force fouls.

 

Comments

ypsituckyboy

December 13th, 2021 at 8:47 AM ^

Seems like McDaniel could be a great piece on a number of teams, but Michigan desperately needs shooting from the PG position. This is a huge problem.

IIRC Greg Glenn is also a below-average shooter. No idea what the thought process is from the coaching staff here.

Matt EM

December 13th, 2021 at 9:06 AM ^

Now that we're a few recruiting cycles in, I think Juwan Howard has some similarities to Louisville under Rick Pitino in terms of preferred roster construction with some differences (Juwan will take a skilled center rather than pure rim protector). Let's take a look at the 2013 squad that beat Michigan and compare

1 Undersized Guard with speed + average shooting:

Russ Smith/Dug McDaniel

1 Designated Shooter with limited athleticism:

Luke Hancock/Caleb Houstan

Jumbo Wings with Shot Creating Ability/Crash The Glass

Wayne Blackshear + Chane Behanan/Jett Howard + Gregg Glenn

1 Rim Protecting Center

Gorgui Dieng/Dickinson + Diabate

 

mwolverine1

December 13th, 2021 at 9:28 AM ^

One difference I see is that Louisville's guards at that time (Russ Smith and Peyton Siva) could get buckets (Smith especially). I'm not sure I see the same scoring potential from Collins and McDaniel.

What do you think of Tarris Reed's rim protection? It seems likely he's thrust into the starting role immediately as a freshman.

ldevon1

December 14th, 2021 at 8:45 AM ^

Houstan - Have you watched the games

Barnes - He is redshirting

Tschetter - redshirting

Bufkin - He obviously isn't shooting consistently enough to get off of the bench

Jett - So we have to wait next year and put our hopes on a freshman to provide a consistent shooting threat? 

Where is Houstan gonna go? If he isn't shooting damn near 35% the NBA isn't interested. 

ypsituckyboy

December 13th, 2021 at 9:33 AM ^

I kinda see what you're saying, but Russ and Siva were both fringe NBA players. Russ shot 39% from 3 his senior year.

Only thing I know is that Minnesota was leaving Jones and Collins wide open with relative frequency because they know they can't shoot. That creates more gravity toward Dickinson and doesn't punish that kinda cheating on defense. Not saying every guy needs to be a sniper, but you've gotta have guards that can make the defense pay when left wide open.

Matt EM

December 13th, 2021 at 9:44 AM ^

Yes, they were fringe NBA players.............as seniors. Collins is a true freshman and Jones is a grad transfer that hasn't quite worked out just yet. We need to give Frankie some time. 

Michigan is actually a better team this season in relation to 2021 in terms of net impact from beyond the arch (basically accounting for defense). We're a +8 in terms of 3% (difference between our 3% and opponent 3%).

The real dropoff this year? Our 2pt defense has fallen off a cliff. Jones/Eli/Houstan are getting roasted in a major way.

Our isolation defense is literally 2nd percentile in the country and our defense against PnR ballhandlers is 6th percentile.

I think some are probably programmed to see hoops through sort of a Beilein lens, and understandably so. But the defense is the absolutely the biggest issue on this team. 

Matt EM

December 13th, 2021 at 10:09 AM ^

THIS. I was probably lower on Caleb Houstan than anyone, but I'd be lying to say I saw a dropoff this large. But Caleb is starting to show signs of progress defensively of late. He's still very much a sub-par defender, but if he can just get to adequate that helps the team immensely.

The biggest thing the team lacks is someone that can defend 6'3 - 6'7 perimeter shot creators. We have exactly 1 in Moussa Diabate. We may have another in Zeb Jackson, but he's currently out of the rotation. This is where Chaundee Brown's departure hurts as well. 

San Diego Mick

December 13th, 2021 at 5:13 PM ^

I gotta disagree Matt,  Jones has been terrible at setting guys up, in fact, my eyes tell me he is putrid at it,. Maybe the numbers say something different but the spacing and movements are atrocious because he's not good at passing and guys are not working hard enough to get open, too much standing around. 

Houstan has been quite awful frankly, he plays too nonchalantly for a not so athletic guy,he just doesn't look like he's hustling hard enough.  His shot has been awful for a guy who is supposed to be good at it, except for a couple of games. 

Finally, Dug does not inspire good feels for me, we need shooters and you see how not having a good shooter at PG is affecting us so negatively this year.

 

njvictor

December 13th, 2021 at 10:44 AM ^

I trust Juwan, but I have been and still am a bit worried on how he's constructed the roster. Gonna need Bufkin, Barnes, and Jett to step up next year as shooters because if Juwan thinks guys like Terrance Williams are passable shooters to give us enough spacing and fire power to keep up with good teams, then that's an issue

blueheron

December 13th, 2021 at 10:20 AM ^

I appreciate the usual sober analysis. I thought this made a lot of sense:

"So the best possible outcome here is for the coaching staff to help McDaniel develop a legit floater that is on-balance while getting him to jump into the defender's chest to occasionally force fouls."

In case anyone would like to see a display of Dug's athleticism in another context, this (which was posted on the board at some point) is a good example:

https://twitter.com/brhoops/status/1443652648712867877

njvictor

December 13th, 2021 at 10:39 AM ^

I've never been super high on Dug and the fact that there hasn't been much growth doesn't make me any more optimistic. Especially given what we've seen from the team this year, having another PG who can't shoot and also struggles to even get high percentage shots off definitely makes me cringe a bit

Durham Blue

December 13th, 2021 at 1:13 PM ^

I get the impression that we have shooters on the current roster, but they're just not making shots at the clip that is needed (Johns, Houstan, Brooks).  I thought the issue was not having a reliable and highly athletic PG that can effectively lead the offense, move/distribute the ball and not turn it over a ton or get into early foul trouble.  If I am off base then fine.

And why are the shooters not making shots, even when wide open?

ldevon1

December 14th, 2021 at 8:50 AM ^

Johns isn't and has never been a shooter. Hell he isn't even a good basketball player right now. Houstan has been in a shooting slump since the Olympics, so maybe the increase in competition is a direct correlation to his shooting woes. Eli is just a role player. He has never been a guy to carry an offense for any amount of time. He can hit a couple of 3's and a couple of runners, but you need a guy to average 14 - 17 pts that scares a defense with his 3 pt shooting. We don't have that. 

LabattsBleu

December 13th, 2021 at 4:28 PM ^

good stuff matt... i like the idea he has great spatial awareness... shots can be fixed (a little at least) so hopefully, that will be a point of emphasis moving forward. Being able to make the open jumpshot is huge for this offense

poppinfresh

December 13th, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^

It can both be true that juwan has been great and that this years result and future roster construction are slightly concerning. Tho agree the D is our biggest problem this year. 

Limited shooting teams leave less ways to win. Not writing off that it cant improve, but it’s ok for people to raise concerns about the teams shooting potential and it’s potential impact going forward while not be labeled crazy.