Meta: If you could change 1 thing about MGoBlog, what would it be?
I'm on your side here. While I don't necessarily rethink an opinion, I do rethink my argument when I get negged. I had a minus 8 or so post about Seantrel Henderson a couple weeks ago, and seeing that made me realize that while my opinion is probably pretty benign, my argument was much to negative to heap on an 18 year old kid.
Points help encourage introspection.
Points help encourage introspection, for those that are capable of introspection. For everyone else, they just get more negs. For the most part, I think the point system is working.
I like the points thing to a degree. I do think however going from 150 points to not being able to post and being in the negatives because you said "I would rather embarrass Ohio State is kinda i dont know dumb? Wouldnt you rather embarrass them than beat them?
...you drop the "poor me" routine, you will continue to get negged.
I can't speak to your earlier post since I don't recall it, but if what you say is accurate, it may have been one of the infrequent but not unheard of unwarranted pile on negbombs. Your mistake is continuing to complain about it. That is a sure fire recipe for identification by many as "neg on sight" or NOS.
Look, you're at -20 (now). That's not an insurmountable hole to climb out of. OTOH, if you continue to complain about being in the hole, you will only dig yourself deeper and deeper until eventually you will sink into MGoOblivion.
Best of luck to you.
Points are far too valuable for dissuading trolls, keeping me from having to pay for spam-blocking, allowing a reasonable wiki framework to exist, and seriously pissing off people who use "Spartina" to ever go away.
I am working on making them better, FWIW, but they are permanent.
having the points expire after 6 months or a year or so? Keep a rolling list so that user generated content can be monitored more closely than by simply volume of posts over a long period of time.
but what the hell would Magnus and Shoe be doing without 84 000 combined points?
No, if the point of MGoPoints is discouraging trolls, then why does a user with 5000 points who doesn't post frequently for a year make him a potential troll?
I think a good solution to this would similar to the Slashdot moderating system. People increase their karma based on positive votes, but instead of just a running point total, posters reach certain discrete ranks. Eventually posters reach the top level and can go no higher. This would solve MGoPeen problem (once you've reached the top level there is no difference from anyone else at that level), but there would still be consequences if they went Tom Hagen on us.
would the top level be called "Magnus"?
It used to be that way. Those were the days.
Keep talking about points Chitown--or making fun of Uruguay--and I will personally stalk all your posts and neg bang you into KOB territory.
Disagree. I think the points system is a good thing because if you have a decent number of points, people know most likely you are a respectable member of society. Therefore your posts will probably be something worth reading or at least respectable. If someone has negative points, generally they are an idiot and you can pass by whatever noise they are making.
More Cowbell !!!!!!!!! Gotta have more Cowbell
Sorry buddy, beat ya to it
IF'n I could change anyything, I'd get all my points back
Am I right or am I wrong?
Holy crap, I didn't know anyone else knew of its existence.
1) More REASONS to break out the muppets (obvs. something we can't control)
2) LOWER PAD LEVEL.
(Sorry. Someone had to)
agreed on both points.
by the way, is that why you slapped my brother around in public?
can you describe exactly what this tab was? It is probably a permission I turned off but I'm not sure which one.
For a normal account (perhaps site owner's are different?) the top left box after sign in has "my account" followed by "recent posts." Clicking on recent posts allows you to track all recent posts. There is a second tab labelled "my recent posts." Clicking on this gives the reply, "The requested page could not be found."
under "Recent Posts" are two tabs. The one to the left (and that is active) is "All Recent Posts" and to the right of that is "My Recent Posts." Clicking of that one, I get "Page Not Found"
I think Zone Left and MGoShoe both are seeing the same thing I am.
My MgoPoints under My Account shows your posts. If you click the title it takes you to that post in that thread and any potential replies.
edit: Not under MgoPoints, just My account. And, this worked last night but not today, weird.
I dont like the neg thing, perhaps its because I am in the negatives myself. I at one time had around 150 points and in one thread went down to -12 and can no longer post. I think that is a little rediculous. The reason I went down so far is because I said that in a Michigan-OSU game you would rather embarrass your oppenent rahter than simply beat them. I think most people would agree with me, but it somehow got around -30 something points. When I tried to defend that statement every single defense got negged even worse. I dont really think thats a real reason to get neg banged. Most people will agree we would rather beat OSU by 50 points than 3 points. So I'm not quite sure why I lost 160 points? Thats just me though. Now I cant post and I made an intresting article about Kevin Sousa that I had to make my own blog to put up (http://michiganfootballblog10.blogspot.com/) beacause I cannot post on this one. Obviously I will get negged even more in this post because I am complaining about the points. That is my opinion though.
Or, you could try posting less trash.
Explain to me exactly what the trash I was posting is and I will think about it?
You just typed out an entire paragraph whining/explaining why you get neg'ed. It's so hopeless off the topic of this thread that I would call it trash. There is some reason why you got neg'ed last time and while you are free to say your thoughts on the point system, you don't need to re-hash some older thread.
Also, next time you want to pimp your website, put a little effort into making it look like you didn't plan it out.
So me saying I dont like the points system does not go along with "what would you change about mgoblog"
I believe thats actually exactly what the thread was about. I wasnt whining about me being negged. I was saying that people neg for stupid reasons. And its stupid that people get negged for saying something that everyone will agree with and then get there posting rights taken away.
But me saying I would change the points system has everything to do with "what would you change about the blog"
So maybe you should think your next comeback out a little more clearly?
EDIT: I dont care if I planned out "pimping" my website or not. People will look at it. Thats all I wanted, so mission accomplished, even if your highness doesnt aprove.
It seems that people here are happy to read alternative views and yours would be as valuable as any. There is a rather interesting etiquette that permeates the MGoBlogosphere and it is heavily policed. That is, if you make a comment and it is significantly negged then you need to walk away from it. This doesn't mean that you can't comment on some other matter and, honestly, nobody will see you +/- as any better or worse but in terms of that original negged post the blogosphere has spoken (harshly) and you just move on.
It's the democracy of the blog in action; also, it appears that nobody much wants to read a spirited defense of a highly negged post. That's pretty reasonable in my opinion.
I don't mind a spirited defense, I'll generally +1 if they're making coherent posts and not taking an indefensible position.
However, posting, getting negbanged, then posting about getting negbanged is just dumb. That's when the system works its best.
Poker is a game that has been proven time and time again that the person that plays the game better will win the most money. However, it is also a very unforgiving game, one in which even playing the game absolutely perfect can leave you going home broke. This is to be expected, so the professional will simply leave and go to the next game, approaching the game the same way. The alternative is to go on tilt, get angry that others played the game horribly, and curse about the way it ended up. This will often make their game worse, where they then play poorly and continue to lose.
Don't be the guy that goes on tilt here.
Yes, it sucks that you got negged for what I think was a harmless and even true comment. However, people won't sympathize with you for asking people why, arguing about it, and even complaining about how it isn't fair. Rather, continue to contribute meaningful input that people like to read and your points will eventually increase. If you look at Chitown's post above you, he agrees that the point system is stupid. While he has plenty of naysayers, including me, he didn't lose many points because he gave rational reasons for his opinion. Assuming the people voting you up in the first place weren't just your friends and family feeling sorry for you, you'll get back to the level you were at if you use patience and discipline.
I understand all that. I really do. It just pissed me off that I cant post anymore. sorry for the ranting. Neg away.
fyi, i didn't waste my time negging your posts, but give it up already. What don't you understand?
To use another (albeit dated) analogy, "the tribe has spoken." iirc, when someone was voted off survivor island, they were just gone, with no recourse. When you are negged, let it go. You have been "voted off the island." Do something else several days, stop posting so much, and eventually, you can post again. The tribe will allow it.
To stretch the Survivor analogy, didn't some iterations of the show allow those who had been voted off to return? When you come back with intelligent comments, that's exactly what the mgoblog island will do. If you continue to be a jerk, some people will hold it against you.
You know, almost all of us say stupid things. If I really cared to wrack my brain cells, I could recall some of them, and tie them to a specific poster. But really, I think it's best to forget. Lord knows, I want people to forget the stupid things I've posted. Even Brian has posted stupid things (cf., Demar Dorsey, Athletic Admin, and Admissions.) So what. We all need a pass. And truly, it doesn't matter who someone is - if Brian, Tom, Shoe, Magnus, et al post something stupid and offensive, they SHOULD be negged.
BTW, if any of the mods want to dock me a grand of points and give them to Bolton22, I would be fine. It means more to him than it does to me.
I am tired of snobby MGoBlog people that think they know it all so I am making my own blog. Be sure to leave comments. PS: I am not a very good blogger, I have posted things on MGoBlog that have been ripped by the mass public. I do however think I am not that bad, although I do tend to post obvious and non controversial things. For a 16 year old kid living in MEMPHIS, TN I would say im not too bad of a blogger.
Perhaps long-term discussion threads above the actual board. Brian already made a nod to this idea by creating the depth chart link, but other popular topics could have long-term threads to allow them to remain on the front page of the site without clogging the board.
For example, after hockey lost in the tournament, there were probably twenty threads angrily discussing the game, the IQ of the ref, and even how to teepee his house. Placing a "bitching" thread permanently on the front page could allow those of us who are angry to vent while keeping new content near the top of the board. After a couple days, the thread could be taken down.
Other, more long-term threads could include: recruiting threads, scheduling threads, discussions about upcoming games.
Mods would be responsible for establishing and removing the permanent threads. "Trusted User" status is probably not enough.
Thoughts?
I like the idea of a "bitching" tab specifically - that would cycle out a lot of threads
This is a good idea but needs a framework like PHPBB or something; drupal's forum software, even the advanced stuff, is ill-prepared to handle this sort of thing.
I guess I envisioned a second MGoBoard with more stringent thread creation privileges. Perhaps my pitch was too complicated? I know nothing about forum software, so I don't understand Drupal's limitations.
MWolverine's orginal request: very difficult to do without support from Drupal. However, logged-in users can set the comment threads to show 300 comments at a time, which just about kills any multiple page threads.
could be expanded beyond 10 topics. As more people join the site, there are more and more threads and that page cycles too quickly. Perhaps expand it to the 20 most recent
And Brian if you can work in any more uses of the phrase "lamentations of the women", I'd appreciate that.
It will change your life!!!
To add onto OMGshirtless' response, you can check out the primary board page here (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard) which is also linked in the site's main navigation panel.
Adding a place where you could easily view people who have replied to something that you have written.
In a long discussion, it does take some time to scroll through the various levels / pages of comments before you get to the comment you have made and then are able to see the way in which people have reply to "said" comment.
Thanks!
I didnt real all 3 pages but a private message feature and a way to email other users.