Browns DC Gregg Williams praises Jabrill Peppers amidst criticism
The Browns are 0-3 and Jabrill Peppers is getting a lot of the blame from Browns's fans.
Via Dawgs By Nature:
Peppers really hurt us in the first half.
I said when Peppers was drafted — and keeping in mind my Buckeye bias — that I wasn’t thrilled with him being a first round pick, but I thought he had a chance to develop into a Ward-type safety with better athleticism and value on special teams. If they really want to make him a textbook free safety instead, they’re going to do it in practice because he is killing the team right now. This was not a good day in any way for Gregg Williams.
Our defense is trash. I want Williams to stop playing the safeties so deep. It isn’t working. This is the first game where Peppers stood out to me, in a bad way.
His lack of ball skills is problematic.
I figured we’d at least see a few amazing athletic plays to compensate for his noted issues in coverage, but it’s been like we’re playing with ten on defense.
Is it his fault? Gregg Williams, the Browns' defensive coordinator, does not think so.
Via Cleveland.com:
"I've given every single defensive back a chance to prove that you can be the angel of this defense,'' Williams said. "The angel is the person who covers everybody else up. He's the angel. That's the big picture we have in our defensive team meeting room in the back of the room. Why is it in the back of the room and not in the front of the room? Because you're in the back of the defense and you have to be the angel.''
Williams, as seen in the video above, says even someone in the organization asked him why he's playing Peppers so deep.
"'Because I told him to,''' Williams responded. "If he no longer does what I tell him to do, he's going to be your intern or someone else's intern in the building. He is going to play where I tell him to play, and when you take a look at how well he has played, there have only been four passes thrown farther than 20 yards against us this year a two have been interceptions, one has been an incompletion and one was caught by (Steelers WR) Antonio Brown that still (ticks me off).
"That was a punt. That wasn't a throw. That ball should have been knocked down, carted off or turned over. No way should that pass have been complete. Jabrill is doing very well. He is doing very well.''
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/09/why_jabrill_peppers_i…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEl1C8Ab8mQ
Any Browns fans on the board want to weigh in?
September 26th, 2017 at 9:40 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 9:52 AM ^
He has played most of his career closer to the LOS, it's tough to move back on defense and there will always be an adjustment period. To expect him to be great immediately there is unreasonable, but don't let that stop a bunch of OSU fans from being critical because he went to Michigan.
September 26th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 3:28 PM ^
I've seen a couple of people (mostly citing PFF rankings) saying this, but I've also read some takes such as this one that positioning and issues across the defense have contributed somewhat to the perception that his coverage skills are bad, when in fact they could just be average. Also, I've noticed a lot more pushback to PFF (note that Brian doesn't use them here anymore), and I think so of that is because they do jump around and, especially in low-frequency situations such as a safety making a play on a deep ball, you can get high-variance result that can skew perceptions.
Peppers is not a cornerback, and he absolutely can get into trouble by taking bad angles. But putting him the parking lot on some plays and then getting dinging him because a guy was able to get a 20-yard sprint coming at him is a bit unfair as well. But he also forces QBs out to throwing into the middle of the defense at times, and that has contributed to a couple of turnovers.
He's still a work in progress as a rookie, but it doesn't seem like he's doing too badly for the defense he's put in. It sounds like a larger argument could be made with how he's deployed, though.
September 26th, 2017 at 3:49 PM ^
The best comp for Peppers has always been Troy Polamalu, who was almost unwatchable in his first two years with the Steelers (0 starts as a rookie). It can be especially difficult for playmaking types to learn all the angles, and what you can get to.
At Michigan, Peppers had help over the top, so he could flash to the ball--playing right to his talents. He's learning a whole new way to play.
September 26th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
The angel imagery is bizarre to me.
September 26th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^
Angel of death?
September 26th, 2017 at 9:42 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 10:23 AM ^
I thought about this as I was listening to the video, and I agree - it's not his fault that the Browns (or a different team if they had drafted him) would use him in a way that doesn't exactly cater to his strength as a defender. I think this was something in the back of a lot of minds here, that because Peppers is such a versatile player, that NFL coaches may not utilize him efficiently.
September 26th, 2017 at 10:04 AM ^
Peppers may have had a higher upside on offense (RB) or at least been a more natural fit.
September 26th, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^
Peppers might have a higher upside on a team that is not the Browns.
September 26th, 2017 at 10:18 AM ^
I follow literally everything and everybody pertaining to the Browns on Twitter and I can tell you that the fan reaction to Peppers is NOT negative in the least. Pro-Peppers here runs about 95% vs anti-Peppers from fans and media alike.
The criticism Williams is defending is directed at HIM, not Peppers. Many people, (myself included) question lining him up 25-30 off the LOS where his playmaking ability is neutralized to a great extent. Williams describes as the defensive "angel" but last week when JP missed a tackle and the Colts WR went for a 61 yard TD the noise level on how JP is being deployed went up exponentially.
Browns fans are frustrated that their new toy is not being used correctly by the DC - not that JP is not meeting expectations. That one fan you quoted notwithstanding.
September 26th, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^
safety...the QB is starting his cadence with both safeties that deep. It really is a surprising defense. Doe s G williams have something in his contract about not givign up the deep play?
September 26th, 2017 at 10:19 AM ^
Personally, I'd love to see how Belichick could use him on offense.
September 26th, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
He doesn't have the ball skills so he couldn't play offense. <eye roll>
I wanted him on the Pats, specifically for his punt returning abilities.
September 26th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
Would vote plus 1000 if I could
September 26th, 2017 at 10:15 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 11:00 AM ^
From early in his career at Michigan, I felt that he had more upside as a RB. No doubt he was an excellent defender at Michigan, however I always felt that his explosiveness with the ball in his hands was his most unique skill. I would have liked to have seen him get more touches, and not in the wildcat.
September 26th, 2017 at 12:01 PM ^
Unless he has stone hands, they could have used him on screens, mesh routes and fly patterns from out of the backfield.
Either way, how does Gregg "Bounty" Williams still have a job?
September 26th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 10:11 AM ^
Wait, are you telling me that a rookie, playing out of his natural position, hasn't been perfect in the first 3 games of his career? That's literally never happened before... ever... to anyone...
September 26th, 2017 at 10:11 AM ^
Wait, are you telling me that a rookie, playing out of his natural position, hasn't been perfect in the first 3 games of his career? That's literally never happened before... ever... to anyone...
September 26th, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^
He played like complete shit on Sunday. There's no question about it.
I hope he turns it around.
September 26th, 2017 at 10:52 AM ^
Gregg William's comments were made before Sunday's game where Peppers had 1.5 major biffs. (I personally thought the PI call was pretty lame, but whatever) And in a game the Browns lost 31-28 those mistakes loom pretty large, so I'm pretty sure that Williams and Peppers have... chatted about them a few times since.
Before we sound the alarm bells though, this was a 1-15 team last year and Peppers didn't lose the game solely on his lonesome. There are much bigger structural problems with the team than a rookie safety getting burnt by a three-time Pro Bowl WR. Peppers' natural fit is as a SS in the box detonating screen plays. But Gregg Williams' scheme requires someone to play as a centerfielding free safety and Jabrill is the best suited guy currently on the roster for that job so it is what it is. I mean, you learn and move on. The team that beat us Sunday once had a rookie quarterback who threw about 2479237 interceptions in his first year but eventually cobbled a halfway decent career.
Bottom line is that there are any number of reasons why Jabrill (not to mention any other current pro) may not make it in the big leagues - lack of coverage skills against top-level competition, injuries, not finding the right fit for his talents, etc. One potential reason that you can absolutely dismiss, though, is a Justin Gilbert-esque lack of fucks given.
September 26th, 2017 at 11:14 AM ^
The fair catch inside the 10 with less than 30 seconds left in the game was a bad decision and he knew it immediately after he did it. Given the situation, you have to at least try to make the gunner miss.
September 26th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^
Best I can figure is that he was super-conscious about not making an even worse frak-up, given how he'd already made a few. I mean, we all know that it wouldn't have mattered given the Browns' stone-handed receiving corps but with 30 second left and 90 yards to go, ya gotta play to your outs.
September 26th, 2017 at 11:03 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
Otherwise bullshit. "Ohio People" are in overwhelming support of Peppers and are pissed at the DC's use of him and the presser the OP used was done before the game on Sunday and was Williams defending himself on the use of Peppers as an "angel" in the defensive set (30 yards off the LOS).
I dont want to turn this thread into anything remotely resembling politics but I do get right now how people could get frustrated by the media. The OP's title, support quotes, video and conclusions are just flat out wrong yet people who skim them and dont know any of the actual story will be led to an incorrect conclusion based upon them.
Like yours.
September 26th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
Your new avatar led me to an incorrect conclusion of your identity!
September 26th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
...trade him to the Lions for Teez Tabor and next year's 1st round draft pick. Him and Quin would instantly give us a top 10 safety tandem in the NFL, maybe best in the NFC North.
I love Jarrad Davis so far, but I still believe Peppers will be a game changer.
September 26th, 2017 at 12:00 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 12:04 PM ^
And wish he was still playing at Michigan. But we knew here that his cover skills were unpolished. I think he will be a very good safety. He's a rookie and will learn a lot. These are also Cleveland fans...If they knew how much Peppers studies the game, they would realize his potential is pretty high.
Even better, trade him to the Lions.
September 26th, 2017 at 1:23 PM ^
Rookie Malik Hooker still playing catch-up with Indianapolis Colts ...
this is for all the OSU fans that are also browns fans, even their beloved safety who was also a high pick is still struggling to catch on to the defensive system and playing at a high level in the NFL...surprise surprise
September 26th, 2017 at 3:24 PM ^
that article is from Sept 2 - unfortunately Hooker has since played in the Colts' 2-deep and gotten 2 INTs, even though one of them was on a EOG Hail Mary
September 26th, 2017 at 4:49 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 2:43 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 3:04 PM ^
That said the Clowns are using him completely wrong. What the hell is this defense where you line up 30 yards away? What are they supposed to do?
But where he has failed and deserves the criticism is in the return game. He's made some terrible decisions on kickoffs and on punt returns all he ever does is fair catch. Then after the fair catch he smacks himself in the head. Cmon take a hit pretty boy.
I was hyped when they drafted him but much like Edwards it's going to be another excuse for Ohio people to hate Michigan.
September 26th, 2017 at 5:42 PM ^
September 26th, 2017 at 6:38 PM ^