OT - Lochte fabricated story of robbery
According to ABC News.
http://michigan.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Ryan-Lochte-fabricated-robber…
Anyone really that surprised?
August 18th, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^
It sounds like you are saying that maybe the police are lying about Lochte lying to them, and that in fact Lochte told them the truth.
If we assume that during his interview with police Lochte told them a story that aligns with one of the many versions of the incident that he has recounted with the media, then it seems he did in fact lie to the police.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 12:36 PM ^
Just yesterday you were stating, with certainty and authority, that Lochte was covering up a visit to a brothel. Now it looks like he was covering up some rowdiness and property damage at a gas station. Still looks bad for Lochte, but your certainty yesterday has not yielded an accurate picture of the facts as we have them today.
And you're getting needlessly upset that people are questioning the details you are reporting.
August 18th, 2016 at 4:48 PM ^
Both could very well be true.
August 18th, 2016 at 7:08 PM ^
Credit where due: Most of Burger's information yesterday is now playing out today, based on tweets I'm reading. His attitude still reads poorly, but he was certain about things that are proving to be accurate.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:44 PM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^
Forgive me, but when you say "the people working on the story," what does that even mean? Americans? American journalists? Americans in foreign intelligence who are speaking to journalists? Are you an investigative journalist? I guess I'm just skeptical of unsourced reports from anonymous sources in a foreign nation who have at least as much incentive to lie as the athletes do, in my mind. That's where I was coming from.
However...all of that being said, I do think that, as this story evolves (as in, how it has evolved since my comment you responded to), I now believe Lochte is completely full of shit. (Link: http://summergames.ap.org/article/2-lochte-teammates-robbery-probe-pull…). The other swimmers have told the authorities that he was full of it. And yes, I do take the AP as a credible news source. But I guess, personally, that I wanted a little more backup before I'd believe anonymous message board comments and/or a tweet from an ABC journalist whom I have no prior impression of, vs. an American. I guess it shows my American bias, which I'm willing to admit.
So, in all, you were correct, but I also don't think it's insane for someone to want more evidence before forming an opinion. And, I was operating under the assumption that Lochte wouldn't be such a moron as to make up such a story. Well, lesson learned on my part: he *is* that dumb. Which I should've known.
August 18th, 2016 at 3:02 PM ^
don't tear your rotator cuff patting yourself on the shoulder
August 18th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^
I've never filed a police report, but I've sure as hell lied to a lot of cops in my day. Not mutually exclusive. And we know Lochte has talked to police, at least if you take the police's word for it.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
to the authorities in the DPRK?
August 18th, 2016 at 11:28 AM ^
Let's see, we have re-education, hard labor, forced international money laundering, death by flamethrower, and self-censorship, which is really no more than a slap on the wrist.
August 18th, 2016 at 12:32 PM ^
actually translate to: fall on large knife?
August 18th, 2016 at 6:22 PM ^
That is the Japenese word you're thinking of. Ours is much tamer, but usually reserved for children. ;-)
August 18th, 2016 at 12:09 PM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 11:01 AM ^
They lied to the media, which caused a shitstorm.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^
Sure it doesn't prove he lied about getting robbed but it proves he lied about his whereabouts/series of events that led up to it, which still affects the credibility of his whole story. Works the same way in a US court of law.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:08 AM ^
This is true. It definitely affects their credibility. That said, the two things-- fighting with security at the gas station and getting robbed-- aren't mutually exclusive.
August 18th, 2016 at 12:40 PM ^
to a TV personality on camera.
From the OP's link
A Brazilian police source told ABC News that "one of the swimmers was seen on CCTV footage breaking down the door to the bathroom at the gas station and fighting with a security guard" on the night of the reported incident
The story should be "US Olympic Swimmer (which one?) Fights with Brazilian Gas Station Attendent after Breaking Down Bathroom Door"
There is an alleged crime there, and the Brazilian police would certainly be justified for detaining the swimmers for an actual alleged crime.
Now I'd like to see the Brazilian police produce the CCTV footage and let the chips fall from there.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^
USA! USA!
August 18th, 2016 at 10:39 AM ^
Ryan Lochte should be beaten over the head . . . with Hope Solo.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:42 AM ^
This could be a Pay Per View event.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:50 AM ^
August 18th, 2016 at 11:14 AM ^
Ryan Lochte over the head, using Hope Solo as the club.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:31 AM ^
As long as they are both black and blue to the point of not being able to talk or tweet, I'm good.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^
Is rumored to be one the dumbest humans on the planet Nothing about this surprises me in the least.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:52 AM ^
August 18th, 2016 at 10:43 AM ^
August 18th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
Do you mean moms or mods? I just don't know anymore.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
But, that evidence the Brazilian police talk about doesn't prove that the morons weren't robbed. It only shows that they may also have committed some crimes. Definitely casts serious doubt on the swimmers' already low credibility.
EDIT: I think I Like Burgers' take above seems quite likely.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
I liked it better before you changed the edit. Too bad I wasn't fast enough to lock it in.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:13 AM ^
I either mispelled Burger's name or mispelled bugar. Either way, a strong start to the day . . .
August 18th, 2016 at 10:45 AM ^
August 18th, 2016 at 11:45 AM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 7:48 PM ^
But you believed the story yesterday...
Maybe the next time you want to lecture someone on the internet dont?
August 18th, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Still unclear to me if any of the other three did anything as part of this, or just got royally F-ed by Lochte going and telling a tale, and feeling forced to back it up.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:53 AM ^
Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. As they get off their return flight butt naked.
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August 18th, 2016 at 10:55 AM ^
Hey, good to see you, brother! Hope you've been well.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^
Give him the moon door.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:56 AM ^
Lochte got drunk, acted like a complete asshole, made up some bullshit story to piss on an already poor country in tough times to protect himself.
Pretty typical for him. Guy is a complete piece of shit.
You'll see his old, fat, drunk-swollen head in court in about 25 years on NBC for some drunken stupidity and everyone will nod thier head and say "Oh yea, I vaguely remember that idoit. Yep, seems about right." and he will go to jail.
Good for him. He had a good run.
August 18th, 2016 at 4:31 PM ^
An unnamed Brazilian source claims the whole story was fabricated, and an ABC reporter is reporting this. That does not, at all, mean it WAS fabricated. Nor does it mean the crux-- that a gun was pointed at them and they were robbed-- is incorrect. Also, fighting with security at a gas station...okay? Does that mean he couldn't also have been robbed? The ABC journalist in question's tweet, which everyone is picking up on, is at the following link: https://twitter.com/mattgutmanABC/status/766268427661029376?ref_src=tws…
ETA: Yeah, based on info that's come to light today...sure seems more and more like Lochte is just full of crap, actually.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:59 AM ^
to peice together that night, The Hangover style. Lochte and crew go to the brothel, get their service, but wait, Lochte's wallet gets stolen. He doesn't notice it until he gets to the store, where he is trying to buy more alcohol, probably Goldschlick Vodka. Noting that his wallet is gone, he attempts to "steal the booze" like in Seth's fantasy in Superbad, but is tripped up by security on the way out leading to an altercation.
Wakes up with somebody else's baby in his room and a lion in the bathroom. Calls mom crying.
August 18th, 2016 at 12:25 PM ^
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August 18th, 2016 at 12:37 PM ^
They're all getting fucked by the long dick of the law.
August 18th, 2016 at 10:58 AM ^
August 18th, 2016 at 11:03 AM ^
Like it or not, it is a crossover story that has moved from sports (which, uh, we follow here on this blog) to pop culture. It's getting a lot of chatter on the social media channels I follow. Don't worry, we'll go back to fretting about OSU's recruiting class and the ability of our RBs to pick the right holes and Kyle Kalis and our shallow LB situation soon enough.
August 18th, 2016 at 11:06 AM ^
to the US women getting shoved in the 4 x 100! Justice!!