Recruiting Team Rankings - UM now 5th on 247 composite......
"IF" (or when) Michigan lands Kareem Walker 2morow, we will have the #3 recruiting class with 258.65 points, slightly behind #1 LSU (260.04) and #2 OSU (259.9).
My memory is fading in my old age, but i believe we will be at our highest ranking since the stellar 2001 class (Kelly Baraka, Marlin Jackson, Ernest Shazor, Pat Massey etc...).
And where do i get in line to eat crow. I was completely wrong on my gut feeling in regards to Bush.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:18 PM ^
Keep in mind his success there in 2010 was basically built on the back of 2007-2009 classes, not 2010 which I'd assume was his best as he finally had results to sell. And no at that time Stanford was just emerging from a joke program so was not getting anywhere near this type of class. Harbaugh was just an emerging coach then, not a NFL coach with cache etc.
They now are established and have a hell of a class on par with UM right now but back then not even close.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^
According to 247:
2007: 45th
2008: 45th (lone 4 star was Andrew Luck)
2009: 18th (this is the class with Skov, Ertz and Toilolo)
2010: 25th
So Harbaugh was working at a big talent deficit while here was there, and his only good classes were still young in his last year (2010). That said, there was a very clear talent uptick after a couple years.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:15 PM ^
I am definitely not trying to downplay how amazing this is. Huge, huge accomplishment to be top 5 in a coach's first full year (especially after the crap on-field product that our program has shown for the past 7-8 years until this last season).
But, keep in mind that the ranking is influenced somewhat by the size of the class, and our class is projected to be huge, which does skew the rankings. To my, the better stat for ranking purposes is the average starzzz.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:18 PM ^
We're way higher than last year. We we in the high 40's overall due to the small class size, and still only around 30ish by average *'s. This is a HUGE turnaround.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^
Magnus has indicated most services only take the top 20 prospects in a class for the overall grade to try to account for the fact some teams will have huge classes (like we will this year) and others wont (like UM in 2014 and 2015).
That said I agree with your general thrust. You do need the raw material (recruiting classes) but we had raw material for decades and had a lot of underachievement in a relative sense under Carr (save 3-4 years) and go forward. Let us hope this is finally a staff who will walk these rankings all the way thru to elite status on the field for a sustained period rather than 1 year a decade.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:38 PM ^
I didn't realize that most services only look at the top 20 guys. That makes a lot of sense.
If we end up with Gary, Walker and one or two other 4* level guys, I have to imagine our top 20 guys would have an average ranking well within the top 10, no? Not quite to the insane level of OSU and LSU, but still top 10. At that point, it is all coaching and, as you noted, I am hopeful that our staff, unlike in the past, can turn these talented players into an elite team.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:32 PM ^
December 16th, 2015 at 2:29 PM ^
For years our classes were ranked relatively low because of small class size. I'll take the other way around for once.
December 16th, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^
Has more 4 stars than any school in the country. The average ranking is being pulled down by the really low rated recruits at the bottom of the class. The fact is the large number of signees at this point is actually hurting Michigans average recruit ranking. No other school has 12 4 star recruits right now, including OSU and Alabama. This is not some inflated ranking based on a bunch of low rated recruits.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:16 PM ^
I'm a star gazer. The prospect of us having the #1 recruiting class this year is pretty fucking awesome. Hell, being top 5 right now is making me want to celebrate.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^
just jumped us... back to #6 again.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^
Checks must have cleared.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:45 PM ^
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December 16th, 2015 at 3:09 PM ^
Guess I'll just end my celebration then.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^
The last time I thought we had a shot at #1, I had somehow convinced myself that Hand and Fournette were basically silent commits.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:41 PM ^
again
December 16th, 2015 at 1:28 PM ^
The last time I thought we had a shot at #1, I had somehow convinced myself that Hand and Fournette were basically silent commits.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:42 PM ^
made my day
December 16th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
I remember losing a week of work after the Class of 2012 (?) dropped over that one weekend.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:31 PM ^
Those guys turned out pretty good. It was worth the celebration.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:19 PM ^
Michigan will have a really good recruiting class, just like they did under Hoke. The difference will (hopefully) be the onfield results.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:20 PM ^
We are up to #3 class ranking on Rivals.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2016/all/all
December 16th, 2015 at 1:21 PM ^
Now we are 4th...Ole Miss just took over the top spot.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:24 PM ^
I would suggest using 247 composite - it averages all the major services into 1. We are 6 there. You are going to get a lot more discrepency if you use any 1 service alone.
http://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/CompositeTeamRankings
December 16th, 2015 at 2:05 PM ^
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December 16th, 2015 at 1:25 PM ^
Jesus. They aren't out of money yet? I'm completely serious.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:29 PM ^
I guess that is what happens when the #1 OT commits.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^
that 247 has our bock M with the "the University of Michigan" written under it... it makes the M look small... It should take up almost the whole BLOCK.
If someone needs the above caption to tell you that it is us (vs. a big maize M on a blue background)... then do we really care if you know or not? ... come on now.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:53 PM ^
December 16th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
I remember when everyone was worried about all the 2-3 star kids in the summer. Look at it now! Go Blue!
December 16th, 2015 at 1:34 PM ^
Not bad for a team that wasn't even bowl eligible last season.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:36 PM ^
What was it ranked?
December 16th, 2015 at 1:40 PM ^
18, I believe.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^
Looking ahead, this makes me SO excited to see what he will be able to achieve with multiple top 10 classes
December 16th, 2015 at 1:43 PM ^
Not so fast... Ole Miss just landed 5* Greg Little (#2 overall recruit, their 2nd top-five recruit), and pops up to #3, moving U-M back to #6 and Stanford down 2 pegs to #7.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:51 PM ^
Seriously, what the hell is going on at Ole Miss that they are able to pull in that kind of talent?
December 16th, 2015 at 2:00 PM ^
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December 16th, 2015 at 2:14 PM ^
I dont know, I could use the enlightenment.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:51 PM ^
December 16th, 2015 at 3:00 PM ^
Ben Franklin effect
December 16th, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^
This is why coaches (in both football and basketball) need more time with their respective schools than just 3 measly years. Most of this upcoming class won't make an impact for another 3-4 years! By that time most coaches are fired or forced to resign.
December 16th, 2015 at 1:47 PM ^
michigan fans are not know for waiting. this is a big fault of theirs. i agree 3 years and watch out.
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December 16th, 2015 at 2:09 PM ^
...on the field together for the next two years sounds pretty damn good. Just like Peters, Walker and Mitchell on the offensive side.
Sounds like a good time for a new NCAA football game.
December 16th, 2015 at 2:27 PM ^
December 16th, 2015 at 2:13 PM ^
They'd been "partners" for the past couple of years, but CBS just bought them in total. So that makes:
- Rivals = Yahoo
- ESPN = ESPN
- 247 = CBS
- Scout = North American Membership Group (I've never heard of them either)
Hopefully they'll stay independent in their rankings, but I wonder if (for example) 247/CBS will eventually get charges of "bias" towards the SEC (which CBS has a major partnership with).
I'm not worried about it, as it's just recruiting rankings -- just a point of info.
December 16th, 2015 at 3:36 PM ^
The Tennessean (for 247's owner is a Nashville native) had an article on the acquisition - HERE
Typical stuff here....
“We are extremely excited to join CBS Sports,” Terry said. “With our team-focused model, 247Sports is the perfect complement to CBS Sports Digital and its best-in-class pro, college and high school sports coverage. It was clear early in our partnership with CBS Sports Digital that we share a common vision to provide the most engaging content, from the national to the team level, for sports fans."
Terms were not mentioned, but supposedly it only took three years from launch for 247Sports to be north of $10 million in revenue. I thought that was interesting anyway.