Fuck the NFL with a rusty pitchfork.
This whole ridiculous mummer's show smells about as bad as my maggot covered garbage can did this morning.
And some leftover food, alongside UNC's academic integrity...
On ESPN they are saying this about Brady's phone:
Based on Ted Wells' report and the evidence presented at the hearing, Goodell concluded in his decision that Brady was aware of, and took steps to support, the actions of other team employees to deflate game footballs below the levels called for by NFL rules.
Goodell found that Brady's deliberate destruction of potentially relevant evidence went beyond a mere failure to cooperate in the investigation and supported a finding that he had sought to hide evidence of his own participation in the underlying scheme to alter the footballs.
"On or shortly before March 6, the day that Tom Brady met with independent investigator Ted Wells and his colleagues, Brady directed that the cell phone he had used for the prior four months be destroyed. He did so even though he was aware that the investigators had requested access to text messages and other electronic information that had been stored on that phone," the league's statement read. "During the four months that the cell phone was in use, Brady had exchanged nearly 10,000 text messages, none of which can now be retrieved from that device. The destruction of the cell phone was not disclosed until June 18, almost four months after the investigators had first sought electronic information from Brady."
so if I literally smash my phone with a hammer, the texts messages sent and received on my phone can never be recovered? I am seriously asking, does that sound right? That data is somewhere, correct?
If this is true somebody get me a hammer, ASAP.
Yes, they can, but from the phone company, which would probably never give them up short of anything but a legal subpoena. To the NFL, they're as unrecoverable as if I called up AT&T and said, hey, give me so-and-so's stored-up text messages.
where your messages were sent. The two shmoes who allegedly did the deflating could have had damning texts back and forth to Tom, but didn’t. If Tom was texting with other coaches about “how can I get out of this!” for example, the NFL could look at their phones. It’s not that hard.
Maybe Tom had private information on his phone that he did not want to make public. TMZ would pay a fortune for any “smoopy-smoopy” texts between he and his wife. That private info would be leaked quickly.
That entire situation was aided by Skytel providing the text messages that he was sending/receiving. There was a lawsuit filed against Skytel, but I'm not sure if it's gone to trial or tossed out. Considering KK is broke, I'm sure he didn't win anything.
No. A court can subpoena the wireless carrier and get the messages. Not sure if that will happen in this case since it is not a criminal matter. If (when) this goes to court, it will not be about Brady's innocence but an unlawful suspension process as laid out by the CBA.
I believe cell pone companies keep the data for a brief period of time, but it can only be accessed via warrant.
Emails or texts or both? Many companies with email servers store emails indefinitely, which is why if you don't want the content of an email to be seen, don't use email.
You would think that the other parties that Brady texted with have the texts...or maybe not. He had to disclose this fact in case, during his appeal, his phone becomes part of the discovery as it surely would.
Not a good move if it is true.
If I had photos of my naked wife, Gisele on my phone, I'd destroy it rather than turn it over to Goodell, that pervert.
The internet has plenty of naked pictures of his wife. No need to get them from Tom's phone.
excuse me a second
I really hope Brady's civil lawsuit starts around $200 million for damage to his brand.
be disappointed
He's got a good case. The NFL's public statement on his wrongdoing basically said "you probably did it". Not exactly a firm foundation
They only have to abide by the player contract. It isn't a criminal court of law and apparently only requires a preponderance of evidence.
That's exactly what the courts will do.
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Tom Brady has authorized the NFLPA to appeal his case in federal court, per source.
— Jim Trotter (@JimTrotter_NFL) July 28, 2015
Get your Popcorn ready...and buckle up. This should be good.
No more Brady hugs and photo opps for Goodell.
Obviously Roger isnt going to overturn his own suspension and look weak, however hes in a lose/lose situation and knows it. When Brady sues and goes to court i dont see anyway this holds up. Even most of the Bountygate suspensions were lessened and they had actual proof
As a Bils fan, I believe we play them in week 2 so he can come back after that if necessary. Although I'd prefer him to be out the full 4 cause he's, you know, good and stuff.
case is heard in court which, with delays, may not happen until after he is retired.
so the appeal to the person who handed down the suspension did not pan out? Weird. Every bit as effective as the ole Motion for Reconsideration.
objecting strenuously.
I REALLY want to see TB take Goodell and the NFL to court and take them to the cleaners. I wonder though whether they can do this before the NFL season starts.
I hate your idea of suing because I don't want to sit here for three years watching some godawful lawsuit wend its way through the courts while ESPN breathlessly reports on every stupid motion and argument and filing in existence. I just upvoted for the Few Good Men reference.
Not only that, if I'm not mistaken, technically, Vincent did not have the authority to hand down such a suspension according to the CBA. This is an aspect (among many others) which will be fleshed out in court.
now he has to lie in it; he is the owners' bitch, and there was no way this penalty was getting overturned by him. Looking forward to seeing a court defense of how it is legal for a man to pass judgement and then also hear the appeal on the judgement he made. Hogwash.
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Roger Goodell.
...and that's going to get reduced to 1.
Michigan fans are not NE fans.
They substitute for a shitty Lions organization...
But can someone explain to me why the teams bring, and inflate, their own balls to the game. If the air pressure is soooooo damn important, shouldn't the league be providing all of the game balls?
It's so blatanly stupid. If not, it's another indictment of Goodell not wanting to look bad.
Tacitly admitting that the previous system for handling balls was a cluster fuck. . .
Err. . . yeah, I stand by that phrasing.
Again, the league DID provide the balls until something like 2002. The newer tech balls required a lot of treatment to get rid of the gloss and whatnot, though, and the officials were crappy at it, so the system was switched to the home team providing all the balls (since they had equipment guys who knew how to prep balls). In 2006, that silly system was abolished and the rule made that each team could provide its own balls, except for kicking balls, which the home team still provided.
Air pressure isn't at all significant, which is why the rule is a minor one and the penaty for violation a trivial.one.
This case isn't about air pressure, it is about power and pique.
Now, one could ask why the league doesn't hire its own equipment managers to prep the balls (guys who'd been through this process with teams) and I can't answer as to why they didn't. Too cheap? It was the logical step to take back in 2002 or whenever. It is still the logical step.
Brady and Manning (of the Peyton variety) were the two advocates pushing the change in 2006, though this WaPo story makes it clear it was more widely supported.