MBB Snowflake thread
it's time to go more all out in football and basketball. Go to Columbus. See what they do to get 5 star after 5 star to go there for basketball and football. I don't even care if it's illegal. The NCAA doesn't care if you cheat anyways. Who cares about admissions? Ohio State lets anyone in who can breath and have been the best football/basketball tandem in the country since 2000 while we pludge along doing things the right way and getting our asses handed to us by them but hey we do things the right way. Why can't Beilein get a Jared Sullinger, Mullins, or Oden while Thad Matta can? Beilein is a better player developer than Matta even as this year has been shitty. I believe he's a better developer of talent than Izzo too but they get the talented 5 stars that keep their programs from having down years like this year for Michigan. If we recruited as well as the Buckeyes do for both football and basketball, we'd never go through these hardships. Top 5 classes every year in both sports and Harbaugh and Beilein would have us rolling as the best college sports program in America. Your snowflakes below.
A down year should be 10-8 and being a 7-10ish seed. Especially when you are 8 years into Beilein's tenure.
Year 8 shouldn't be a complete rebuild. We are losing games not because we have no depth, but because we are making boneheaded strategtic calls late in games. The injuries are ridiculous, but we basically coached ourselves from 11-7 to 8-10.
The sad reality is this down year is now we are not even a NIT team. That's what I am most upset about.
and you lose 5 players early entry in two years and your two best players are out for the year you're going to suck? Okay then, lol.
This is not a matter of a rebuild. This is a matter of an off year. All programs have them. Heck, even Kentucky had one.
Even fucking Duke had one, and Coach K just happened to have back problems that year.
I invest a lot emotionally into these games - borderline psychotic so it just pains me to see us blow these games at the end.
I do think Beilein expected more from Donnal this season and I don't think that he expected to play Bielfeldt this much. Doyle was probably best suited for a redshirt and we are seeing the growing pains.
I just pain because Beilein is an excellent coach, but these losses are brutal. Its remarkable that he basically re-worked the team mid-season and now has guys like Dawkins and MAAR playing big minutes.
I just think we could make things easier on ourselves if we play the numbers game like fouling up 3. We are already behind the eight ball with the ridiculously bad luck from injuries, but we make things even harder by trying to play straight up when its not the best solution.
Sure Northwestern made those shots, but that last one was a catch a shoot with plenty of space. Why as a team do we decide to play it out if we can't defend the play.
This team deserves wins, but instead has a bunch of close losses.
buy a clue. if we just had a healthy levert or walton (just one of those guys). we would likely be sitting at 12-5 in the BIG right now. ya, JB made some piss pour decisions down the stretch, but the fact he has these kids competing is nothing short of remarkable.
Oh I get that. We would be in the top 5 if we had at least Walton and probably one of the last teams in the tournament.
But don't you think we should have still eeked out at least this one and the Illinois without them.
and I still can't sleep, I'm so pissed off.
I don't agree with some of the late game decisions and Spike not calling a TO before throwing the ball away was particularly brutal - but there is no way I would have suggested the team could even be competitive if you had told me that on top of the three early departures, Caris and Walton would go down for the year.
This is a year where nothing has broken right. Our OOC competition has almost uniformly had very up and down years - these are the things you look for that often tell you if it's a good momentum or bad momentum season. Even last year when Stanford started ripping off wins, you could see that everything was breaking right all around us.
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if they hadn't lost two of their top players.
I also am not sure why people are comparing us to Kentucky. We have had some recent success but we are a long way from being compared to Kentucky by most college basketball fans.
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Let's maybe get a big man that can actually catch the ball. Doyle was brutal today.
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I think people would rather lose the game because we weren't the better team, not because you pissed the game away.
Its pretty hard to blow a 6 point lead with like 20 seconds left.
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Dude, you're the guy who declared Michigan Hockey over in fucking October. Don't tell people to calm down.
He has not done an amazing job this year. His poor game management has cost this team multiple games that would likely have put them on the bubble at least. This has been arguably his worst year since he's been here.
he has done a great job coaching up players but he has had poor end-game mgt in some games.
i would say, best job ever at coaching up players and poor job at end-game mgt. so kind of a push. this team is one less injury away from being 12-5 despite the end-game mgt.
The worst year was definitely 2010. The team bought into the preseason hype and never really played well until the Big Ten tournament.
I do think we would have won the 2010 Big Ten Tournament had that half court shot not gone in. Manny was unstoppable and had taken his game to another level.
Maybe this team gets hot in the Big Ten Tournament. Sure it would be a miracle to win the whole thing, but maybe we get a few breaks to our way. It probably won't happen, but at least we can hope.
There are only so many times that you can put your players in a situation to win, before they have to execute.
JB has done an ok job taking young talent, overcoming a crazy string of NBA draft picks and injuries, to put his guys in the position to win. We will be back next year
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You also forget he called TO to get Irvin an open 3 with 1:00 left in OT2, which they ran again on the next play only to have Irvin miss. How many points did Olah have in OT on post entries? I think they had 1 hoop when Irvin missed an easy steal. JB adjusted and shut that down. It gave up some 3s which NW hit.
This was sooo not coaching. Give NW credit, blame a couple of key bad calls and move on.
Before long, Meyer will flame out similar to what happened at Florida. Eventually he'll lose control of the locker room, get mudstomped by Harbaugh once or twice, and go "spend more time with his family" before going to rebuild Notre Dame. You can be sleazy as long as you're a disciplinarian, i.e. Nick Saban. The chill sleazeballs like Meyer and Pete Carroll will eventually lose control and start to lose games before moving on. Carroll and Meyer's last years at USC and Florida were awful.
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(You can finish talking the OP off the cliff before seeing me.)
Yes, because we lost in double-OT - our fourth overtime loss of the B1G season - we clearly need to overhaul everything.
I'll just leave the Four Factors for this game in the middle of the blizzard here:
Michigan -
eFG% - 54.46%
OREB% - 30.30%
FTR - 37.50%
TOV% - 14.43%
In addition, our offensive PPP was 1.19 and our A/T was 1.182.
Northwestern -
eFG% - 56.72%
OREB% - 34.21%
FTR - 14.93%
TOV% - 10.08%
Also, their offensive PPP was 1.24 and their A/T ratio was 2.75.
Thanks to the 2OT part, we're tracking that over the course of about 65 possession each, of course. By a hair, this was actually our second-worst defensive performance (twice we allowed teams to reach 1.43 in efficiency).
but I did see the stat that Caris and DW gone took away 24.6 points. Let that soak in.
Also, not sure what this game had to do with Ohio State. Let's not be Spartans, OK??
What's with the Bizarro Snowflake Thread?
A crap game on the road in a crap year with a crap team riddled with injuries to key players, where everything (and i do mean everything) breaks right for the oppostion - including TWO huge missed calls by the refs coming down the stretch AND our 95% FT shooter missing a key FT - and suddenlly the best Michigan basketball coach I've ever seen is apparently senile and forgotten how to coach. GOT IT.
Some of you guys have completely lost it. I mean seriously - perspective anyone?
pass out of bounds so maybe. /s
and our position in the Big10 tourney hasn't changed (still gonna play Illinois).