Update: Treetops Resort now reports $430,000 in damages

Submitted by yossarians tree on

Sorry to poke a finger in a black eye, but this story just gets worse. If you don't want to reiterate, move along.

I can only imagine the pressure inside this frat and the finger pointing, the divergent needs to cover one's own ass and rat out a fellow "brother" versus the wish to circle the wagons. The stereotype says that these kids have a "rich parents" who can easily dole out the money and get their kids off the hook. I'm not so sure about that. And anyway, this is some serious coin we are talking about.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/02/treetops_resorts_…

yossarians tree

March 1st, 2015 at 1:39 PM ^

I don't know how $ damages can be quantified and even then, how is it enforced, and who ultimately pays? Depending on who mediates all of this, I can see a strong argument for claiming damage to the brand. Would you want to book this place next New Year's for your family vacation?

softshoes

March 1st, 2015 at 1:42 PM ^

I'm calling bullshit on the "brand" damage. Unless they think people will quit going to Treetops for fear of another frat gone wild. Fix your shit, figure out how much the repairs cost, income that was lost during repairs and send the bill to the little freaks parents.

xtramelanin

March 1st, 2015 at 1:44 PM ^

that level of damages is total b.s.   you can nearly build the entire hotel for that amount.  it is the quiet season up here, places are not full.  what the kids did was wrong, but the hotel is totally piling on and trying to gouge those kids.  

yossarians tree

March 1st, 2015 at 1:52 PM ^

I'm sure Treetops is rounding up wherever they can, but you cannot call it the "quiet season". Those northern Michigan resorts do quite well between New Year's Day through March, especially on the weekends and during winter and spring breaks. Lots of alpine and cross-country skiing and snowmobiling. That's a lot of bookings lost.

xtramelanin

March 1st, 2015 at 2:06 PM ^

it hasn't been much of a snowmobiling season because the snow has been only okay, and the cold has been epic, beyond records in most places.   treetops is a summer place more than winter.  not to say there is no business, but it's one part of their hotel that needs fixing, not the whole thing.  meanwhile they can rent out the rest. 

as for loss of reputation, that is the ultimate irony.  treetops could never, under any circumstances, have paid $100K or even $430K to be known nationwide - but it is now a place that most of our country has heard about.  between the kids' insurance, their parents $, and treetops' own insurance they are going to cash in for free or even make a windfall. 

and lastly, the crime victim's rights act (CVRA) doesn't allow for some of the damages they are claiming.  

again, the kids did bad, very bad, but two wrongs don't make a right and this is turning into possible extortion. 

justingoblue

March 1st, 2015 at 4:22 PM ^

Piecing together info from their website, the property appears to include five golf courses, twenty-three ski runs, 238 rooms, two restaurants, a bar, a spa and wedding/meeting space. Their media page claims they spent $2.5m on replacing two thirds of their golf cart fleet and buying new golf course maintenance equipment in 2014.

I'm not a hospitality management guru or anything but it seems like we could easily be talking an extra two zeros on the 430,000 figure (and maybe significantly more than that, as well).

MGoClimb

March 1st, 2015 at 2:28 PM ^

Publicity, yes, but not the kind of publicity that they're looking for. Sure, more people will know about Treetops, but think about the kind of people that Treetops is trying to attract. Their customers are looking for a fun weekend or vacation. The thought of being surrounded by loud, drunk students isn't the kind of image customers want in their heads when planning a trip.

Pinky

March 1st, 2015 at 3:48 PM ^

It's exactly the kind of publicity they want.  It's free advertising for renovations, and anyone thinking about going there will realize that there's no way in hell Treetops will ever host large groups of college students again.  For a place that declared bankruptcy in November, this is a Godsend.

bronxblue

March 1st, 2015 at 3:58 PM ^

They have received tons of, at best, mediocre publicity.  All people have seen is a beaten-down hallway and damaged rooms.  If I'm considering "resort" hotels in upper Michigan, I'd be leery about a place that was so publicly trashed and apparently allowed it to happen with minimal intervention at the time.

 

Bando Calrissian

March 1st, 2015 at 1:56 PM ^

So how are they really going to get away with not paying this back?

Though I do think it's a bit much for Treetops to start making calculations about things related to lost business. Make the kids repay for the physical damages. Anything else is conjecture. 

Lutha

March 1st, 2015 at 2:16 PM ^

Lost revenue should be fairly easy to calculate based on number of rooms unavailable to rent and average utilization rates during this time.  However, once news got out that the property was trashed during an alcohol-fueled bender, can't imagine many people wanting to book new rooms. Doesn't really give the imagine of a nice family place even though management had nothing to do with this.

Bando Calrissian

March 1st, 2015 at 2:30 PM ^

Given how Treetops is handling this, they're going to be milking this for all it's worth. 

Don't get me wrong--the frats and sororities and these absolutely dumbass college kids who embody every negative stereotype about Greek life should be positively chokeslammed to the extent of the law, university policies, fraternity/sorority policies, etc. 

At the same time, the city of Gaylord asking these kids to come and do community service, Treetops acting like this is the ruin of their business when it's in fact given them more publicity and press mention than any promotional advertising they've ever paid for... It's physical damage to a private resort. Fix it, make the kids pay for it (just like any other damage done to a hotel by a guest), and move on. The sheer drama being applied here is getting absurd.

Would the press be talking about this, and would the same demands be made from all parties involved, if this were a huge bachelor party gone wrong?

Lutha

March 1st, 2015 at 2:49 PM ^

But isn't this what part of the chokeslamming is all about though? I don't have a problem with there being a punitive aspect of the consequences. Kids shouldn't have to be warned that shit behavior like this will be *severely* punished. All of these kids should be booted from school.

bronxblue

March 1st, 2015 at 4:45 PM ^

Well, part of it probably stems from the fact that the frat involved is apparently becoming unwilling to pay the full damages, and knowing this will go to the courts it is only good business to make your opponent look even worse and your side even more damaged than previously mentioned.

Yes, I'm sure that Treetop is getting a bit of publicity from this, though I'm not sure how "good" it is.  But it's the resort that is currently holding the bill for all these repairs (well, them and their insurance underwriter), and if the Greek organizations and the University are seemingly going to make this a protracted "hey, don't look at me.  These guys are no longer part of us" situation, I don't fault the hotel for using the press to shame these idiots into making restitution.

go16blue

March 1st, 2015 at 2:00 PM ^

I heard from a sorority member affected that they did basically the same amount of damage last year that they did this year but were never kicked out or reprimanded, and the going theory is that Treetops only invited them back so that they could kick them out and sue them later. I'm 100% of the belief that this was ridiculously immature behavior and those involved deserve whatever punishment they have coming... but I do believe at this point that Treetops (which is going through a bankruptcy) is just trying to make a buck off of them.