OT: Mariota and Winston Are What We Thought They Were (Combine Results)
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jameis-winston--marcu…
Mariota threw 13/15 on throwing drills, ran a 4.52 40 and had a 36 in vert
Winston threw 16/16, ran a 4.97 40 and had a 28 in vert
Winston's a more polished passer; Mariota is a better athlete.
Chip Kelly was paying attention to Mariota for sure. Kind of scares me as an Eagles fan of the lengths he might go to getting him. Wouldn't want to pull a Washington with RG3 mortgaging the future of the team...
I think the Bucs will still take Winston #1 and Mariota will fall to around 6-10... Eagles might make a play for that Jets pick.
February 21st, 2015 at 5:36 PM ^
in b4 "And we let em off the hook!"
February 21st, 2015 at 5:52 PM ^
What does that even mean?
February 21st, 2015 at 7:01 PM ^
I was thinking the same thing.
Crap Basshunter as a metaphor for a crap QB?!
I don't know.
February 22nd, 2015 at 12:31 AM ^
Pertinents of the .gif please. I've long divorced pop culture I'm afraid and this made me chuckle for some reason... and I have no idea where it orginated from or what is transpiring there, other than seemingly unintentional hilarity. TIA.
February 21st, 2015 at 5:40 PM ^
Winston is going to be really good.
February 21st, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^
Winston is going to be a really good what....
- BB gun marksmen,
- Felon,
- Soda pop thief,
- Crab leg "salesmen",
- Foul mouthed "poet", or
- All of the above
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/jameis-winston-incident…
February 22nd, 2015 at 12:42 AM ^
I take great expection to this post. There is no evidence whatsoever and I mean WHATSOEVER to suggest that Winston was in any way a "marksmen" with that BB gun.
Black Bart probably wouldn't have gotten his.
February 22nd, 2015 at 7:38 AM ^
Expection?
February 22nd, 2015 at 2:46 AM ^
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February 22nd, 2015 at 11:47 AM ^
Sorry I am a realist. When there is this much smoke, smoke, smoke, there usually is some FIRE. We all did stupid things in our youth, but I guess I was too boring as I did not reach the JW pinncle. In addition, these "kids" are taught by their athletic departments to understand the conceopt that they are quasi-public figures and that represent their university and need to be careful not to do stupid things. Many people, like you I am sure, were apologists for Johnny Football, well how is that working out now, just calling them like I see them, it would be awesome for everyone if he does shape up. But get....
February 22nd, 2015 at 7:32 PM ^
Meh...
February 21st, 2015 at 7:18 PM ^
Winston WILL be a huge failure in the NFL because he doesn't have the mental tenacity, maturity, and discipline to succeed in the pros. Give him a ton of money and take away the weak leash that FSU and the NCAA had him on, and you have a recipe for disaster. Any team that invests a high draft pick in him will be making a huge mistake. Bank on it.
February 21st, 2015 at 7:37 PM ^
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February 21st, 2015 at 8:09 PM ^
quite good, whether we like it or not. I remember seeing Russel Wilson have a couple of superlative games at NC State and thinking that he could be a strong NFL player; Winston is more skilled.
February 21st, 2015 at 8:37 PM ^
February 21st, 2015 at 11:03 PM ^
religion: hate on these people, love these people. With Winston, people let their hatred get in the way of seeing his talent. He's pretty bright, and he's a damned good QB.
Don't bother to 'splain me; he's done some awful things. As the SI article about his showed, no one demanded any discipline from the guy from the time he reached 8th grade.
That doesn't mean that Christian redemption isn't his for the taking, just like all of us.
:)
February 22nd, 2015 at 12:57 AM ^
I think you'll commonly find that mans willingness to forgive, along with their adherence to the notion of "Christian redemption," is quite proportional to how much faith they have in said person advancing their own interests and/or lining their own pockets. Sadly.
February 21st, 2015 at 11:21 PM ^
Winston lost one game in college. He led a lot of fourth quarter comebacks. He can cram passes into small windows with split-second timeframes. But he doesn't have the "mental tenacity?"
Winston made a lot of sophomoric mistakes: as a freshman and as a sophomore. Go figure. He will be a much better NFL QB than Manziel was this year and will be much better than Mariota. Matiota has a lot better chance of being the next Julian Edelman than the next Drew Brees.
February 21st, 2015 at 9:51 PM ^
At disappointing people? Sure.
He's a good QB, but for the life of me I don't see how anything he's done this year would make him seem like a shoo-in star in the NFL. He might not be a bust, but is he demonstrably better than Blake Bortles, to pull a name out of a hat? I mean, yea, he completed 16/16 passes. He's also pretty slow, not supremely athletic, and seems like a bit of a headcase. If I'm TB, that would scare the crap out of me at #1.
February 21st, 2015 at 10:56 PM ^
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February 22nd, 2015 at 9:46 AM ^
28 interceptions in two years (including 18 last year) doesn't support your assertions of reading defenses well nor football intelligence... And that's in the weak ACC not known for defenses and with FSU having tons of talent around him.
He definitely has skills, but he's nowhere close to being a sure thing...
February 22nd, 2015 at 5:22 PM ^
Matt Ryan had 19 interceptions and he was drafted fine... I love how people LOVE to compare Winston to other black QBs who have nothing in common with him other than his skin color, but refuse to acknowledge how similar Winston is to other white QBs before him.
The casual fans really showing their true colors.
February 21st, 2015 at 5:47 PM ^
Winston seems like the case where he looks like he runs much faster than his 40 time. He's got that athletic ability and elusiveness to his game that provides a huge asset. Tampa might as well sign him now.
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February 21st, 2015 at 6:05 PM ^
I'm an Eagles fan. It's my duty to make fun of Washington whenever possible deserving or not.
:)
February 22nd, 2015 at 9:44 AM ^
I was born a Lions fan and am now also a Browns fan.
Everyone makes fun of me.
February 22nd, 2015 at 11:00 AM ^
mGrowOld!!! I moved to CLE in 1985 for work. I've never encountered such an annoying fanbase. I prefer to root FOR my teams, and not hate on others. After a few years here, I genuinely wanted the Browns to lose every game by 40. The franchise is pathetic, but the fans are worse than Bucknuts. Help me understand how one can "become" a Browns fan.
I promise I wont make fun of you
February 21st, 2015 at 6:10 PM ^
He was only a sure thing as the second pick in the same way that Darko was a sure thing as the second pick - it was dumb and a lot of people said it was dumb, only the Redskins traded 3(!) first rounders and a 2nd rounder to get him.
The RGIII deal was unequivocally dumb.
February 21st, 2015 at 6:11 PM ^
February 21st, 2015 at 6:35 PM ^
I love being a Lions fanI don't think I've ever heard these words uttered together in my lifetime.
February 21st, 2015 at 10:46 PM ^
You know that one Lions playoff win I've seen in my lifetime?
It was followed by a 41-10 drubbing by the Washington Redskins.
February 21st, 2015 at 6:21 PM ^
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February 21st, 2015 at 7:57 PM ^
They picked Cousins, not Stanton. Stanton was the Sparty slappy the Lions wasted a second round draft pick on. Just our luck, the only good game he played this season was against the Lions. Never has been consistant enough to start.
February 21st, 2015 at 10:31 PM ^
That draft I had the Lions drafting Stanton in the 4th round. When they grabbed him in the second... I questioned the move. But then Millen knows football better than me, so that's why he's the Lions GM, right?
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Jameis had maybe 1 turnover that was his fault in which he was trying to make a play on 4th down resulting in a funky fumble.
The rest of the turnovers were cause of his receivers and rb coughing it up. Winston is a better pocket passer and if he can show any semblance of maturity, he will be picked.
February 21st, 2015 at 10:53 PM ^
Winston running a pro offense and moving the ball quite well, only to see his team cough it up.
29/45 348yds 7.7 avg/att 1 TD 1 INT
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February 21st, 2015 at 11:54 PM ^
Except Jamarcus was an under 60% passer for most of his college career. Winston has been consistently above 65% as a passer. He's also a much better second level passer and he fits balls into tighter pockets than Russell could. Jamarcus threw for 6625 yards in 3 years, where as Winston threw for 7964 in two. Winston is stastically better in every single category and in a shorter amount of time. Winston also won't go into camp way overweight. Winston has a lot of question marks and red flags, but he's much more talented than Russell ever was.
February 21st, 2015 at 7:31 PM ^
If I'm the Bucs, I'm praying the Eagles want to trade up and mortgage several years worth of first and second round picks. They need an infusion of talent in a lot more places than just the QB position.
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