How will the ND "scandal" affect recruiting?
I know there's front page and forum content about this development, but I didn't see anything specific to recruiting or possible transfers. How do you think this will affect the 2015 recruiting class and beyond? Do you think there will be an exodus similar to the PSU defections? Is there a chance that Crawford flips back to Michigan? Do the coaches still even want him? Thoughts?
EDIT: Mods, if this is premature or redundant, please delete.
August 15th, 2014 at 5:08 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
none of the players involved in this case have been suspended from school or the program at this point. They remain withheld from practice and competition until the school concludes its investigation into the alleged academic dishonesty first discovered by a faculty member on July 29. This case, the officials noted, is not specific to the football program and is not connected with Golson suspension, which resulted from his failure to make grades and not because of alleged cheating which is the allegation under review.
There is no timetable for this investigation and it is, in fact, a acdemic honesty review that may involve more than four student athletes indentified thus far. They were named only because their identitiies were expected to be known whether the university chose to acknowledge them or not. The penalties the players could suffer are wide ranging but will reflect the seriousness of their alleged wrongdoing.
Those penalties could range from an F on a paer to a course or possibly dismissal from the university. An academic honesty determination will be made by a university committee to resolve that. And again there is no timetable for when this might be resolved. The scale of the matter and the duration of it remain subject to the case. The university simply notified the NCAA about its internal investigation and will fely on school findings in all likelihood without taking separate action.
August 15th, 2014 at 6:32 PM ^
none of the players involved in this case have been suspended from school or the program at this point. They remain withheld from practice and competition until the school concludes its investigation into the alleged academic dishonesty first discovered by a faculty member on July 29. This case, the officials noted, is not specific to the football program and is not connected with Golson suspension, which resulted from his failure to make grades and not because of alleged cheating which is the allegation under review.
There is no timetable for this investigation and it is, in fact, a acdemic honesty review that may involve more than four student athletes indentified thus far. They were named only because their identitiies were expected to be known whether the university chose to acknowledge them or not. The penalties the players could suffer are wide ranging but will reflect the seriousness of their alleged wrongdoing.
Those penalties could range from an F on a paer to a course or possibly dismissal from the university. An academic honesty determination will be made by a university committee to resolve that. And again there is no timetable for when this might be resolved. The scale of the matter and the duration of it remain subject to the case. The university simply notified the NCAA about its internal investigation and will fely on school findings in all likelihood without taking separate action.
August 15th, 2014 at 6:40 PM ^
stuff like this is why im done following college sports. the high and mighty at michigan are rejoicing over violations at notre dame for things that michigan is certainly guilty of violating right now. what a messed up sport to follow. people find joy in notre dame having violations, but look for ways to defend their own WR sucker punching a kid in the jaw in the same week. i dont know where michigan fans seem to find this moral high horse they sit upon.
then michigan fans start wondering what effects it will have on recruiting. lmao
how pathetic. but i guess that is what happens when the team you are following is awful year in and year out. you look for other teams to screw up so that you can find joy in that. what a joke. "its all about the kids" lmao
who cares if ND has academic fraud? its not as if michigan isnt quilty of the same thing. considering michigan is quilty of rape and cover up...
its time to do away with the NCAA football model and just make a minor league for the NFL.
August 15th, 2014 at 6:42 PM ^
"I'm done following college sports" ... says the guy on a College Sports Blog.
August 15th, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^
Bye.
August 15th, 2014 at 6:55 PM ^
Did you say "quilty?" Are you trolling me for my debate on the press conference thread?
August 15th, 2014 at 7:04 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
give 2 game suspensions for beating the shit out of your girlfriend?
I didn't see anyone truly defending York . A few thought he should eventually get a second chance. No one was saying what he did was right. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
If you have some proof of academic issues at Michigan, maybe you should make the coaches or administration aware of it. Otherwise what you are saying is as you said pathetic and BS.
August 16th, 2014 at 9:04 AM ^
August 16th, 2014 at 4:36 PM ^
...you have the proverbial cart before the horse. 1 day's pay in the NFL is more likely equivalent to a month's pay at most jobs; :practice squad players earn a minimum of 6K a week. Also, it's not his "job", per se. His job is to get a quality education, represent the University of MICHIGAN (Fergodsakes) and then be an athlete.
Hops off soapbox.
August 15th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
August 16th, 2014 at 1:31 AM ^
So you're saying that multiple Michigan players are having sex with tutors who are doing their course work for them.
Do you have any evidence of this, or are you just pulling it out of your ass?
August 15th, 2014 at 7:08 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^
...is the quiltiest.
August 15th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
but when they break more rules trying to cover it up. If this really just broke at the end of July, and ND complies with whatever rules apply, then there will be no real damage to the program. Whether those guys remain on the team is of course a different issue.
August 15th, 2014 at 8:55 PM ^
ND will always have a great recruiting year unless they get a coach that simply does not listen to his staff as to evaluating prospects.
From time they are old enough to set at the table, all catholics kids are told that ND is the greatest college in the world. If you show athletic ability of of D1 caliber, yeah you might visit a UM, Stanford but your parents have already made up your mind for you.
They did lower the standards as a demand from Holtz for accepting the position. Among the players they let in were Rocket and Bettis and a few other big names, about 7 that would not have made their special year so special. As soon as they were reinstated, Lou announces, "I don't want to be the one that breaks Rockne's record." Pure B.S. of course, but a good way of walking away knowing he won't have to deal with lesser talent.
I commend ND for this attitude and perhaps they should take a longer look at kids to see if they have the smarts as well as physical ability to attend there. RR worked the hell out of Fl, and that worked the hell out of us. Simply passing the ACT does not speak to your ability to do well in the Ross School of Business for example.
Best at this, imo, is Stanford. Even higher admission standards and from time to time with right coach, they excel at the game as well.
I don't mind them losing some players so. Their arrogance is only matched by ours.
August 16th, 2014 at 5:14 AM ^