Does Pryor's Failure = QB Recruiting Boon for M?
If (and it's still a big if) Terrelle Pryor fails miserably as a QB at OSU, does Michigan become THE school for 5-star mobile QBs?
As an initial matter, with two competent QBs already playing and Gardner in the pipeline, a 5-star QB is unlikely to commit to Michigan in the next two years. Michigan is not USC, after all.
That point aside, Terrelle Pryor, barring injury, will be gone in two years, at which time we can take stock of his college career. Assuming TP doesn't come close to his hyped potential and sucks a big one at QB, does Michigan benefit on the QB recruiting front?
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 AM ^
Who needs the Big Ten title when Michigan just wins the ND Conference Title every year.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:46 AM ^
nicely done lol
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 PM ^
I'm glad you can take it and dish it.
October 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 AM ^
So by scheduling a MAC team (Western Michigan) next year make the conference of one stronger?
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 AM ^
I think he just liked OSU and felt it to be a better fit for him. There may be some truth to the whole pro style thing, but its not like Tressel has had a qb pipeline to the NFL.
I think what may help us more than the (potential) failure of Pryor are some of the "new" offensive packages--wildcat,etc. becoming more prominent in the NFL.
If we have a successful offense and a prominent program, and there is a role for these type of players on the next level, recruiting will be much easier.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 AM ^
I'll play your game.
Theoretically this recent "OMG OSU ruined Pryor" stuff will have some repercussions for QBs going in this class and classes moving forward.
Will this hurt them with current commit Taylor Graham? Not likely, he appears to be more suited for prostyle anyways.
Will this hurt them with future "OMG Buckeye Lock" Braxton Miller? Theoretically yes. Will this help our chances with Miller? Probably not. We will likely have a logjam at QB and there are plenty of other places he could go play. But if it helps get him away from the buckeyes, awesome.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 AM ^
I agree, I don't think this will have an effect on Braxton Miller's recruiting. I can't remember who said this(tom?? brian??), but these elite recruits think that they have the talent to play right away. If this is the case, Braxton Miller probably thinks that he can compete with TP and maybe earn the starting spot.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 AM ^
I hope this affects OSU just enough for RR to even UM's record against Tressel before OSU decides to find a more modern coach.
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:53 AM ^
One mediocre season is not enough to get rid of a highly successful coach, particularly if the coach is at OSU and has dominated Michigan. Even if Tressel becomes truly outdated, it'll be awhile before he's removed from the program.
October 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 AM ^
Pryor is not a failure, he's a Soph surrounded by a porous offensive line, a running game not nearly as good as the one with Wells, and 3 new WR's who have yet to reach the level of last year's core (imagine that).
WAY, WAY, WAY too much is being expected of Pryor.
However, Tressel's play calling and insistance of playing Tressel ball is what's holding TP back.
If I were even a mildly talented high school Sr. I would beg for OSU to send me a scholarship because being surrounded by that kind of talent makes you look much better than you really are .......see Krenzel, and every other OSU QB since, well, forever.
One day OSU will land a true stud, 5 star pocket passer QB who will perfectly fit Tressel's offense and philosophy......and the rest of the Big 10 will weep. (Except Michigan because we'll be playing Ninja football by then.)
October 22nd, 2009 at 2:05 AM ^
but not why you would think (LOL fake MGoObes post).
Anyways, I think that for the most part, the most highly rated mobile quarterbacks (and athletes in general) believe that they can succeed in any system. Pryor is a perfect example of such a player. If Tressel continues to pursue them, I have little doubt that he will continue to have a head-to-head advantage as long as they keep beating us. Athletes pick schools based on innumerable factors other than scheme.
However, if Pryor doesn't work out at quarterback for whatever reason, I think you are more likely to see Tressel put a greater emphasis on recruiting a highly rated, prototypical pro-style quarterback. To me this is a more likely scenario that would directly reduce our in-conference competion for mobile QB's. Don't get me wrong, any school would be dumb to not recruit an athlete like Pryor, but I think you get my drift.
Even if that did happen though, I wouldn't consider it a "boon" for M in QB recruiting. We still have to compete with other schools previously mentioned, such as Florida. Gardner was a great get, but Rich Rod was incredibly lucky to find such a player in Michigan. We will have a much harder time landing future "Gardners" if we've got to pull them from Florida, regardless of whether we're competing with OSU.
Either way, I think both are very unlikely. But hell, who knows, I'll take any little advantage we can get.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:05 AM ^
Pryor has nothing to do with Michigan's recruiting.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 AM ^
when we start beating them.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 AM ^
While I enjoy seeing Pryor struggle, keep in mind that sophomore lulls occur all the time. Remember Henne's second season. He struggled for the most part. Sweatervest does need to adjust the offense though. Pryor has to run more because that's what he's good at plus he doesn't have players around him. If they continue to struggle, I think we would be even better off than just Pryor because there are systemic failures on the entire offense.
I do think Tressel is in some trouble should the current season result in say, 4 losses. Continued losses to non-conference teams plus deteriorating Big Ten play does not result in automatic job security, especially nowadays.