Quick warm tummy rub from 11Warriors

Submitted by MMBbones on January 2nd, 2024 at 5:13 PM

I don't recommend following the link, I just include it to add "voracity." 

Nice observation from our only rival*:  

  • What's extremely annoying about Michigan winning these games is that in almost every facet they're just "sort of good", with the exception of probably the best defensive line in college football in the last decade

And here's the link I don't recommend:

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/the-eleven-dubcast/2024/01/144537/eleven-dubcast-a-cotton-bowl-disappointment-with-something-potentially-even-worse-on-the-horizon

Enjoy the quote and carry on with your day.

*yes, that's a slight against moo U

dbrhee

January 2nd, 2024 at 8:46 PM ^

Hahhaha.. Maybe I have been doing too much data modeling with customers... It is not written by AI but just I jotting down quickly things on my mind (with crappy proofreading). I tend to go back an re-edit things but did not get to because I got distracted... 

 

Either case, this will be a nothing-gate and those who keep calling Michigan a cheater should look at themselves in the mirror.. Projection is the reflection of self.. Gaslighting only proves what this team had accomplished and will accomplish...  

mackbru

January 2nd, 2024 at 7:59 PM ^

The NCAA no longer vacates wins. And it doesn't consider sign-stealing to be illegal or a substantial competitive advantage. And Harbaugh already served a suspension.

Whatever happens next will be nothing major -- at most, 2-3 more games for Harbaugh, who may well be in the NFL next year anyway.

EikMelynai

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:52 PM ^

I got the opposition impression today after hearing some of the ESPN(!) talking heads, including Pawl. Dan Orlovsky in particular thinks Signgate is ridiculous. Facts are that we beat Penn State (without our head coach), beat Ohio State (without our head coach), won a Big 10 championship, and beat Alabama. Nobody think that we needed signs to beat Bowling Green or anyone else. 

AZBlue

January 2nd, 2024 at 6:11 PM ^

It is all they have to cling to -- and by "they" I mean the lunatic fringe of OSU and MSU fanbases - and even that is crumbling a bit.  For example, I saw a several OSU dissenters on Twitter today telling a more unhinged OSU poster that pretty much nobody outside of East Lansing and Ohio thinks anything substantial is coming from signgate or that it was that big a deal.

To reiterate to the MSU lurkers -- 1.) It is debatable that anything CS did was outside the "letter" of the NCAA rules except possibly... 2.) Attending the MSU game on the CMU sideline - which actually appears was a "side gig" aiding CMU and NOT actually scouting MSU without M knowing.  And 3.) There is ZERO precedent of the NCAA vacating games except for the use of ineligible players - which does not apply. 

Cruzcontrol75

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:23 PM ^

Just read a wrap up from the Bama perspective.  A pretty good breakdown of what happened.  Mostly fair, except for a preposterous comment regarding Corum vs Bama RBs.  Corum may not be called upon to be a receiver out of the backfield but he had 2 damaging receptions yesterday.  
 

-Alabama never got consistent edge pressure, and was erratic at stopping the Michigan running game despite RB Blake Corum clearly not being a runner as dynamic as any of Alabama’s four backs. 

 https://news.tidefans.com/2024/01/01/offense-absent-defense-fades-late-in-rose-bowl-loss/

joegeo

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:24 PM ^

I’ll read it to mean that the team’s greatest strength is that it has no true weakness, and I agree with the spirit of that.

However, “just sort of good” understates it significantly. Multiple position units are elite. Maybe o-tackle is just sort of good. Maybe receivers are just sort of good. Every other unit is somewhere between very good and best in country.

BornInA2

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:24 PM ^

That's a take based on experience from the last 10-15 years where 1-3 teams were, every year, WAY better than everyone else. Likely because they were better at paying players and getting away with it.

That sort of disparity didn't exist in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, at least as consistently as it did recently. There was no Alabama-type dynasty back then.

Vasav

January 2nd, 2024 at 6:21 PM ^

One mild caveat, disparity did exist in the '70s - there were a handful of teams that dominated their conferences and competed for league titles. With the exception of Pitt in 1976, it was Bama, USC, NU/OU, UT, ND and UM/OSU winning the league and dominating the top 5.

I think in 1978 the NCAA introduced scholarship restrictions and suddenly the floodgates opened - Clemson, UGA, Penn St, SMU, BYU and most notably Miami all came outta nowhere and brought an era of parity to CFB that lasted until ~2003, when USC won two straight titles and were damn close to getting an AP 3-peat. And then the SEC dominated, first Florida and friends, then Bama (and eventually UGA, Clemson and OSU joined the party). Not sure exactly WHY the parity ended when it did, but boy did it ever. And now the hope is, NIL and x-fers can loosen things up and provide some parity again.

Wolverine 73

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:24 PM ^

When you are “sort of good” at everything, the opposition has no obvious weakness to exploit.  As opposed to having a mediocre offensive line than can be exploited to thwart your running game and control your passing game.  Even when you have 5 star receivers stacked one upon another.  Get it?

jdib

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:24 PM ^

Well being "sort of good" at everything means your team has no large weakness to exploit.  Likewise, Michigan forces the issue on other team's weaknesses and disrupts their gameplans. It's not a coincidence that we stymied Bama more than any other team offensively.  Sure, our offense doesn't look very sexy at times but we can go to the air or run if need be.

The flexibility to adjust, on both ends, is what allows us to match up well and have the ability to win like we have been

BUprof

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:25 PM ^

This is what comes of the moar stars attitude ... we can't be as good as other squads that have a whole stable of 5-stars ... ugh.

 

We play to our strengths to get the job done. That's all that matters. It seems everyone else cares about flash and spectacle. The kids on this team have heart. They play as a team. Just win. Fuck Ohio.

Ray

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:35 PM ^

In times like this 11 W is an unfailing source of delicious 5-star schadenfreude.  I know I’m better off not reading it, and I should be better than that, but it’s just too tempting sometimes.  

Golden section

January 3rd, 2024 at 1:02 AM ^

Too funny. I love the Bama fan who says, "Harbaugh couldn't count to 10 with his eyes open."

Is it harder to count to 10 with your eyes closed? Maybe for Bama fans? 

He goes on to say, "He would rather fuck an albino midget than going through that pain again."

It doesn't seem like that much of a sacrifice. And would the fact that she is albino make it worse? 

Or is that just common knowledge in Tuscaloosa? 

superstringer

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:37 PM ^

Sorry but not sorry. It's a rival's BS take. We have:

- Elite QB. He doesn't have volume... but he has skills, moxy, intelligence. That fade away throw off his back foot .... wow.

- Elite RB.

- Some elite OL. Possibly not the entire unit, but some of them.

- Elite DL. Book it.

- Elite CB.  Mike might not for certain be NFL-elite, but we'll find out... but he is college-elite. (Like OSU persisted for years with college-elite QBs who were def not NFL-elite. Maybe string has been broken by last one or two.)

- Elite safety.

- Elite coaching, for sure.

I mean, "good units plus elite DL" sounds like Penn State.  We are so much more than that.

Blue Ninja

January 2nd, 2024 at 5:42 PM ^

Screw their fanbase! Many of them on EW think we should have been banned from the B1G championship and CFP. Its just incredulous to me that a team should be penalized before an investigation is even concluded or released. They do NOT think UM should have due process at all in this case and in fact think the NCAA is dragging their feet, the same entity that took what 3-4 years to investigate UNC and Kansas a few years back can magically have an investigation into Signgate concluded in a matter of weeks? This isn't your run of the mill TV crime show Buckeye nation. But then again their hatred for Michigan knows no boundaries from all the names they call us so not to actually say the word Michigan, to striking the letter M from their vocabulary to outright doing whatever they can to push the narrative of the sign stealing scandal that they are very much elbow deep in as well. 

Not long ago I thought MSU was the most hateful fanbase, and that Michigan and OSU had a respectful rivalry. But no, the last couple of months have certainly shown otherwise. I will never give that program any respect that I would ever show them before, I lived there during the 90's and into the early Urban years and I always showed their fans respect. So glad I moved out of the Worst State in the US.

goblue_in_colorado

January 2nd, 2024 at 6:22 PM ^

While it's nice that they acknowledge that our d-line is the best in college football, the fact that they say every other facet is just "sort of good" is laughable given that a) Will Johnson shut down their generational talent WR until he got hurt and also shut down Bama's WRs, b) our coaching staff continually out-coaches them and just outcoached one of the greatest coaches of all time, and c) Zak Zinter, Blake Corum, and Mike Sainristil were named All-Americans this year.

Seems like we have a least a few facets of our team that are WELL above average.

AlbanyBlue

January 2nd, 2024 at 6:52 PM ^

Whether or not we are "sort of good" at this position group or that is beside the real point, which is that this team (coaches, staff, and players) has a level of mental strength unseen in perhaps any team in history.

Team 144 has handled monumental distractions, basically right from the beginning of the season onward, and has ascended to the highest levels of the sport. No team in history has been put through the mental and emotional wringer -- on purpose, in a calculated and orchestrated way -- in this manner and still managed to best every team in its path. 

Media scrutiny? No problem

Suspend coaches? No problem

Injuries at key positions? No problem

Orchestrated PR campaign with myriad distractions? No problem

Suspend coach 4.7 seconds before game-time? No problem

Team given most difficult matchup in playoff? No problem

Nope, this team has handled it all. "Sort of good"? More like "Best ever......"

LabattsBleu

January 2nd, 2024 at 7:03 PM ^

sort of similar to the Clarett Luckeyes who won a National Championship too... they weren't particularly good at anything except winning.

I don't care what other people's takes are...just win and the narratives change.

CarrIsMyHomeboy

January 2nd, 2024 at 7:22 PM ^

A thing a like and think I understand:

 

The team has this central sort of love going on that makes me think their culture is at least generally against emphasizing the pain and downfalls of their rivals, akin to Ted Lasso’s Schadenfreude Free Zones, limiting their focus to tasks-at-hand and celebrations-of-each-other. It’s super admirable, understandable as good for the team, and damned hard to do.

But I’m just a fan—fully free to make every unhealthy decision I choose!

csmhowitzer

January 2nd, 2024 at 7:40 PM ^

A cringe half-compliment by someone who can’t get out of their own way to form a realistic judgement. This “sort of” crap is just “envy” spelled differently.

We have elite coaches who developed an elite team. We are so good in fact that we can adapt to play against a variety of schemes and show teams a variety of styles and perform well. ELITE in playing football, maybe not elite in recruiting rankings and draft rankings. A wet dream for most.

We’re not James Bond. We’re McGyver in a fancy suit driving an Aston.