Michigan rolled over and played Dead: Jim is out for the rest of the season
Per Scott Bell on twitter
The Michigan-B1G investigation is over. Jim Harbaugh will not be on the sidelines for the next two games, and then will be eligible to return. pic.twitter.com/QtqXwf0IQm
— Scott Bell (@sbell021) November 16, 2023
November 16th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
Until the Big Ten
And its corrupt commissioner
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And terminated
Everywhere is war
Me say war
That until there all other
Big ten teams that have
committed any minor violation
have their coaches suspended for three games
Me say war
November 16th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
Until the Big Ten
And its corrupt commissioner
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And terminated
Everywhere is war
Me say war
That until there all other
Big ten teams that have
committed any minor violation
have their coaches suspended for three games
Me say war
November 16th, 2023 at 5:00 PM ^
You say war. Michigan says surrender.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:26 PM ^
I have no words
November 16th, 2023 at 3:26 PM ^
Guess we're not leaving B1G after all...
November 16th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Why would you even think that was an option?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^
weird that you would get downvoted for telling the obvious truth
November 16th, 2023 at 4:12 PM ^
Exactly
November 16th, 2023 at 7:51 PM ^
Weird that you think that asking a question is "telling the obvious truth."
Weird that asking a question gets a lot of downvotes, for sure, but it would seem the question begged the question.
November 16th, 2023 at 9:32 PM ^
because it's a rhetorical question--ask him
a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
Or perhaps we've moved on and want to focus on that option instead.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:39 PM ^
We're not that fortunate.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:56 PM ^
I think it's obvious that Michigan came to believe there was some advantage in taking this suspension for later NCAA dealings
November 16th, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
If he gets an offer, Harbaugh will be coaching on Sundays next year. He was obviously already interested in returning to the NFL, and I imagine this season’s BS with the Big 10 and NCAA removed any doubt he had, if he had any to begin with.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:14 PM ^
Naw - he’ll stay to spite the trolls
November 16th, 2023 at 3:26 PM ^
If this is the precedent they want to set for an infraction of this severity, then I fully support Michigan unloading their entire binder of kompromat and declaring war on any team involved with this takedown.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Unleash it now and Day will be suspended by November 25th . . . lol no way. Anyway, that might actually be an improvement for OSU, so keep him on the sidelines.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
If you're holding your breath waiting, you're gonna pass out. Its clear Michigan wants to put this in the past, and I would guess nothing negative or bad happens to anyone at all. The time to unleash hell has passed and they either didn't have the goods, didnt share the goods, or nobody cared.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
You're probably right. Gah.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^
This is what I've been thinking might happen. Michigan would rather let the Big Ten have their pound of flesh and then move on. I highly doubt the courts would intervene and the Big Ten could potentially force Michigan to fire Harbaugh and it's simply not worth the risk.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
Big Ten can't force Michigan to fire Harbaugh. The NCAA could put a "show cause" on him, the Big Ten could try to lengthen the suspension, but I think that's it.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^
But I doubt this will be "in the past" ... like, ever.
And now the precedent, and incentive, is clear: hire a PI firm, leak findings to the media, whine to the commissioner until he suspends your rival's coach
November 16th, 2023 at 7:20 PM ^
No, it won’t. From here on out Michigan will have a hard-on for even the slightest whiff of impropriety in any other program and will probably try to exact swift retribution. My guess is that Michigan is deep in strategizing mode about the next rights package deal and potentially changing our affiliation or ushering out the current structure in favor of a football super-conference that doesn’t necessarily include all current members of the Big Ten. Title IX compliance could be a problem that plays a role in the decision calculus.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:11 PM ^
That strategy will only work against Michigan, not for Michigan. We are the ones that bent over and took it in the ass.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^
Pretty safe to say none of this stuff exists or none of it is remotely proveable.
So all the "insiders" are full of it.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:26 PM ^
They’re passing a binder from coach-to-coach and just waiting to unleash hell lol
November 16th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
Do we actually have it? I'm starting to wonder.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:45 PM ^
Lol. Michigan doesn’t have shit. It’s pretty obvious
November 16th, 2023 at 7:23 PM ^
We might be holding something back to spring it when it is most likely to have maximum effect and most likely to mess up someone’s good season. No sense using it on a program when they are in the dumps. Better to wait until the my are about to have a breakout season just to ruin it.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
Michigan is a subservient and cowardly university. Shameful.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
Or a University wise enough to realize that the Big Ten Commissioner holds all of the cards. SO long as the mysterious "Joint Group Executive Committee" back the Commissioner, he has absolute power to inflict any punishment he wishes on any member school or any employee or athlete associated with the schools with no recourse.
Getting Teenie Tipetti to agree to not indefinitely suspend Harbaugh (which he absolutely could do if he wanted to) is actually a win for Michigan. Finland surrendered to Stalin in 1945 months before Germany did so that they could get terms and avoid annihilation. Michigan faced the same choice and made the same decision.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
I really doubt anything is going to happen with that. All we’ve been hearing from “insiders “ is Michigan is going to fight all of this and expose these teams. Nothing has happened. Nor will it.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:25 PM ^
We should have released it before any suspension was announced. I really don’t know what we are waiting for at this point.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:35 PM ^
So the Conference officially agrees that Harbaugh was not involved/aware and yet they still uphold the suspension? Am I missing something here? (besides the obvious head-hunting)
Michigan was all fire and brimstone last week, what happened? So confused and annoyed by all of this. It makes me want to stop following Michigan athletics just to avoid headaches like this in the future over things that have no direct effect on my life.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
Harbaugh is the symbolic head of the program. When the program gets punished, it’s the head coach who shoulders the responsibility. That’s why they make $10M.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:11 PM ^
Harbaugh said last week something to the extent on wanting the punishment to focus on him and not the program.
Maybe taking the hit for someone else?
November 16th, 2023 at 4:49 PM ^
Magnanimous for sure, but still very very annoying and deeply unsatisfying. If there truly is no evidence linking the coaches to Stalions' files, and the B1G violated their own laws by suspending Coach, then they can and should fight this. They have every right to do so and would likely win in court. It just doesn't make sense to fall on a sword if the sword is already pointed at your enemy's exposed neck.
One could argue that Michigan MUST fight back for the future of conference adjudication if they have a winning case. The B1G is setting a terrible and dangerous precedent. It's not good for anyone in the conference.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
Actually, I no longer care what happens to anybody else in the conference. I hope the B1G goes winless out of conference (except for us), and that this new precedent results in endless bickering among the babies running the conference and its whiny members. They deserve nothing less than to reap what they have sown. I also hope that Ryan Day and all of his staff have to live under the microscope of PIs for the rest of their careers.
November 16th, 2023 at 8:02 PM ^
But the B1G didn't violate their own bylaws in suspending Harbaugh. They gave a completely bogus reason for doing it, but Tiny has the power to suspend and, if supported by the JGEC, the power to suspend indefinitely. Imagine what it would do for recruiting if Tiny decided that the Michigan resistance to his putsch warranted suspending Harbaugh for the entirety of next year.
November 16th, 2023 at 11:32 PM ^
Perhaps Jay
November 16th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
How do you close an investigation that never started?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:27 PM ^
Wow, after all that. 2 bullshit issues that every other school/conference would have laughed off have caused coach 6 fucking games this year. What a world.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:35 PM ^
Yeah. Seems like Michigan and Harbaugh got such a raw deal. 3 games for not remembering if he paid for cheeseburgers or not and now 3 for a low level staffer who is already gone, going to crazy lengths to steal signs, when he could have done it easily in “legal” ways (no indication that he did it illegally). I hate that Michigan rolls over on this. Should have at minimum shrunk this to 2 games and be done. I hate that OSU is getting this
November 16th, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^
rolls over or technical violation?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
Maybe just maybe Jim fucked all of this up. Why can’t that be a discussion? I think it’s becoming obvious he deserves both suspensions and there is more in both instances than we know
November 16th, 2023 at 3:53 PM ^
Both the NCAA and the Big 10 have said there is no evidence he knew anything, but go off I guess.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
It’s plenty obvious you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and you’re a reactionary goon.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^
Lol. It’s really hard for you guys to comprehend Jim screwed up and it’s his program. It’s ok, it’s not entirely his fault except his hiring practices and vetting is bad