Cade Throws Brian Ferentz Under the Bus
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/cade-mcnamara-defers-lack-wr-114537548.html
While what he said is probably true. Just not a good look and so many better ways to answer the question.
They should be able to turn it around this week vs. a lifeless MSU
September 27th, 2023 at 10:07 AM ^
Below are the stats for each QB in their true Jr year. They are nearly indistinguishable.
Both were blessed with a lot of talent around them including great RBs. As well, Henne arguably had better receivers. Sorry, but these stats say that they are absolutely in the same category.
BTW, Cade had the slightly higher percentage with less interceptions on virtually identical attempts. Let's give the guy his due and move on.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
September 27th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Username checks out
September 27th, 2023 at 12:08 PM ^
You curiously omitted touchdown passes. Henne threw 22 TDs in 13 games while Cade threw 15 in 14 games.
September 27th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
Also- since you think the stats say they are the same - I'm willing to give you 20-1 odds that Henne plays 15 more seasons in the NFL than Cade does.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:58 AM ^
He may have the physical skills that could conceivably transfer to nfl clipboard carrier, but his ego and mental processing acuity are limiting factors into allowing him to be that.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:02 AM ^
Clipboard carrier for the practice squad, you mean?
September 27th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^
Im gonna guess Cade's pride wanted him to stay at the P5 level and Iowa was probably the only one that was basically a guaranteed starting job
September 27th, 2023 at 9:57 AM ^
Wasn't Brian Ferentz there when Michigan played Iowa in the B1G CG?
I think the vision was pretty obvious. "We won the west 2 years ago with Spencer Petras / Padilla combining to throw 12 TDs and 11 Ints. And the offense scoring about 22pts/game. So come here and throw like 12 TDs and 6 ints, score about 24 pts/game, win 9 games and win the west."
And as grim as the offense looks, right now they are 3-1, offense is scoring 19 pts/game, Cade has 4 TDs, 3 ints. And the schedule gets pretty easy from here on out. Still have MSU, Rutgers, Northwestern. Wisconsin still has to play OSU. 9 wins and the west crown is still fairly attainable.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:20 AM ^
I think his thought was that after 2022 there was no forking way Iowa could be any worse on offense.
September 28th, 2023 at 1:28 PM ^
Well, at least he doesn't have to face Michigan in the regular season. I have no doubt that was a consideration for him.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:00 AM ^
September 27th, 2023 at 9:10 AM ^
Yeah, "I don't call the plays," and "whatever Brian thinks is best," doesn't really qualify as throwing someone under the bus, but whatever.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:37 AM ^
"Throwing someone under the bus" isn't literal, you know. What he did is exactly what the phrase is intended to convey. He deflected any blame for the offense's poor performance and implied it was the result of the playcalling.
I've only seen lowlights of Iowa's season so far, so I'm no expert on their offense. What McNamara said probably isn't inaccurate, and Ferenz is universally considered bad at his job, but the phrase is certainly apropos.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:11 AM ^
I hear your point / perspective. It seems like there’s a hyper sensitivity about “dissing”, and people interpreting it in a variety of ways. Personally, I wish young adults coaches learned to communicate more effectively - view the glass as half full - and present a constructive point during interviews, press conferences, etc.
September 27th, 2023 at 11:25 AM ^
He was asked about play calling, specifically. Iowa only through 14 passes on Saturday.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:02 AM ^
I think we all saw this coming as Cade talking big in the spring. Pride before the something.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:03 AM ^
Does he still have problem with people saying Iowa has the shittiest offense?
September 27th, 2023 at 9:26 AM ^
A QB who is not fast and doesn't have a strong arm needs good players around him. He had that in Ann Arbor. He doesn't have that in Iowa City. Top that off with Brian Ferentz and you have a disaster that he should have seen. His ego and contempt for "the other guy" blinded him.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:10 AM ^
Lots of busses around Cade...
September 27th, 2023 at 9:13 AM ^
Brian Ferentz is not good at his job, and Cade’s exit from UM was a little ugly, but I don’t think he’s throwing his coach under the bus here. He’s trying to deflect the question, it just understandably seems off because the guy he’s deferring to is under so much heat, but that’s not Cade’s fault or his problem when talking to the media.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:31 AM ^
I agree with this position. This doesn't feel like throwing anyone under the bus, although I could see how one might interpret it that way.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:14 AM ^
That was a pretty mild comment given the beating he took last Saturday. Ferentz seems to be trying to get him killed. If he had any honor he would quit, or at least admit he doesn't know what to do and ask for some help.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:23 AM ^
"If he had any honor he would quit"......he did that once already....you must want him to reach Roberto Duran levels of honor.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:39 AM ^
Ferentz the younger should quit, not Cade.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:17 AM ^
Clickbait-y post title, based on the actual content of the story..
September 27th, 2023 at 9:32 AM ^
"You won't believe who Cade threw under the bus this time!"
September 27th, 2023 at 9:17 AM ^
So you say Cade threw Brian Ferentz under the bus. If so, might be the first pass completed down the field to a non-TE in weeks for an Iowa QB.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:18 AM ^
I mean, not really surprised...He's not wrong either, but he could have been a little more diplomatic.
Its a Team sport: once you start isolating people into "them" instead "us" things can go badly.
“Whatever Brian thinks is the best way to get Kaleb Brown involved, I’m all for it,” McNamara said.
Versus
"We need to figure out a way to get Kaleb Brown more involved in the offense".
That's just me.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:20 AM ^
I don't see anything really wrong with what Cade said, and I certainly don't see this as throwing Brian Ferentz under the bus or any other vehicle. What he basically said is, I'm the QB. I don't call the plays or design the plays, I just run the plays. I have confidence in my receivers, and they know it, but getting them more involved in the offense, and answering questions about why they aren't, isn't my job - it's the OC's.
Seriously, what else is he supposed to say? Our OC is total shit, couldn't successfully game plan against a Pop Warner team, and is a prime example of why nepotism rules exist? It might be a nice cathartic moment, but then what? Nothing will change, and Ferentz & Ferentz will still be holding the whistles at the next practice.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:54 AM ^
I mostly agree, but:
1. It doesn't feel like the kind of thing you're *supposed* to say in these things. Fine, he's not the best, whatever.
2. This whole philosophy is completely against his mindset in 2022, that HE beat Ohio State and won the Big Ten in 2021.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:21 AM ^
Here are my dumb thoughts on Cade:
The good:
1. Led us back to beat Rutgers in 2020
2. Led us back to beat PSU in 2021
3. Beat OSU(!) and Iowa
4. Showed competency after the chaos of what was an underwhelming performance at the QB position at UofM under JH.
The bad:
1. Frustration with competition at his position, which led to poor leadership accounts
2. Awful performance against Georgia showing irreversible flaws
3. Voted team captain for 2022, and elected to not be on the sidelines or be at the games post-surgery
4. Talked poorly of team and school on podcasts with Iowa click-bait podcasters
5. Thinks higher of himself as a QB than what reality has portrayed and really is game manager
Not a fan of him.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^
He wasn’t great against Georgia but he was the least of the issues there. That Georgia team was unreal.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:33 AM ^
If you could rank all 44 starters on the field in that game against Georgia, I don't think Cade is over #40.
September 27th, 2023 at 12:16 PM ^
Cade's lack of mobility was a big problem in that game. Certainly, not the only problem, but he was a sitting duck back there. JJ was still pretty raw when he came in, but he was able to avoid the rush and string plays out. Cade simply couldn't do that. Our offense's ceiling with him under center was on full display.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:31 AM ^
Sums it up perfectly. Yes there were good/great things, yes the bad ended up outweighing the good.
September 27th, 2023 at 10:25 AM ^
Can't agree with that. He definitely deserves criticism for the bad, but... y'all we were there for the good and it was real and it was spectacular. Think about the universe where Cade Mc isn't on our depth chart in 2020 and think about what actually happened in this universe (pandemic aside), and I'll take the latter seven days a week and twice on Saturday.
September 27th, 2023 at 1:43 PM ^
Some other QB would have been on that depth chart then. We wouldn't be swapping him for no one.
September 27th, 2023 at 9:42 AM ^
He should have transferred before the 2022 season instead of after it. I read somewhere that his dad suggested that and was ignored because young people know everything.
September 27th, 2023 at 12:15 PM ^
His Dad was on campus after the Hawaii game to withdraw him from his program. He decided to transfer before the UConn game where he got hurt. The injury just sped up the process. He even said that he stopped participating in team activities even though the coaches wanted him to come back and play. The injury was his out.
September 27th, 2023 at 12:17 PM ^
He hadn't lost the job at that point. He was just in a competition with JJ, with the advantage of being the returning starter. To leave at that point would have been a pretty bad look IMO.
September 27th, 2023 at 12:28 PM ^
I'll never believe that competition was genuine. I may be misremembering — it wouldn't be the first time — but if Cade got a total of five drop-back passes without being immediately under pressure I'd be stunned. Seemed like there were breakdowns in the offensive line on almost every single pass play.
Maybe I'm misremembering. Or maybe it was a coincidence — I'm not meaning to suggest it was intentional. But man oh man, to try and make a fair evaluation of Cade's ability to lead the offense compared to JJ's based on that limited sample is a tough assignment.
(I like Cade, and I hope he does great at Iowa, but I'm glad JJ was given the starting position last year. I think, at the end of the day, that was the right choice).
September 27th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
How much of a sample did you need?
Cade is a statue, he rarely hits receivers in stride, and he pouted at the mere notion of competition.
JJ doesn't have those flaws. Once he had a year under his belt, there was no way he was losing that job.
September 27th, 2023 at 3:37 PM ^
You're misremembering
Evaluation was fair and accurate.
September 27th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
His dad suggested the transfer immediately AFTER 2022 season, which is asinine. Apparently, he didn't like the fact that Cade would have to again compete for the job and thus, saw the writing's on the wall. Why would you encourage your son to run from the competition? Further, who in their right mind transfers immediately after winning the Big Ten and College Playoff appearance as the starting quarterback?
September 27th, 2023 at 9:21 AM ^
clickbait title is clickbaity
September 27th, 2023 at 9:23 AM ^
So, I guess it is about the Xs and Os and not just the Cadies and Joes?
September 27th, 2023 at 9:24 AM ^
That is not 'throwing under the bus.' That is a polite and deft deflection.
Throwing under the bus would be: "We have wide receivers on this team. I introduce them to Brian each practice. It is like he has some brain damage or something that prevents him from remembering that we can throw the ball downfield. Perhaps he was scarred as a child by watching receivers catching passes and getting first downs. Maybe some kind of PTSD. "
September 27th, 2023 at 9:32 AM ^
He really wasn't harsh on Brian Ferentz, just said that it's Brian who calls the plays.
Here is what Cade said after committing to Iowa:
For the first time in a long time, McNamara felt wanted. He committed to Iowa on Dec. 1 and hasn't looked back since.
"I've been nothing but so happy that I made this decision," McNamara said.
and this:
After week 4 Iowa's offense SP+ ranking is 108- not the shittiest but getting close.
Cade- are you still nothing but happy about your decision??
September 27th, 2023 at 9:43 AM ^
Of course he's happy. He's begging everyone to call it the shittiest offense in college football and making sure that we all continue to do that.