Jack Sanborn is our dangerman [David Stluka]

Fee Fi Fo Film: Wisconsin Defense 2021 Comment Count

Alex.Drain October 1st, 2021 at 9:00 AM

Previously: Wisconsin Offense 2021 

Welcome back to this week's edition of Fee Fi Fo Film. Yesterday we took a gander at Wisconsin's beleaguered offense and tried to dissect the problems and explain what has gone wrong. The feel of this post, looking at the Badger defense, will be quite different. Great defenses have been rolling out of Madison for a long time now, and this year doesn't look to be much different. They held PSU to 16 points, EMU to 7, and Notre Dame to 20 (Irish got 21 on special teams/defense). This is a very good unit and it will be leaned on heavily to beat Michigan. So what's it like? Well, as you'll see, much of the same. 

 

The Film: We're using the Penn State game for this, as we did for the offense. Penn State is a decent comparison for Michigan offensively, with their really good running back group similar to Michigan's, but PSU plays with more WR's and in a more spread manner, formation-wise, than Michigan does, which we'll highlight below. If you read the offensive piece, Wisconsin held the ball forever on offense, which limited Penn State to ~17 minutes time of possession and just a shade over 50 plays. It's not a ton of film, but there's plenty here to get an adequate feel for the Wisconsin defense, even if this may be a shorter article than normal. 

Personnel: The chart. 

Wisconsin looks like the Wisconsin defense that we know so well. They still run their 3-4, just with some new names and faces in the front seven and the same old faces in the secondary. The defensive line (the three down linemen) has changed around a bit since last year but is still pretty solid, with NT Keeanu Benton as the headliner in the middle, bookended by veteran Matt Henningsen on one side and Isaiah Mullens on the other side. The DL's objective is to eat up offensive linemen and open holes that their murderous LB corps can come screaming through to either stuff the run or sack the QB. Backups along the DL are not used heavily, but Bryson Williams is on the two-deep at NT and Rodas Johnson is the first off the bench at either DE spot. 

Those murderous LB's are 4/4 in receiving stars, which is not surprising given Wisconsin's track record at developing LB's. Their outside LB's often line up at the line of scrimmage as seen on Seth's diagram, and then they may rush or they may drop back into coverage. Nick Herbig is a fresh face opposite Noah Burks, who has paid his dues in the Wisconsin program, as the starting OLB's. Burks plays what Seth calls the "WATT" role, which is the pass-rushing OLB job, whereas Herbig plays the "SCHOBERT" role, which requires dropping into coverage more. Both guys can do both roles, but generally Burks rushes more than Herbig and Herbig drops into coverage more than Burks. The backups at that position include Spencer Lytle and CJ Goetz, but the two starters get the bulk of the work. 

The ILB's are a pair of studs, Jack Sanborn and Leo Chenal. Unfortunately, Chenal tested positive for COVID-19 prior to week one, so he doesn't appear in any of the footage in this post, but he's a very good football player (you'll probably see that Saturday). Sanborn gets the shield as a borderline-All American and you'll hear plenty about him in this post. Both ILB's have to be able to cover and tackle, as a typical linebacker would, but they are also used heavily in rush packages, especially Sanborn. Mike Maskalunas is the third option at ILB to know about, and I saw quite a bit of him in the PSU game with Chenal out. 

The secondary is very veteran, with all four starters being at least fifth year players. Caesar Williams and Faion Hicks, the latter of whom played at Flanagan with Devin Bush and Josh Metellus, are the starting CB's. Scott Nelson and Collin Wilder are the two safeties, and both can come up into the box and run stuff, or play a deep safety role in Wisconsin's Cover 2 alignment. Dean Engram is the nickel that Wisconsin used a decent bit in this game, while John Torchio came on as a reserve safety in the PSU game too. Deonte Burton and Alexander Smith have also gotten snaps at corner. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: The LB's are gonna get ya]

Base set: Wisconsin runs a 3-4 that looks a lot like what Michigan is doing this season from a bird's eye view. Against an opponent playing the way Michigan does on offense, they're playing Cover 2 to pair with the 3-4 front seven and it lines up looking something like this: 

You've got the three DL's with a hand in the dirt and then the standup OLB's who play close to the line of scrimmage looking like edge rushers. The two ILB's are playing in a typical position, and two safeties 10+ yards past the line of scrimmage, only one of which you can see in the above image. The OLB's appear to be edge rushers, but the trick of Wisconsin is that that's not always what happens. Sometimes they'll rush, but sometimes they'll release and drop into coverage, and it's instead one of the ILB's who rushes. You don't really know where it's coming from and that's how they stop opponents. 

Against PSU in this game, they were running a base set that looked more like this: 

Two down linemen, the four LB's, and five DB's. PSU ran a lot of 10 personnel with 4 WR's and 1 RB like in the above clip, so Wisconsin countered by using more DB's and less in the front seven. Michigan, as we know, is highly, highly unlikely to run much of anything out of 10 personnel, so if you see this 2-4-5 look in the clips I show, remember it's going to be 3-4-4 against UM on Saturday, assuming the Wolverines play the way they have the whole season personnel-wise. 

Man or zone coverage: Mostly zone. Cover 2 is the base for Wisconsin but they rotate into Cover 1 and Cover 3 some. When they do go into the 2-4-5 alignment I showed in the image previously, they will occasionally disguise a DB blitz, which Seth drew up years ago and appears in the Wisconsin Defense FFFF annually: 

They'll ask the corners to play man sometimes, but it's a lot of zone and that sometimes can lead to busts (more on that later). 

Pressure: The Badgers come in at 4.23 rushers per play this season, which is in line with their historical average that we track here on FFFF. It was a bit higher last season, but in 2019 it clocked in around 4.10, so we're right in the same range that is typically the case for Wisconsin. They rush four on most downs, occasionally bumping it up to five and every so often dropping it to three, but four is your expectation when you roll into Madison. 

Dangerman: For the second straight year the Dangerman is ILB Jack Sanborn, and there's a lot of reason for that, as he's an absolutely terrifying blitzing LB. The whole goal of Wisconsin's DL is to keep the holes open for players like Sanborn to come ripping through them and PSU's offensive line did not do a great job of winning its battle in the trenches in this one. On some occasions, it was Sean Clifford who paid the price of Sanborn's fury: 

LB #57 coming around the left end

Sanborn typically lines up in the normal ILB spot, as we saw in the above diagrams, but when he rushes, he's either looping around a stunt like in this clip, or finding the open hole between the tackles. And once he gets going, Sanborn's speed rushes are hard to stop until he's thumped the QB. Even if he doesn't hit the QB, he can blow up a play by forcing a throwaway, which he does here alongside Noah Burks: 

#57 coming around right end

On this play, his compatriots in red failed to bring down PSU RB Keyvone Lee, but Sanborn cleaned it up for a TFL: 

He's best as a rusher, but Sanborn can stuff the run and cover fine. This game will be a huge test for Michigan's OL in terms of recognizing tricky rushers and disguised blitzes, and one of those tricky rushers will inevitably be Jack Sanborn. Watch out for him. 

 

Overview

The Sanborn section gives you a good hint about where Wisconsin is most dangerous, which is in their front seven. The defensive ends may be a bit weaker than normal, but it's also hard to tell right now, because any deficiencies on the DL are being patched up by the LB's. I gave you lots of juicy clips of Sanborn wreaking havoc, but I'll throw some more for you from Nick Herbig and Noah Burks, both of whom were excellent in this game. Here's another one from Burks: 

#41 lined up to the bottom of the formation

PSU had lots of problems picking up these stunts and disguised blitzes. This one isn't even a disguised blitz, it's just Herbig stealing PSU RT Caeden Wallace's lunch money: 

#19 to the bottom of the formation

The ability to have four LB's (Sanborn, Chenal, Burks, and Herbig) who all can become a kamikaze rusher and get home, is what makes the Wisconsin defense so dangerous and also mysterious. Because it allows Jim Leonhard to line up the defense like it's doing one thing, and then pull back the curtain and reveal a different blitz. This is what I'm talking about: 

They have five men at the line and then one at the LB level. The ball is snapped and the two OLB's release and drop into coverage, while it's the ILB who comes blitzing. You have no idea who is coming at you on any given play and all of the options can be devastatingly effective. 

All of that said, if you can protect your QB/the OL can figure out a way to identify the rushers and pick them up, you can beat Wisconsin through the air. Despite a veteran secondary that knows the scheme well, there are still issues down the field. Penn State beat Wisconsin by throwing the ball down the field, despite the general troubles they had protecting Cilfford. Indeed, 143 of the 297 yards PSU gained in this game came on just three plays​​​​​​, all of them deep bombs. Blowing the top off the defense, especially when they're keying in on the run, is the way to even the playing field and give you space in the box. Stuff like this: 

That looks like a bad coverage bust, and it is, but the fact is that it wasn't an anomaly. It happened several times. PSU hit three of these deep balls, and had another wide open for a TD and Clifford missed it. Here's one more such deep shot: 

Wisconsin doesn't exactly have elite athletes in its secondary and while they play zone to try and get around this, one thing we know about zone coverages is that holes do open up, and Clifford was able to exploit them enough for the Nittany Lions to leave Madison with a W. FS Scott Nelson (#9) in particular was involved in all three instances and while I liked him as a run defender and in screen coverage, it seems he can be beaten deep. Michigan should look to maximize this advantage, especially when Cade McNamara's deep balls have looked mostly great this season. 

I say that because it is the best way to take the pressure of Wisconsin's defense off of screens and the rushing game, which are Michigan's bread and butter, and also what Wisconsin is the best at stopping. Nobody has had much success running the ball against Wisconsin this year and with that front seven, you can see why. Plays like this: 

And this: 

If you allow Wisconsin to bring their safeties down into the box, and don't give the LB's anything to do but crash the line of scrimmage, the Badgers will probably muck it up enough to grind your rushing attack to a halt. 

They also were good at blowing up screens in this one: 

PSU's OL doesn't set that one up the best, but this was a recurring pattern. 

All of this said, it's logical when I mention that life got considerably easier for PSU in the second half once Clifford began taking deep shots and hitting them. The box lightened up, and they began to target the DE's more directly and pick up a few chunk gains on the ground: 

Don't play the game Wisconsin wants you to play. 

 

See this man? USE HIM [Bryan Fuller]

What does this mean for Michigan?

The problem is that Michigan is probably going to at least attempt to play Wisconsin's game to start. Because Wisconsin wants to stuff you on the ground and Michigan wants to pave you on the ground. Someone is going to win that matchup. The question will be adjustments. Maybe Michigan finds a way to open holes even against a stacked box, but I'm hesitant to believe that. Whether or not Harbaugh and Gattis will let McNamara off the leash and allow him to target Cornelius Johnson or Daylen Baldwin down the field is my biggest question. Do that and you can get in a groove and it allows you to do some of the things you want to do on the ground. I would be very much in favor of dialing up a deep shot on the first series, to put it out there. 

Obviously, the other thing to reiterate is that this is a huge test for Michigan's OL. They got through the first three weeks with flashing colors and faced a choppier test last week against Rutgers. Now comes the big one: can they do anything against this front seven? Can they pick up the tricky blitzes? We're not asking for domination, fighting to a draw may be enough. The game will be a slog, but it could be helped by throwing it down the field. 

Comments

Hail to the Vi…

October 1st, 2021 at 10:14 AM ^

This really just feels like a game where Gattisbaugh are going to have to open up the pass offense and live with the results, be what they may.

The alternative, beating your head against bricks for 60 minutes to the tune of 2 ypc, with the occasional hitch/dig routes, I don't think will get them any closer to a W than moving the ball threw the air and turning it over a few times. Wisconsin's defense is very good, but if Michigan can setup the deep ball at the right times, Alex outlined how you can beat them over the top.

Now's the time to prove to college football and Michigan's players we are not Iowa with a talent upgrade. This game will show us if Jim Harbaugh's dedication towards rushing between the tackles runs deeper than common sense. 

If there was ever a game to unleash speed in space with some play action pass sprinkled in, it would be this one. 

GBBlue

October 1st, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^

It's really unfair to give McNamara a cyan, and not Mertz. Cade McNamara's stats: 534 yds, 62. 3 comp %, 3 tds , 0 ints. Graham Mertz stats: 566 yds, 56.8 comp %, 1 td, 6 ints.

What's the justification for the disparate treatment?

Blue Vet

October 1st, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^

I see blue skies and green grass and ponies romping in the field and little bunny rabbits hopping around and no slog. 

Don’t want slog. Want smooth and sweet.

bronxblue

October 1st, 2021 at 10:41 AM ^

That cyan for McNamara feels a bit harsh; he had some struggles last weekend but this feels a bit of an overreaction.

I've said this elsewhere but both PSU and ND have awful rushing attacks even outside of their games against Wisconsin.  Wiscy's front 7 is solid but I can't quite shake the sense that they may be coasting on bad competition.  Like, Syracuse has the nation's #7 rush defense.

I do think UM will have to throw the ball to open up Wisconsin so we'll see if they can do that.  The edges are there if UM wants to test them.

Hail to the Vi…

October 1st, 2021 at 11:05 AM ^

Agree with this take as well. Not to say Michigan will do any paving, but Wisconsin's rush defense might be merely very good rather than impenetrable. 

While it's true Michigan hasn't had to run the ball against a defense as good as Wisconsin's, they also haven't had to defend a rushing team as good as Michigan. It's a two way street.

Hail to the Vi…

October 1st, 2021 at 11:27 AM ^

Oh without a doubt. And I'm not suggesting Michigan will be able to line up and run it right at Wisconsin on 70% of their snaps. But I do think if Michigan can force Wisconsin to respect their passing game, they would be more likely to pick up some chunk yardage on the ground more so than ND or PSU. A steady dose of effective play action should allow for Corum and Haskins to find some creases occasionally over the course of the game.  

ehatch

October 1st, 2021 at 11:08 AM ^

The Cyan around Cade is complete BS. A week after going 100% in DSR, followed by a great 1st half vs. Rutgers. 6 bad passes is enough to get you a cyan after 20+ good ones? Come on. If you are dinging him for the Zone Read, don't -- which UM QB has run the Zone Read correctly? None of them. This is a coaching issue not a Cade issue. I can't wait for the first incomplete pass, you'll be calling for JJ even though he is markedly worse -- by this own site's measure. 

CraigB

October 1st, 2021 at 11:12 AM ^

MIchigan came out the gate throwing against Wisconsion in 2019 and last year, even before the routs started. Shea was just largely inaccurate, save the first pass of the 2019 game and Joe went full Joe last year.

I don't know why everyone expects them to run up the gut over and over when that hasn't been the case against Wisc recently.

They did run a lot in 2018, but it's because they could. They had 300+ yards rushing against Wisc that year.

CraigB

October 1st, 2021 at 2:00 PM ^

It's almost like Wisconsin is an entirely different team than Rutgers.

2019 - Army game - ran over and over into the box. 

Following game was Wisconsin. Did Michigan run over and over into the box or were they pass heavy before the rout even started?

So no I DON'T understand why people keep saying that when the staff has shown they approach different teams differently.

skatin@the_palace

October 1st, 2021 at 11:13 AM ^

Few thoughts: 

1. Sanborn is a dog. It'll be fun watching the linebacking corps of Wisconsin. They are very good. 

2. Seems like a "zag" game relative to the "zigs" we normally get from Michigan under Harbaugh. I'm sure the team understands how big this game is, how tough Wisconsin has been against us. It has a similar feeling to when we came out against ND and ran it down there throat in 2019, also a bit like how we came out and blew the doors off of Northwestern in 2015. 

3. Cade definitely does not seem to be it, and is limiting the offense a bit. What he's done well this year may translate this week which would be great for him! Hopeful that happens. 

Double-D

October 1st, 2021 at 11:13 AM ^

OMG Harbaugh is having dreams about how much fun it is to slam your head against this wall over and over and over again while we all collectively say WTF.  

The Homie J

October 1st, 2021 at 11:17 AM ^

The BPONE is strong in this one.  

  • This will be the toughest run game Wisky's D has faced all year (by a mile)
  • Cade and Gattis has shown before they can go bombs away when needed (Rutgers last year for Cade, Penn State/Indiana/Michigan State in 2019 for Gattis)
  • The UFR showed that our OL wasn't getting whupped vs Rutgers, but rather the RB's were missing holes and the QB wasn't helping back the defense off, despite facing little pressure on passing downs.  Assuming that our OL will just wilt right now is a big assumption.  They might have their worst game this year, but they shouldn't be assumed to fall apart against this D
  • Cade doesn't deserve a fucking cyan circle for 6 bad passes despite plenty of evidence that he can in fact hit his targets downfield just fine, especially if Mertz of all QB's didn't get one
  • Based on the spread, Vegas thinks we're slightly better but Wisky is favored only because they're at home (home field is worth about 3 pts and Wisky is favored by less than that)

Brainstorm93

October 1st, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^

Michigan needs to have Blake Corum, Roman Wilson, the fast wide receiver whose name is eluding me, Sanristil and Cornelius Johnson on the field at the same time. "Speed in space", "speed kills", whatever, overmatch the Wisconsin D with speed.

uminks

October 1st, 2021 at 11:49 AM ^

Cade will have to prove me wrong but I don't think he will be able to complete the passes needed to beat WI. I see us trying to run on WI and falling behind 14-3 at halftime. I think we will throw more in the 2nd half but be too little too late and WI will score another 24 points even if we have a few more TDs. Looks like a 38 - 17 type beat down to me. Only way this could change is if Harbaugh and Gattis opens up the offense with some good throws, which will open up the running game, then I think we have a chance to win. But, I really don't see this happening.

Hail to the Vi…

October 1st, 2021 at 1:37 PM ^

I don't see a world in which Wisconsin is going to be able to score 38 points against a B1G caliber defense. They didn't even put up 38 against Eastern Michigan, and I doubt Mertz is going to have the leash it requires in the passing game for this offense to score 5 touchdowns against Michigan.

Perhaps you will be correct, but nothing we've seen from Wisconsin this year suggests they can score 5 touchdowns against Michigan's defense. 

I think the first to 14 will win this game. 

MGoBlue96

October 1st, 2021 at 2:03 PM ^

I get the pessism regarding the offense, but come on the odds of Wisconsin scoring 38 short of scoring multiple non offensive tds is incredibly small. UMs defense is decent this year, they are not last years defense, and Wisconsin's offense has even more problems than UM's offense including at QB. Like seriously, there is Bpone and then insane Bpone where you think Wisconsin is going to score that much. Honestly 17 points for UM might be enough to win this game.

Perkis-Size Me

October 1st, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^

"Don't play the game Wisconsin wants you to play."

Truer words have never been spoken. The issue is, as you mentioned, I don't trust this coaching staff to NOT do that. Or to not at least try until by the time they decide to do something else, its 28-0 Wisconsin and its already too late. 

I get that Harbaugh has an identity he wants to imprint on this team. The guy wants to run the ball, and he has two great RBs who can do that. I get it. But if that is all you try to do against this defense, you are leaving Madison with a loss. I don't care how bad Graham Mertz is. Cade can throw the ball. Let the guy throw. If you want to win, he's got to be a factor tomorrow. 

Michigan has to introduce the threat of the pass tomorrow. At least just to keep Wisconsin honest. Go deep on that first series. Even if you don't hit, its okay.You're introducing the threat of it to Wisconsin and that may cause them to back off the line a bit. That's when you can decide you want to feed the ball to Corum/Haskins, and at that point you're forcing Wisconsin to pick their poison.

But if all you do is run right at them, guys like Sanborn are going to freaking tee off on you with a big smile on their face, shut you down completely and the game will already be lost. 

 

 

AlbanyBlue

October 1st, 2021 at 12:51 PM ^

The commenters have it right. Michigan must break the tendencies they have shown all season to have a chance in this game. Pass to open up the run, or leave with an L.

Giving Cade a cyan is ridiculous. Most of his running game issues are on the coaches, either making him do something (read) he really can't do, or making it some kind half-ass fakey thing that actually makes it easier on the D. As far as passing, he had a bad half, and if that continues, he'll deserve the circle. But not yet.

Dean Pelton

October 1st, 2021 at 1:25 PM ^

Will be a good day to get some yard work done before the rain hits Sunday, and check the score around 4pm. If Michigan can actually execute a game plan to win this game I will be extremely surprised. 

MGlobules

October 1st, 2021 at 2:50 PM ^

I don't find the overall tone of this piece so negative. And the way everyone's pouncing on Cyan Cade may say as much about the overall mood--about surly posters--as the choice.

But I think it's an error, strategic as well as actual. Mertz has outright sucked. I'm prepared to be happily surprised. 

OTOH, should we sit on the ball all day. . . this may be a very good litmus test of Harbaugh. EVERYTHING points to the need for a diversified offense in this game.

The Geek

October 1st, 2021 at 4:53 PM ^

Let’s hope the screen pass is permanently removed from the playbook. It hasn’t worked even once.
 

We need to get Johnson and Baldwin downfield touches early and often. 

Jevablue

October 1st, 2021 at 7:29 PM ^

We have the players. Not feeling it on the coaching.  
 

To elaborate, I can see Harbaugh/ Gattis running the same inside run play 10 times with no success, making indeterminately small changes each time, just to see if it will work for 4 yds once.  
 

I’ll continue the cynicism until they give me a reason to stop.