On Urban Meyer: "Happiness is for losers"
That's not a quote from him, it's a quote about him in a scathing review of his career in the Guardian, a British newspaper. A very interesting read.
February 25th, 2021 at 1:09 PM ^
It's relevant because DOUBLE POST! (Nuff said)
February 25th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^
The Guardian is based in the UK but also has a US online edition. They have recognized that there are 330 million sets of eyeballs in this country, so they cover a lot of our news, too.
Regardless, is there anything they said about Meyer that isn't true?
February 25th, 2021 at 9:45 AM ^
Not much followed at all in the UK. They follow football (soccer), rugby, formula 1, cricket and some boxing.
They actually laugh at our sports.
John Cleese:
"When we hold a World Championship for a particular sport, we invite teams from other countries to play, as well."
February 25th, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^
Oh, so because we're Americans we're not allowed to have an opinion about FIFA corruption of European football hooliganism?
February 25th, 2021 at 8:36 AM ^
"I hate Urban Meyer he's such a criminal sociopath that drowns puppies..."
"Do you think we have a chance if we fire Harbaugh?"
February 25th, 2021 at 8:44 AM ^
On Urban Meyer: "Happiness is for losers"
On the one hand it's hard to argue with his professional success. On the other hand he's had to retire twice for health related reasons. You'd have to assume there is a balance between acceptance and enjoying life and pushing harder for better results. I'd guess if his ways hypothetically cost him 20 years of his life he might think differently on his death bed and realize I could have learned to relax and enjoy life a bit more. Professional success is certainly a high priority for many. But, certainly there's more to life than being successful. It makes me wonder what the people close to him feel about him. Does he spend time with friends, family, his wife, his children, etc.? Or is spending time with family also for losers?
February 25th, 2021 at 8:58 AM ^
His wife does his dirty work with Zach Smith’s wife behind the scenes and his daughter defends him on Twitter like a rapid dog. I’m guessing they feel fine about him.
February 25th, 2021 at 9:13 AM ^
He's an excellent provider ?♂️
February 25th, 2021 at 2:47 PM ^
He's an excellent provider ?♂️
And, that's not to be dismissed. That's an important thing. He gives them both a lifestyle they otherwise wouldn't have access to. That has significant value. But, as I was saying in the reply to the other person above, you'd have to think he could achieve similar results with a little better life balance. Your kid is only young once and you don't get those years back. But, Urban is already a millionaire for life.
February 25th, 2021 at 10:22 AM ^
Boy howdy, I'm going to have a hard time unseeing my mental picture of Urban Meyer's "wife doing his dirty work with Zach Smith's wife." Gee thanks /s/
February 25th, 2021 at 2:35 PM ^
His wife does his dirty work with Zach Smith’s wife behind the scenes and his daughter defends him on Twitter like a rapid dog. I’m guessing they feel fine about him.
That doesn't surprise me for a few reasons. As the daughter of a high profile man when you hear someone criticizing your dad publicly your instinct is to defend him. And for Shelley, Urban certainly offers many things beyond his time and energy. He can provide a comfortable lifestyle where Shelley can focus on her own personal interests without worrying about how to financially support the family. That is significant. But, behind closed doors and with that aside, I'd be curious to know if they each wished Urban spent more time with them or if he was better able to find a work/life balance that put them a bit higher on his list of priorities over work. Certainly you'd think Urban could have similar success while still remaining wealthy and having more time for balance. But, these aren't things they're likely to put out there publicly.
February 25th, 2021 at 9:12 AM ^
I think Michigan thought it was hiring someone who'd grind 24/7/365, but it got someone who spends time with family.
So as Michigan fans we can answer that question each for ourselves, and then collectively.
Do we want a coach who enjoys work/life balance, or one feels there is nothing more important than success?
And in major college/NFL football, can a coach have both?
February 25th, 2021 at 10:28 AM ^
I don't think our problem with Harbaugh is his spending time with his family or other non-football activities. Heck, being a well rounded "winner" who does things the right way is kind of a Michigan kink.
Our problem is that for the first time in his career, his schemes are unimaginative and predictable, and he is unable to develop any QB from any source into an above average performer.
February 25th, 2021 at 1:26 PM ^
Ah, but is this "the first time" because his priorities have shuffled, even if unconsciously, over the past however many years?
The coaching changes this off-season give me hope he's re-energizing his competitive fires & refocusing his attention to getting relevant again!
But ask yourself (and I'm asking, not answering):
Is Jay Harbaugh the best possible coach Michigan could get in 2021? Maybe.
Was he in 2017-20 though?!
February 25th, 2021 at 3:23 PM ^
I think Michigan thought it was hiring someone who'd grind 24/7/365, but it got someone who spends time with family.
Do we want a coach who enjoys work/life balance, or one feels there is nothing more important than success?
I used to work Dan Nichol as an assistant S&C coach when he was at UMaine. Dan caught on with PJ Fleck at Western and followed him to Minnesota and now makes $400,000/year. I could have gone that route and worked towards being a P5 football head S&C coach. While not the level of Urban, I could make a lot more money. But, I took a look around at the lifestyles of the coaches and I said "no thanks". Now, I teach HS PE and am our HS's S&C coach. I get out of work at 2:30pm. Then, I lift with my athletes for a few hours and am home by 5pm every night and I get weekends, holidays, and summers free. I sacrificed money for that, but think it's worth it.
It's hard to imagine what it would be like making $10 million. And, it's hard looking from the outside what JH or Meyer's lives are like and how they are different. As a fan, I'd rather have the Urban. Does he really do any more than JH? I have no idea. And, while I'm sure the "happiness is for losers" attitude might help you professionally, I'd also guess he could achieve similar success with a bit more balance.
February 25th, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^
Good for you. You can’t put a price on time well spent.
February 25th, 2021 at 9:32 AM ^
Did he really walk away for health reasons OR did he drum up health reasons as a convenient way to get out of scandals?
February 25th, 2021 at 2:18 PM ^
Probably a little of both.
I don't think highly of Meyer but don't fault him for taking care of his brain.
But my imagine is since stayed close game via OSU and his FOX gig, he probably thought he's rested and the fire still burns so why not jump back in.
February 26th, 2021 at 8:11 AM ^
I'm not sure those two are mutually exclusive. It's mainly the stress that exacerbates his brain cyst. Although football and the pressure to win is part of that stress, so are these scandals. I have to assume the two go hand in hand. Also, once the court of public opinion starts turning on you it's hard to turn them back. A fresh start at a new school goes a long way to restoring hope and good faith. So I'm guessing at each stop he's probably feeling the stress from both football and scandals and looking around the landscape and thinking "It's probably time for a change." I think it would be disingenuous to say it has nothing to do with the scandals. It's probably disingenuous to it's all about the scandals as well. But, what he says publicly is unlikely to be the whole story so you have to take his comments with a grain of salt.
February 25th, 2021 at 8:48 AM ^
Every time I forget he even exists because who cares if he's the coach of Jacksonville one of you all bring him back up. Really wish we could let him go now.
Go Blue! Beat Iowa!!!
February 25th, 2021 at 3:38 PM ^
Really wish we could let him go now.
Hard to when the ass kicking he gave us in 2018 has really set been the turning point in the rivalry for which we have not been competitive since. Then he walked off into the sunset.
February 25th, 2021 at 8:52 AM ^
So if Happiness is for Losers,
and Urban Meyer eats Pizza when he's a Loser
Then Pizza = Happiness.
Math checks out.
February 25th, 2021 at 8:58 AM ^
Don't need math to tell me that, but I think you're onto something.
February 25th, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
Just saw that BTN is producing a remake of this Will Smith classic
February 25th, 2021 at 9:01 AM ^
Q:You know what they make you do in Urban Meyers office?
A:Toss the salad
February 25th, 2021 at 2:21 PM ^
Is that with jelly or syrup?
February 25th, 2021 at 9:56 AM ^
We need some humor on this Board - Can someone do an Opponents Watch for basketball?
February 25th, 2021 at 10:29 AM ^
Hear hear!
February 25th, 2021 at 10:14 AM ^
Most of this is stuff we've already heard, but it's still interesting to see it all written out. I would like to say that Meyer's constant reliance on "health" as a reason for his departures, and the trials and tribulations he goes through during a season, always drive me crazy. It's an attempt to absolve himself of a certain level of liability for his actions, as if being an cynical, morally ambiguous person who cares only about winning is somehow the inevitable outcome of him trying to do this job.
February 25th, 2021 at 10:23 AM ^
Article says he left OSU for health reasons. Somehow I remember him being let go instead.
February 25th, 2021 at 1:03 PM ^
whiney, cringeworthy post.
February 25th, 2021 at 1:15 PM ^
Izzo is a sociopath as well. Can’t believe people have bought his bullshit for so long.
February 25th, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^
If msu people think Izzo's "bullshit" is a problem, I think that just started this year.
Just like Dantonio - if you're winning it ain't BS, it's Michigan HATE!
February 25th, 2021 at 2:15 PM ^
The article is right on. Urban Meyer is a good football coach but a terrible human being. This has been demonstrated again and again.
I'm not sure why posters here are shooting the messenger.
February 25th, 2021 at 2:36 PM ^
“Even in the cesspit of college athletics, people have limits. Meyer does not.” Yeah, scathing would be the word to describe the article.
February 25th, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^