December 5th, 2020 at 8:24 PM ^
Not quite understanding how Allen doesn't get brought up more often as Harbaugh's replacement.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:28 PM ^
Over 50 and an IU alum. Kinda the same reason nobody tries to pry Fitzgerald away from NW
Plus this is really IU's first year over the hump. Only other winning season with Allen was last year
December 5th, 2020 at 8:50 PM ^
Because he's not considered a good cultural fit for M. He belongs to a Christian fellowship that's openly homophobic, for one thing.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:18 PM ^
I’m genuinely interested in where you think Tom Allen goes to church and if you can point out exactly where they are homophobic? I know we shouldn’t get into religion here, but your statement is so misguided it deserves to be called out. I’ll wait for your response.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:09 PM ^
https://www.thestarpress.com/story/sports/high-school/2018/04/26/tom-al…
He's a member of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. If you do research on them, there's a pledge they have members sign about marriage purity that excludes homosexuality. It's kind of a convoluted associated to make, because it doesn't necessarily mean Allen supports that belief. But that's what his comment is referring to, I'm assuming
December 6th, 2020 at 3:47 PM ^
Oh shucks, someone has a different perspective on things than you do. Will you be able to survive it?
December 5th, 2020 at 8:26 PM ^
Congrats to Indiana.
Coach Allen has built a strong team with a lot of upperclassmen - it’s the recipe for lower tier programs to turn into a winner without top tier recruiting. Transfer Tuttle was very solid and the D was exceptional.
UM should never have such a young roster that limits its competitiveness.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:31 PM ^
Our players would say our coach is the worst in America. They wouldn’t be wrong.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^
Waaa waaaa
December 5th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^
It’s really hard to doubt Tom Allen at this point. They have no business having this kind of success with their roster and institutional disadvantages.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:48 PM ^
Really happy for that team. Had so many close calls in years past. They earned it, too.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:57 PM ^
It truly is stunning seeing the support IU players have for Allen vs UM players for Harbaugh.
Their players love the guy while our players constantly have a look of “Good lord, how fast can I get away from this asshole” on their faces.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^
Allen is a great fit there.
What fans of blue-blood programs often don't understand is that college football can be a source of great joy if you can win two out of three games consistently. 8-4 most years, with some 7-5s and 9-3s, and a once a decade 10-2 is enough to make it worthwhile for fans to emotionally invest. They tailgate, and meet up with old friends, and most weeks they celebrate a win.
If your team has never been a national power, you can get excited about your two or three 4* recruits each year. You can enjoy your QB setting school records with today's high-powered offenses. You can go crazy when GameDay visits once every four years-- it's a genuine treat, rare enough that it always feels special, but common enough that a kid who spends 5 years in the program is more likely than not to experience it.
There's just an enormous difference between being a .500 team and a .667 team. It's the difference between being disappointed half the time, versus only one-third of the time. It's the difference between being able to catch lightning in a bottle every once in a while and put a scare into a highly rated team, versus having the stars align and actually pulling off the upset.
I think Allen can be an 8-4 coach at Indiana, and I think that would be a successful career.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^
Oh please against a team playing their 3rd string center, second string QB, WR 5-7 string? OSU would kill them a second time
December 5th, 2020 at 10:26 PM ^
and we talk about player support for IU, how about fan support of IU. As fans, if we had the same record as IU over the last 5 years we would be calling for Tom's head!
December 6th, 2020 at 8:23 AM ^
I think people need to keep perspective. Tom Allen is clearly a good coach and knows how to get his players going. Those kids looked like they would run through a brick wall for him and were not afraid to show their love for the coach on national TV (also showing how approachable he allows himself to be... you will probably never see players group hugging Saban or Meyer like that). That is something important... but not enough by itself.
Let's talk about the records: Allen has gotten IU back to respectable middle status for a few years now... although that was mostly true for Kevin Wilson also. This season has been absolutely special, but how do those results look when the context is added? The PSU, UM, and MSU wins really weren't that impressive in retrospect because those three teams are in such poor states this season. The only outcomes that were really surprise upsides (again, in retrospect) were the near miss at OSU and the win at Wisc. Had this been a "normal" year for all involved, IU probably finishes with about the same record as last year - which is still an accomplishment. Basically, the 2020 record might not be reproducible but is still outstanding.
As others have pointed out, this seems like a Pat Fitzgerald situation: good (but not wirld-beating) coach that is just about the best possible position wrt the balance of talent/expectations and can occasionally pull off a great year (except Pat has it slightly easier since he plays in the Big Ten West).
It would be nice (for IU's sake, though not UM's) if he take it even further... I'm just not sure that us reasonable. The power teams he beat this year are unlikely to stay down that long - and he might not be able to keep his staff together after this year.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:29 PM ^
and to recap the Tom Allen record at Indiana:
5-7 2017
5-7 2018
8-7 2019
5-1 2020
Tom is having a great year, but let's not act as if we as fans wouldn't have ran him out the door with that record.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:47 PM ^
You can't compare records to each other head to head because that assumes all programs are equal in terms of resources and scheduling
I would expect Urban Meyer to go undefeated at OSU in any given year, while I would also expect him to go 6-6 at Rutgers his first year, and maybe 5-11 if he coached the Jets next year
It's about performance relative to the job difficulty. I get that it can be frustrating that Michigan can go 10-3 and be railed on for not beating OSU, while Indiana can do the same and get praised. But the difference in built-in advantages and resources is really astounding to the point where it really is incredible that a program like Indiana can compete with a juggernaut like OSU
December 5th, 2020 at 10:59 PM ^
At Michigan your damned if you go 12-1 or 1-12... But, in all honesty, if Michigan miraculously plays and beats osu next saturday then all is forgiven.
That's the bottom line at michigan... Beating OSU, nothing else really matters.
December 5th, 2020 at 11:49 PM ^
Beating crap MSU teams and staying competitive with Penn State is important. All we ask is to try not to get absolutely slaughtered by OSU and beat Penn State and MSU, that’s not so hard is it?
December 6th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^
lmao when was the last time Michigan went 12-1? I'll wait for your answer b/c you're full of shit.
The fanbase would never poopoo a 12-1 season at a school that has only seen 5 11 W seasons in its history. GTFO with your trolling
December 5th, 2020 at 11:53 PM ^
Apples and turnips comparison....
Just like those that cite Campbell's 8 wins at ISU as 'unimpressive'
The record you suggest is poor is at Indiana.
IU's overall record is 487–677–45... which pretty much boils down to 5-7. The last time they won the B1G was 1967.
Allen's 8 win season in 2019 was the first since 1984...
so, yeah, what he's done is amazing, because its INDIANA football
December 5th, 2020 at 11:59 PM ^
I'm not taking anything away from Tom Allen.. that man has been great for Indiana, especially after the Kevin Wilson fiasco. To think he will leave Indiana to coach at Michigan is what I find to be absurd.
If you take this current season out of the equation, I don't think many UM fans would even want him here.
I do like that he has Michigan alum on his staff. If he ever came to Michigan, which again he probably won't, our fanbase would not give him the time of day because only one thing will ever matter: beating OSU.
Whoever coaches our team next year, that's what I want them to eat sleep and shit. Beat fucking osu.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:21 AM ^
My issue with what you were suggesting was that Indiana and Michigan are equal programs, when clearly they are not.
Allen's coaching record, when viewed through the lens of Indiana football, looks like its going to be the best era since Bill Mallory in the eighties.
And even though Mallory won back to back Big 10 Coach of the Year award, his record at Indiana was 69-77-3.
This is the winningest coach in Indiana history...at a sub .500 record. That's why what Allen has done is pretty amazing.
That record would never fly at Michigan, because Michigan has a ton more resources that they can plow into facilities, coaching salaries, support staff. Last year, Indiana football made 52 M. Michigan was the highest earner in the B1G at 122 million dollars.
Michigan has been historically better... and if Harbaugh plodded along between 8-10 wins a season, he'd probably have this job for life. But its not simply the losing this year; its the absolute ass kickings that have happened over the last two years. Losing while looking competitive is one thing - getting embarrassed is another...and now its not 'just' OSU kicking sand in Michigan's faces, its teams like Wisconsin, MSU, winless PSU team, with 5 Fr on offense and missing as many star players as Michigan was...hell, it took triple OT to beat Rutgers, and that only happened because they missed a chip shot FG
I agree that Tom Allen would never leave Indiana for Michigan - He's an Indiana alum. Michigan is in the same division. No way that happens... personally, I like the guy, but would prefer a younger coach anyways if possible.
December 6th, 2020 at 9:12 AM ^
LaBatts, that is a nice assessment. Historically speaking, has IU invested more into their basketball program?
I am in agreement regarding the ass kicking from other teams. If you are advising Harbaugh, what would you tell him?
December 6th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^
If I were advising Harbaugh I’d tell to go through his clothes and see what he’s no longer wearing and donate that to goodwill. Makes it a lot easier to pack up and move when you simplify and get rid of items you don’t need to take to your new house.
Id also advise hiring movers. Jim has plenty of money so it’s not worth the risk of pulling his back to move a sofa. My final piece of advise would be to watch the door to prevent it from hitting him where the good lord split him.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:36 PM ^
Honestly, I like that guy... he reminds me a little bit of Lloyd, who could be very surly with the press. That washes when you are winning; not so well when you are losing.
In terms of what i would do if i were to advise Harbaugh:
Firstly - whether he honestly believes he has the same passion for coaching? That doesn't mean ability, it means love, passion... The guy Michigan hired hated losing more than he liked winning. I just don't see that anymore.
Secondly, revamp your scouting, as I don't see many guys that are absolute killers - that doesn't necessarily mean stars, but often correlates.
I think umgoblue11's diary was bang on in a lot of ways.
If you haven't established an identity, there aren't prototypical types you pursue (with the lone exception of Viper, where you could begin to see that)....Wisconsin's teams look virtually the same every year, because they have an identity and recruit to it.
Michigan isn't good enough to attract the best of the best (though top 10-12 classes should be bearing better results)
While this may read as an endorsement of Campbell, i suggest you read on the recruitment of Breese Hall ...how they identified him early and how they kept him after he blew up..
ISU has dogs on the recruiting trail and have a structured system to identify talent.
Revamping the coordinators is a given imo.
Not sure about numbers, but Indiana has always been a basketball school, so presumably that money was more skewed to basketball, but the reality is football brings in the most more due to TV and attendance numbers...as well as the B1G's mandate to split bowl earnings and TV equally between schools
December 5th, 2020 at 11:40 PM ^
And with a backup qb no less. I saw last season that Allen had it, at least the way the team plays together so consistently. A guy like him risks losing way too much to leave a program intradivision. Almost a lose lose scenario. And money isn't everything here. He has a great thing going there and little chance he comes here, if that were the hope of this thread.
December 5th, 2020 at 11:51 PM ^
We are trash this year, because of the strange year it is more than anything else.
It's amazing how LSU was an awesome team, last year, and this year they look like trash. Injuries, youth, and Covid stuff. No excuse! Losing to Alabama by 38 points, with 4 minutes left in the 4th. Fire everyone! ?
I guess the narrative of "next man up", "everyone else is managing Covid", etc.... Are all such great takes.
The truth is....during this strange Covid and limited practice time....all the teams that have a lot of experienced players are doing well, and the teams that are young and dealing with injuries are not.
Two years ago, we went into the final game of the season as a top 5 team, the #1 defense in the country, blowout wins over Wisconsin/PSU/MSU, and undefeated in conference.....after an off-season where our long time defensive coach (ex DC and then current DL coach) and another defensive coach left to go to Ohio State. We shared the Division title (which in the time before conference championship games would have been a shared Conference Championship...like Bo and Lloyd got). Somehow, we get smoked by OSU, that year, and our fan base talks like we were still in the RR or Hoke era, of LOSING SEASONS.
The teams like Alabama, Clemson, and OSU are on a different level than EVERYONE else, right now, so the Covid stuff didn't affect them much. The other teams doing well are experienced teams that haven't been ravaged by injuries.
Hell....even Alabama struggled (to their standards, anyway) once Tua went down, last year. That was just one guy.
We are both young/inexperienced AND ravaged with injuries. It's kinda hard to "coach up" players, when practice time is limited...to....you know.....COACH THEM. LOL
This doom and gloom, about our team is so annoying, and lacks any kind of perspective.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:23 AM ^
Harbaugh has been trash since the loss to Iowa in 2016. Shut up and stop making excuses! Stop worshiping then man! He fucking sucks as a head coach. That’s been obvious since his second season. I was just blinded like many others by the Michigan man bullshit! Open your eyes and hire Matt Campbell or Tom Allen!
December 6th, 2020 at 3:26 AM ^
Actually winning a national championship buys you some leeway with the fanbase - shocking i know.
that 2018 OSU game where "somehow" they got smoked you reference was followed by a bigger ass kicking by OSU in 2019...If Michigan plays next week, I expect the loss would be historic in nature. In fact, Mattison and Washington left after that 2018 game...all hands were on deck for that 62-39 whopping
so a three way split in 2018, since NW was also 8-1 in conference play, is somehow the metric for success in 6 years? With the other 5 years being 3rd or worse in the B1G East division?
What's the rationale for 5 finishes in 3rd place or worse in the B1G East Division?
The doom and gloom is based on performance - what's your optimism based on?
December 6th, 2020 at 9:50 AM ^
I’d be on board with keeping Jim if he had won the national championship and had a an heisman the previous year. Jim has none of these things because he isn’t good.
Cajun Hoke may not be good either but last year was amazing for LSU. I’d take that in a heartbeat. But Jim brings all of the disappointments and none of the successes.
December 6th, 2020 at 2:58 PM ^
Ummm....so a shared National championship (after back to back 4 loss seasons), when there was no Championship game, followed by 10 mediocre to terrible seasons is acceptable? Carr took over a good Michigan team (that was good for a while), and here were his results (after that Shared National Championship):
10 seasons: 3 seasons of less than 3 losses. 1 outright BIG Championship (No Divisions or BIG Championship game to navigate). 3-5 Bowl Record. 2 losses to a very bad MSU program. 3-7 vs OSU (2 of those OSU teams were really bad). Lost to a division 1AA school
That was followed by:
Richard Rodriguez era
3-9 lost to 7-6 MSU and 10-3 OSU
5-7 lost to 6-7 MSU and 11-2 OSU
7-6 lost to 11-2 MSU and 12-1 OSU
Brady Hoke Era
11-2 Lost to 11-3 MSU and Beat 6-7 OSU
8-5 Beat 7-6 MSU and lost to 12-0 OSU
7-6 Lost to 13-1 MSU and 12-2 OSU
5-7 Lost to 11-2 MSU and 14-1 (National Champion) OSU
That's 18 straight years (the same as the age of the recruits that Harbaugh took over) of pure mediocrity or "trash". For the ENTIRE LIVES of the recruits! Lol
The Hoke and RR years (8 years) of being on the same level as Purdue. A joke. A team that was more famous (to the recruits) for losing to Appalachian State, stretchgate, and concussiongate.....losing a bunch of times in a row to MSU, OSU, and getting shutout against Notre Dame.....than being "good". Being ranked at the end of the season. LMAO. We were just happy to have more wins than losses, at that point.
So....my "optimizim" is based on:
Harbaugh Era (Pre-Covid strangeness):
1. IMMEDIATE resurrection of the program.
2. Michigan being back in a respected position, among the eyes of recruits.
3. Out of 5 seasons.....all five had more wins than the combined totals of RR's first season and Hoke's final season.
4. Five seasons....10 wins 3 times (which was done only 6 times in Carr's 13 seasons). A 9 win season. His worst year (8 wins) were the same amount as RR's first season and Hoke's final season Combined, and still better than Carr's worst season (7 wins).
Carr didn't have "divisions" to worry about. The OSU that Carr had to go against was not the DEATH STAR that Harbaugh has had to go against. It was possible to win or share the conference championship without beating OSU (which Carr had a losing record against). That isn't the case, now.
My "optimistic" view is that watching Michigan football for the last 23 years, and seeing the last 5 being among the best seasons Michigan has had during that time.
Judging ANY coach on this season is moronic, and shortsighted....and only is narrative driven.
You say the National Championship bought Carr some leeway? What does bringing the program out of the gutter get Harbaugh? It sure as hell isn't "leeway", among an irrational and (unearned) entitled fan base.
I'm a true Michigan fan, and I'll bleed blue until I die. The "fans" that I read, on here, every day make me ashamed that we root for the same team. I can see why other fan bases hate the Michigan fan base. The entitled and grandiose attitude is sickening. From the 1998 season till now.....there have been 3 seasons that Michigan went into the OSU game in a legitimate discussion of possible National Championship aspirations. 2 of those 3 were from a guy that took over a TERRIBLE program, in his first 5 years. Yeah...let's run him out of town, and bring in some guy that we "hope" can destroy the Death Star that is OSU. I say "hope", because that's all it is. More than likely, we'll see more of the RR and Hoke eras, and be happy when we get back to Harbaugh results.....then the cycle will repeat when this fan base runs that guy off, because they aren't satisfied with their expectations.
December 6th, 2020 at 4:14 PM ^
Actually, the NC referred to was that by Ogeron, whom you were mocking suggesting ought to be fired.
By the end of the Carr era, when he started losing consistently to Tressell's OSU team, any leeway that was afforded to him by previous success had all but evaporated...None of the replies were referencing the Carr era, so unfortunately, that research has gone for naught.
Not sure where this "18 straight seasons of mediocracy" is referring to... Carr's seasons following the NMC have 5 seasons of 10 or more wins, 3 seasons with 9 wins, 1 x 8 win and 1 x 7 wins... If anything, that is suspiciously Harbaugh like... minus the 11 win season in 2007 where Michigan was ranked #2 in the nation until losing to OSU. Carr won the B1G title outright in 2003 and had a share of it in 2000 and 2004
if you go through coaching changes, the best coaches actually won something by their 4-5th year with a brand new program.
Saban x 2 (NC), Meyer x 2 (NC), Swinney (NC) Tressell (NC), Stoops (NC), Malzahn (NC runner up), Smart (NC runner up), Carr (NC), Miles (NC), Petersen (CFP), Fisher (NC), Riley (CFP), Carroll (NC)...Kelly (NC runner up) even Dantonio and Franklin have B1G titles, in spite of Meyer led OSU squads.
A lot of those guys inherited programs that were in just as bad shape as Michigan.
Five 3rd place finishes in the East Division is a fact - that's not a 'narrative'
December 6th, 2020 at 5:00 PM ^
My reference to LSU was just to illustrate that even awesome teams are struggling this year. Youth/inexperience and injuries have crushed several teams. Michigan has just hit the jackpot in both hurdles....that other teams are also struggling with.
Saban and Meyer had both won National Championships at their previous locations. Went to places that have EXCELLENT in state recruiting. Possibly the two best coaches of ALL TIME. Glad they did well at those two schools. OSU wasn't a tire fire when Tressel took over. They just needed to "get over the hump". NOT the same situation that Harbaugh took over. Those other coaches have built in advantages, that Michigan does not...and were NOT in as bad as shape as Michigan. AND....you are vastly over stating some of those "successes". Dantonio got to build a program on the back of Michigan being terrible. Their rise was when Michigan fell, and their fall was when Michigan became relevant again. Love the example though. Franklin.....lol. The year that you are referring to....what happened against Michigan, that year? You know....a Harbaugh coached team? I know....because I was at that game. The rest of his tenure has been on par with Harbaugh’s tenure. Hell...even THIS YEAR has been similar to Harbaugh.
The bottom line is....Harbaugh bought us out of the gutter. He has a historically great OSU team in his own division, which skews his numbers. There's no Charles Woodson or Cameron Newton on the roster, that has helped others. Bringing us out of the gutter has bought him some "leeway", in my mind. This year doesn't sway that in either direction. The venomous nature of this fan base is just ridiculous.
Harbaugh has shown the ability to succeed, at Michigan. He has earned the "rope" needed to "get over the top" now. Cause, that's where he's brought us. To a position to "get over the top", which is FAR BETTER than what he took over.....getting us out of the gutter
December 6th, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
There are a number of programs listed that were as moribund as Michigan when Harbaugh was hired. Not all, but at least half.
Even if one accepts that OSU is unbeatable (which isn't the case, as Dantonio and Franklin proved, despite Michigan beating down PSU that year), it still doesn't explain finishing behind OSU and someone else in 5 of 6 years...so you can "LOL" if you want, but that doesn't take that B1G Championship away from PSU.
Transcendental athletes make a difference - however, its still on the staff to recruit and develop those players...so you can lament not having a Woodson or a Newton, but who's fault is that?
I will respectfully agree to disagree, as neither of us are going to be swayed...
December 6th, 2020 at 6:19 PM ^
One question.
How many of those teams that beat OSU did OSU have circled on their calendar, all year?
Only Michigan gets that privilege. Sneaking up on a team that is overlooking you is a hell of a lot easier than beating a juggernaut that wants to beat you as much as they want to win Championships.
The only team that can brag, against OSU (since Meyer's first year, til now) is Clemson. Unless you think we are on the same level as Clemson (lol) then your argument still lacks any real quality.
Many juggernaut teams have lost games they shouldn't. Because they think the name on the front of their jerseys is enough to win against inferior competition. As a Michigan blog....we understand that more than any other program. We have decades of examples of Michigan losing to teams they have no business of losing to (the "Horror" being the easiest example). OSU isn't any different. However, Michigan will never get that opportunity against OSU, because they will never overlook Michigan.
The 2017 year saw the #2 ranked Clemson Tigers lose to Syracuse, for example. It happens, when teams overlook over teams.
Saying "this guy did it" doesn't mean they are better coaches than Harbaugh. They are just in different circumstances.
December 6th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^
Aside from the fact that this Michigan is 2-17 in the last 19 years, presumably with them circling the OSU game, you would think that the team that is 17-2 might tend to overlook "that school up north" once in a while. And you would also think that 2 win school ought to feel a little more motivated to be the ones to break that streak.
If OSU 'cares more' about the game, with a current 8 game win streak, then the Michigan coaches are doing something wrong.
The best example of a bitter rivalry outside of Michigan/OSU is probably the Iron Bowl... and that rivalry certainly has more balance despite the Alabama Death Star, which happens to be bigger than the OSU Death Star.
December 6th, 2020 at 2:57 PM ^
Immediate stopped reading after the first sentence. The rest can be much better after that ice breaker.
December 6th, 2020 at 6:32 PM ^
Harbaugh defenders point to OSU and pretend it’s his only hurdle. Forgetting to mention 3-3 MSU, with a loss to Mel Tucker, losing 3 of the last four to Frames, losing 3 of the last four to Wisconsin. Losing the last 4 bowl games.
Harbaugh is doodoo baby. 8 million dollar contract for 3 million dollar results.
December 6th, 2020 at 12:21 AM ^
That’s a coach I want for my program! His players clearly love playing for him. I hope Indiana starts recruiting better if he does stay with the program. My god that man deserves a higher paying job. Probably end up at a school with a smart athletic director. I’m so glad we have Harbaugh and warde. They scream healthy program and intelligence!
December 6th, 2020 at 3:57 AM ^
Good for them. For nearly the entirety of their existence they’ve either been a doormat or the “awwwww so close but thank you for playing” program. They deserve some semblance of success. I’m sure Archie Miller is happy to have some cover on campus after his basketball teams have been underachieving.
This all just makes me think how truly awful Michigan football is this year if Northwestern and IU can both hold Wisconsin to under 15 points each, and Wisconsin proceeds to come to Ann Arbor and dick slap us with nearly a 50 point beat down. Did this team just flat out quit after MSU?
December 6th, 2020 at 8:08 AM ^
December 6th, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^
Future Michigan coach Tom Allen did a good job.
December 6th, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
December 6th, 2020 at 9:41 AM ^
I lost a bet with a Hoosier back in the early 90's. Had to pose for this pic. Ya know, it doesn't seem so bad now.
December 7th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^
News flash, but Wisconsin isn't that good. Did they blow Michigan away? Without a doubt but Milton put Michigan in a huge hole and Wisconsin just sat back and ran the ball. Michigan's front seven, this season can't stop anyone from running, especially anyone with a power run game. Toss in some crossing patterns and they will make an average QB look lights out as well.
Just like people didn't get a realistic barometer when Michigan played Minnesota, you will not get a reliable read playing Michigan this season.
December 7th, 2020 at 2:50 PM ^
News flash, but Wisconsin isn't that good. Did they blow Michigan away? Without a doubt but Milton put Michigan in a huge hole and Wisconsin just sat back and ran the ball. Michigan's front seven, this season can't stop anyone from running, especially anyone with a power run game. Toss in some crossing patterns and they will make an average QB look lights out as well.
Just like people didn't get a realistic barometer when Michigan played Minnesota, you will not get a reliable read playing Michigan this season.