Our Offense: Pure Gattis, Pure Harbaugh, or a Frankenstein?
I'm not an offense expert, so I'm not qualified to make a full judgment on this, so for those of you who are better experts on offense, but would you say that what you saw against MSU last week was Gattis's offense finally waking up, Harbaugh taking the reins back, or a "Frankenstein" hybrid of the two?
I ask because the people I've talked to can't seem to agree as to whether or not what we're seeing is actually different from years past.
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:03 PM ^
It's clearly a hybrid.
The things I am happiest about is that we seem finally willing (or able?) to attack the edges of the field, utilize our WR talent more, and actively scheme to attack opponent weaknesses.
Shea is also improving, and if he can get a bit better with his accuracy and decision-making, we could be a top-20 offense by year's end.
If Dylan is Shea-plus (or at least Shea) and we can reload on the OL, next season looks pretty bright.
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^
Our offensive is offensive. Prior to Penn State, the bad kind of offensive. Since then, the good kind of offensive.
Beyond that, don't know don't care as long as it works.
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:14 PM ^
Any good offense evolves, borrowing useful plays from other offenses (whether that be other teams' offenses or even the same team's 18 offense). The amount of consternation around clearly defining these elements and pinpointing the individual coaching contributions is just message board/radio blather.
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:44 PM ^
finkel is einhorn, einhorn is finkel
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^
I blame the existence of this thread on the title for the other one being so terrible.
November 22nd, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^
I mean, that's usually what happens. Two threads, similar topics, but the race to the clever title is why we have headlines like "Red Tape Holds Up New Bridge" or "Man Gets Nine Months In Violin Case"
November 22nd, 2019 at 12:56 PM ^
I think Harbaugh may have been leaning on the playcalling early on (though I could be wrong) and there has certainly been elements of the Harbaugh/Warinner stuff added. But this is Gattis stuff we're seeing now. Michigan passed significantly more than it threw, even after some early playcalls weren't executed well. That is not the Harbaugh way.
Has there been staff influence? Well, let's not kid ourselves--as much as we want Harbaugh to be more hands-off, most coaching staffs see OCs get input from other guys, including the head coach. More eyes and more brains equals more opportunities to find weaknesses in defenses and find stuff that works.
As critical as I was of what I believe to be Harbaugh's influence early, and as disappointing as the Gattis gameplans were early, the MSU gameplan was outstanding and it had Gattis's fingerprints all over it.
November 22nd, 2019 at 1:30 PM ^
Pure Gattis power spread, but collaborative in the meeting room so game plans are definitely heavily influenced by Harbaugh and especially Coach Ed
November 22nd, 2019 at 1:38 PM ^
Hybrid.
Gattis needed Harbaugh’s guidance when we hit our deep rut. Ever since we’ve seen Gattis’ concepts work because we have established some toughness that comes from a Harbaugh offensive mentality. It’s a mix.
November 23rd, 2019 at 1:09 AM ^
Explain toughness. Just a quick 10 word example of how it would look as a coach. If you had 5 minutes to coach our team and toughness was the number one priority how would you do it? Obviously easily recognized what does that look like? Ill hang myself and listen.
-Not Epstein
November 22nd, 2019 at 1:46 PM ^
It is HILARIOUS that when the team offense was poopoo, it was all FIRE GATTIS HIS WIFE IS A WHORE AND HE SUCKS KILL HIS CHILDREN!!! I HATE HUM! FUCK HONG KONG KILL THEM TOO! LET THE WHITE RHiNOCEROUS GO EXTINCT I HATE GATTIS!!!
NOW it is all HARBAUGH HAS HIS LARGE MAN HANDS ALL OVER THE OFFENSE! HE HAS HIS SHIRT OFF AGAIN!!
November 22nd, 2019 at 2:05 PM ^
We never said to let the white rhinoceros go extinct.
November 23rd, 2019 at 1:06 AM ^
Whoa whoa whoa... I never said FUCK HONG KONG. Not out loud.
November 22nd, 2019 at 1:48 PM ^
Has there ever been a fan base in CFB history more obsessed with labeling their program’s offense than Michigan’s circa 2019?!
For the love of Yost, who fucking cares as long as it works?! Harbaugh is the HC, he’s going to have input and influence on all three phases of the program.
Get
Fucking
Over it already!
November 22nd, 2019 at 3:12 PM ^
Well Harbaugh wouldn’t have thrown the ball all over the field like we did against MSU.
This is a positive development. Loved the fact that we exploited MSU’s weaknesses instead of stubbornly running into their strengths. We do some of what we did last year. The nice thing is Harbaugh realized a change was needed and while it took longer to click than anybody hoped they seemed to have stayed the course and improved throughout the year.
November 22nd, 2019 at 3:40 PM ^
... they seemed to have stayed the course and improved throughout the year.
Hmmm ... so, shit canning EVERYONE and sulking wasn’t the best course of action? Who’da thunk it?!
November 22nd, 2019 at 6:46 PM ^
Well certainly not me. But that’s why I don’t coach and am enjoying all this crow from the ND and MSU games.
Rarely has being so wrong felt so good.
November 22nd, 2019 at 4:52 PM ^
Hopefully it’s a mix of designer genes! Frankenstein would be the equivalent of 1911 football.
November 22nd, 2019 at 5:07 PM ^
The biggest impact, by far over the past 3.5 games is the Quarterback is playing better and with more confidence.
That is it.
November 22nd, 2019 at 10:43 PM ^
Yes. Cause he recovered from his injury. End of story.
November 23rd, 2019 at 12:56 AM ^
I hope he's recovered enough to start finding Nico and DPJ a lot more.
November 22nd, 2019 at 8:13 PM ^
Last week was all Gattis, the ND game was all Harbaugh. I think a super Frankenstein blend may be so potent that no defense can stop it! Hopefully it will all come together against IU on Saturday and then continue against OSU.
November 22nd, 2019 at 10:41 PM ^
Yes. Yes it is.
November 23rd, 2019 at 12:54 AM ^
It was Michigan blowing away a team having a down year.
November 23rd, 2019 at 1:04 AM ^
September Defensive Tackle Mason would say its all Gattis.
November Fullback 20 carry Mason would say, well his position was eliminated up until recently.
You make the call