Don Brown and Ryan Day coached together for 2 years at BC
I haven't seen this discussed at all, but Brown and Day coordinated the defense and offense respectively at Boston College together from 2013-1014.
That's going to be an interesting subplot going forward with these two teams, as I'm sure they each know each other's tendencies and preferences pretty well. Certainly seems like Round 1 went to Day. Hopefully Brown can punch back next year.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^
....and?
December 4th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^
Ok Cool. Hook Em.
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December 4th, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^
It did not help us in Columbus. Why would it now?
December 4th, 2018 at 1:12 PM ^
OP does not say this; in fact, he suggests that it hurt us. To me it was news. Curious why this comment draws such approval.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
There are always things on this board that leave you scratching your head.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^
Sometimes this blog is weird. There was a comment on Saturday morning about how not wanting back into into the playoff to get killed by Alabama, and it for some reason got upvoted a ton. I mean, obviously we don't want to get killed by Alabama but people were basically saying they'd rather go to the Peach Bowl than the CFP.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:50 PM ^
Yeah, I started the OP, and remember this as well. Mob mentality. A bunch of like minded Psycho's roam the board constantly and they started that weird logic.
December 4th, 2018 at 7:37 PM ^
You can't see both the upvote AND the downvote totals
You can only see the aggregate.
500 people could have upvoted it and you wouldn't know.
I want to strangle brian for making the site do this, and/or still not correcting it.
December 4th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^
I’d rather go to the Rose Bowl.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:51 PM ^
I downvoted him for you.
December 4th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^
I would upvote you twice if I could: once for a good point, another for proper use of a semi-colon.
December 4th, 2018 at 6:25 PM ^
I think a lot of commenting and voting is still reflexive expressions of pain from The Game.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
I think Dwayne Haskins had more to do with the beat ddown than Ryan Day. If Haskins leaves then I like our chances next year.
December 4th, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^
If Braxton Miller leaves...if JT Barrett leaves...now that Joe Burrows is gone...if Dwayne Haskins leaves...surely Tate Martell can't be as good as...
At some point you have to beat the other team regardless of who is on the field for it to be a true rivalry.
December 4th, 2018 at 4:40 PM ^
To be fair, I don't think anyone ever feared Braxton Miller or Joe Burrows...
JT Barrett never was THE reason OSU beat UM...
Martell? lol
Dwayne Haskins was DEFINITELY the best of that group. And will more than likely be the best QB the Buckeyes have seen come through that program in awhile...
December 4th, 2018 at 6:00 PM ^
Dont forget Troy Smith and Terrell Pryor too!
I certainly haven’t.
December 4th, 2018 at 2:04 PM ^
Lack of pressure and Brandon Watson were 80-90% of the reason we lost to OSU. No team that doesn't get to Haskins can stop OSU's offense. Not us, not Bama, not Clemson, not the Houston Texans. If Haskins has all day to throw and at least one DB he knows his guy has a massive athleticism advantage over, it's a wrap.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:28 PM ^
Rounds 1&2 go to Day. He was at OSU last season too.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Tough to judge anything in a game where John O'Korn is slinging it. But certainly seems like Haskins has Brown's number for whatever reason.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:33 PM ^
It’s not tough at all.
OSU won, so they won round 1. Staff had 3 years to coach up O’Korn into even just an average QB. They failed.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
Yeah, Don Brown was coaching up John O'Korn. That's not really on him. But having O'Korn out there can affect a game that the defense is playing in.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:39 PM ^
His defense gave up 31 and 55 points to Ohio State. None of that has anything to do with who was playing QB for Michigan.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
Sometimes bad quarterbacks put good/great defenses in bad positions...
December 4th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
And that's not the case here. Because sometimes your defense just isn't good. I don't recall the offense putting Ohio State in too many bad positions the last two years.
In 2017, Ohio State had scoring drives of:
11 plays/75 yards
3/53 yds
11/78 yds
10/47 yds (FG)
3/66 yds
In 2018 it was:
6/57 yds
9/80 yds
8/79 yds
9/56 yds (FG)
2/22 yds**
1/78 yds
6/75 yds
3/19 yds**
Two whole drives in two seasons that you can blame on the offense putting them in a bad position. Maybe 3 if you want to throw in that FG in 2017. The rest of it is just an ass-whooping wholly independent from offensive struggles.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
I think this is the wrong argument.
This is really about Barrett vs. Haskins.
Brown had Barrett figured out.
In 2016, Ohio State scored 10 points in regulation at home. You might say "They missed two field goals!", which okay. But their one TD came when they had to drive 6 yards. Really, Ohio State's offense played well enough to score 9 points on their own in regulation. They didn't even cross 200 yards till the last drive in regulation (that featured a terrible call by the officials on a third down given that they would let the same call go when it would have helped Michigan in overtime). That is a beat down and its a travesty that Michigan lost that game because of offensive mistakes and the officiating.
In 2017, Ohio State had 14 points through 2.5 quarters with Barrett in the game. Seven of those points came on a drive that was aided by phantom penalties (perplexing even the announcers) and a shocking dropped INT by Josh Metellus.
What's honestly frustrating - especially given what happened this year - is that Ohio State was probably HELPED in 2017 by losing their starting QB. Ever since Haskins entered that game, Michigan has been unable to stop Ohio State.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
Some quarterbacks are incapable of being average.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^
Day was actually co-offensive coordinator in 2017.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:29 PM ^
Certainly seems? Our defense got destroyed by everything Day threw at us.
Home game, no Haskins and a new coach.....we HAVE to win in 2019.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
Oh my god.... tell us what happens if we don't.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
The status quo, since we haven’t been competitive in the series this Millenia.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^
Not true. I was at the home games in early 2000s and we did quite well as I recall.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:14 PM ^
Um....we won one game against them in the early 2000's at home. 2003.
Lost in 2001
Lost in 2005
Lost in 2007
Lost in 2009
December 4th, 2018 at 1:46 PM ^
WTF are you talking about?? I'm starting to think you're a troll. They won in 2003 and 2011. They were also "competitive" in 2016, 2013, 2006, 2005 and 2001 losing by a combined 20 points.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Why don't you ask Alanis Morissette?
December 4th, 2018 at 2:25 PM ^
Easy: Harbaugh's seat starts to get hot, perhaps quite hot depending on how the rest of the season goes. You can say that's not possible, but he would be 0-5 at that point. Michigan fans won't tolerate losing to OSU forever.
December 4th, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^
Yes, and I'm sure the AD will ask us our opinions.... we fans have very little to say about it.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:44 PM ^
I was having a conversation with a friend about this. If we don't win in 2019 with the amount of upper classmen we will have (assuming Shea returns, which I expect him to), the fact that it's a home game, OSU will have a new coach and possibly new QB, then I simply cannot believe Harbaugh and his team/staff can get it done versus OSU. In fact, I might believe that we will never beat OSU again at that rate.
December 4th, 2018 at 1:33 PM ^
This is a scorching hot take.
December 4th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^
Please tell me what earth shattering offensive strategy Day threw at us this year? Crossing routes and very accurate deep bombs to very fast receivers in 1 on 1 coverage with a QB having 10s to find an open player. That's quite a groundbreaking offensive play call.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:30 PM ^
Not sure if you'd consider it 'discussed', but it was mentioned in 1 of the Urby threads.
December 4th, 2018 at 12:45 PM ^
So, we have had Urb, Urbz, and Urbs. Now there is Urby.
wow
December 4th, 2018 at 12:49 PM ^
Eat at Urby's
December 4th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
Urby's. We. Have. The. Beats.
December 4th, 2018 at 3:16 PM ^
Is that a new Pizza joint? We all know he only eats pizza...
December 4th, 2018 at 12:53 PM ^
My personal favorite is Cretinous Human Being Meyers
December 4th, 2018 at 12:31 PM ^
What was their record in the 1014 season?
December 4th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Didn’t matter. The byzantines were unstoppable
December 4th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
I know they scored on your mom repeatedly
December 4th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
Fascinating, fascinating. I wonder what all of this.....means????
December 4th, 2018 at 12:46 PM ^
I don't know if you wonder that. You tell us if you do.