October 27th, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^
Sorry Ms. Dantonio. Oh. I am for real. I didn't mean to make your son Mark cry.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:55 PM ^
You shed a tear in the Dantonio household, better get ready for a week of eating liver and lima beans til you toughen up.
When you're busy recruiting nationally, no time for that sissy business.
Now you might think im about to cry here:
or here:
but i assure you
i was not shedding a tear. And our players don't cry either when they get their hands punched by a lineman's face or their wrist twisted by a guy's facemask. That's spartan football and if you don't like it, turn off your TV set. We don't need your communist ass watching us play. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go reset our countdown clock. Win versus that other school in the state next year and thats 10 straight years we won or lost by less than 3 plays. Watch your boy Rich's football banquet and tell me who's crying.
October 28th, 2011 at 2:32 AM ^
Got it. Finishing/adapting Outkast lyrics (Mrs. Jackson) is flamebait?
October 28th, 2011 at 9:12 AM ^
You should apologize, like a trillion times.
October 27th, 2011 at 7:43 PM ^
Were Backus Jansen and Hutchinson all from the same class?
October 27th, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^
by overall skill: absolutely not. I have to believe that in the grand history of michigan football we've had just ridiculous classes at some points.
October 27th, 2011 at 7:47 PM ^
The most highly-celebrated Michigan recruiting class I remember was the 1998 class, which had the following players:
- Drew Henson, QB
- David Terrell & Marquise Walker, WRs
- Walter Cross & Justin Fargas, RBs
- Bennie Joppru & Deitan Dubuc, TEs
- Julius Curry & Cato June, Safeties
- Todd Howard, CB
- Victor Hobson, Evan Coleman & Larry Foote, LBs
- Joe Denay & Dave Petruziello, OL
- Dan Rumishek & Shawn Lazarus, DL
- Dave Armstrong, FB
That's a pretty solid class, but it's only 18 players. Out of those 18, I would say that Henson, Terrell, Waker, Cross, Fargas,* Joppru, Dubuc, Curry, June, Howard, Hobson, Foote, Petruziello, Rumishek, and Lazarus were all significant on-field contributors, so that is 15 out of 18 (83%). Several of those players were legitimate stars.
The 2011 class looks like it will have 25 or more players in it, so it will be quite disappointing if at least 15 of those players do not make significant contributions, or if a few of them don't become star players. If 83% of the 2011 class turn out to be significant contributors, then you are talking about 21+ players. I imagine it has been a very long time since UM has signed a recruiting class in which 21+ players became major on-field contributors.
October 27th, 2011 at 11:10 PM ^
What about foote?
October 28th, 2011 at 9:07 AM ^
That was a pretty amazing class. By today's ratings, Henson, Fargas, Terrell, and Walker would be considered locks as 5* guys. That was basically a modern day USC class.
October 28th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^
The #1 QB, #1 RB, and #1 AND 2 receivers that year.
We have to get back to those days.
(BTW, love your list of the Woodson class..not ranked as high, but hard to match for impact).
October 27th, 2011 at 7:52 PM ^
Let's at least wait until the LOI are signed
October 27th, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^
This is no time to be rational, Mr. Rainonourparadepants.
October 27th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^
Not to be rude, but judging by his avatar his name ought to be Mr. Snowonourparadepants.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:30 PM ^
It's "It'slikeI'mwearingnothingatallonourparadepants."
October 27th, 2011 at 7:56 PM ^
Nope. If we got payton, wright, thompson, garnett and 1 other 4/5 star then it would be pretty close, but still probably not the best. As good as this class is it doesn't have an elite "skill" player. I think it would have needed Shane Morris in this years class along with another arguable #1 receiver/wr. With that said, his class does cover our needs very well.
October 27th, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^
Hell no. 1995, as stated below by many, was the foundation of the epic 1997 season. '95 is the greatest class ever. EVER.
October 27th, 2011 at 8:20 PM ^
Well for one thing, the moon has one third less gravity than your earth, I don't know if you can understand that, but our vertical leap is beyond all measurement
October 27th, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^
There will be an argument only when this class provides 2 heisman trohoy winners and 3 NFL hall of famers.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:07 PM ^
is that not reasonable?
October 27th, 2011 at 9:10 PM ^
We won't know for a long time whether this is the best class. It has to translate to lots of victories on the field, hopefully a national championship.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:18 PM ^
This would be our best, but too bad friggen Michigan State is recruiting nationally and will put our class to shame!!
/s
October 27th, 2011 at 9:20 PM ^
You didn't lay out the criteria. Is it "best results during and after college" or "best job getting a highly touted class"? I'd argue that the first is obviously more valuable, but they might take the same amount of skill to close.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:20 PM ^
Hi Folks,
I don't have enough points to start my own thread. A blind couple at my church heard I like College Football and asked me if I could download the Michigan Fight Song for them. I don't have it, but would like to fulfill their request. Finding an mp3 copy has been harder than I thought. Would anyone mind helping me out? Reward involves good karma points from a Spartan.
THanks,
Jim
October 27th, 2011 at 9:35 PM ^
For $.99 you can search "The Victors (Trio)" on iTunes. It's about thirty seconds long, and that's what gets played during games. The other thing you can do is search for a YouTube to mp3 converter and just find a video that has good sound quality.
October 27th, 2011 at 10:31 PM ^
If you dont have iTunes, you can go on Amazon MP3 to download it, but I would go with youtube to mp3
October 27th, 2011 at 9:32 PM ^
I have a feeling we will be discussing a thread like this several times in the Brady Hoke era.
October 27th, 2011 at 10:00 PM ^
I sure as hell hope so.
October 27th, 2011 at 10:06 PM ^
Big Ten Championship or bust!
October 27th, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^
Desmond and Elvis to Michigan was pretty damn good.
October 27th, 2011 at 10:51 PM ^
October 27th, 2011 at 11:43 PM ^
Q: Is this the dumbest post ever?
A: Yes
October 27th, 2011 at 11:46 PM ^
I'll give you an answer in about 4 years.
October 28th, 2011 at 4:40 AM ^
Theres two ways to judge it. 1. Based upon rankings and 2. After the fact evaulation. This class isnt even close in category one and obviously we have to wait several years to get an idea of the second criteria. This is a good class but I dont think comes close to most of the 90's classes, not to mention the old days when we could just take tons of players before the scholarship limits. I see this class finishing about 5-8 once the top level 5 stars shake out unless we just get tons of steals.
October 28th, 2011 at 7:54 AM ^
In 2002 we had the #1 ranked recruiting class according to ESPN with Woodley, Prescott Burgess, Shawn Crable, Leon Hall, Jake Long, and Clayton Richard..
Didn't turn out to be the best group of talent we've ever had, but it was the #1 ranked class.
A nice reminder to temper our expectations.
EDIT: Also a nice reminder that ESPN rankings are rediculous. Rivals had us at #17 for that class.
October 28th, 2011 at 9:27 AM ^
October 28th, 2011 at 9:35 AM ^
Wait until we have Denard's twin sons in 2040, with their sub 3.0 40-yard dashes and rocket (literally - we have surgery for that by 2040) arms. THAT will be a recruiting class up there with the team of NBA "stars" used in Space Jam.
October 28th, 2011 at 11:48 AM ^
You'll LOVE "Robinson to Robinson".
October 28th, 2011 at 10:07 AM ^
I've been following football recruiting since about 1986. I was a long-time subscriber to SuperPrep and Tom Lemming's newsletters.
Michigan's had the #1 class several times. Top five classes like this one? Lots and lots and lots of times.
October 28th, 2011 at 10:10 AM ^
Echoing the fact hat we won't know how good this class is until a handful of years form now but we need to add a stud RB and WR to round out this class on the offensive side of the ball. It certainly has all the potential...
October 28th, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^
The most important thing with this first real class for Hoke is filling it up with linemen on both sides of the ball. It's not as sexy as bringing in a bunch of skill guys but it paves the way for future dominance. Then the Shane Morris class the following year might be the one that gets you a bunch of hyped up skill players. Hoke is definitely going about things the right way, the key right now is finishing strong on the field. Win 9+ games and the recruiting momentum should only add to our already impressive recruiting class.
October 28th, 2011 at 2:59 PM ^
Obviously, we have to wait 5 years and see how all of these guys pan out, but from a pure Rivals/Scout numerical ranking I think the 1998 class would be the only one that could compare to 2012.