Report on McNair's death and Maryland culture will be out soon
Some players defend the Durkin regime and maybe certain narratives need additional context but there some events here that have crossed a line. Throwing a player who vomited from a workout into a refigerator and then making him clean up the mess? I wonder if any of this would be coming to light if it weren't for the preventable death of a player.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/motivation-or-abuse-maryland-confronts-footballs-fine-line-as-new-allegations-emerge/2018/09/30/e7ab028e-c3dd-11e8-b338-a3289f6cb742_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5383873ea999
October 1st, 2018 at 1:00 PM ^
This wouldn’t have been a story in the old days
October 1st, 2018 at 1:07 PM ^
By "old days" do you mean before there was, like, paper?
This would have always been a story.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:15 PM ^
No you’re wrong
October 1st, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
Well, no.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:28 PM ^
Be honest, you spend inordinate amounts of time watching old Bob Probert videos don't you?
October 1st, 2018 at 1:28 PM ^
It's been commonly written about that Bo made the players run laps and set out buckets for people to vomit into. Yet, the overall culture has never alleged to have been abusive. Where the culture of an institution intersected with tragedy is a player losing consciousness and showing heatstroke symptoms. "Drag his ass across the field" is a response borne of an abusive culture that disregards the safety of its people. Putting ice bags on Jordan until help arrived might have saved his life.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:41 PM ^
Probert was a force... I remember one time he couldn’t go to a game in Canada because he was gonna get arrested. GOAT enforcer.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:22 PM ^
Yes, because he was accused of smuggling cocaine in his underwear. I'm not sure he's really the guy you want to hold up as a shining example of humanity.
October 1st, 2018 at 4:18 PM ^
It was to deal with the pain from his duties as enforcer my man
October 1st, 2018 at 1:20 PM ^
It was referred to by its proper name back then, papyrus
October 1st, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^
Makes me glad that we don't live in the "old days" anymore. This kind of behavior is abusive and should have no place in college athletics.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
And women were kept in their place.
And slavery wasn’t frowned upon.
And only property owning white men could vote.
And it was ok to beat yer kids.
Ahh, the good ole days.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^
1975?
October 1st, 2018 at 2:49 PM ^
Alabama 2018 just called, they want to know why you have forgotten about it.
October 1st, 2018 at 2:53 PM ^
yeah, let's go back to the good ole days when people died senselessly and we didn't even pretend to care or try to prevent it from happening again.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:29 PM ^
Even in the old days when men were men and blah blah blah, it was never OK for a player to die on the field. Player death has always been beyond the pale.
It was during the Teddy Roosevelt administration that college football underwent major rule changes to make the game safer.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:41 PM ^
Your takes are near universally bad.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:10 PM ^
"During meal and in training rooms, players were shown videos featuring loud music, violent imagery, and animals killing each other." "Video segments of zombies pulling the intestines out of other people."
The fu.....?
October 1st, 2018 at 1:20 PM ^
October 1st, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
It's better than Josh Groban sing alongs
October 1st, 2018 at 1:29 PM ^
I'm sure we could find a middle-ground.
October 1st, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^
"...and animals killing each other."
There's a certain kind of personality that enjoys dog-fighting. Seems like DJ Durkin has it.
October 1st, 2018 at 2:29 PM ^
You telling me you don't enjoy Shark Week?
October 1st, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^
"You telling me you don't enjoy Shark Week?"
Never watched it.
And while I've seen plenty of other nature specials over the years, I don't derive particular enjoyment out of the instances where one animal is killing/eating another. It's just nature.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:58 PM ^
I know a former head coach of Florida that does!
/oh crap, I wasn't supposed to go there was I???
October 1st, 2018 at 5:31 PM ^
Live every week like it's shark week.
October 1st, 2018 at 2:18 PM ^
I am just so thankful DJ isn't here any more.
October 1st, 2018 at 2:36 PM ^
I kind of got a "scumbag vibe" from him in the short time that he was here.
October 1st, 2018 at 2:50 PM ^
Seriously, fuck that guy. The events that took place under his watch were disgusting as is anyone who defends them.
October 1st, 2018 at 3:31 PM ^
Someone during the game thread was saying they missed him as our DC. Even by the ultra-low standards of in-game posting, how the hell do you pine for a guy with blood on his hands?
October 1st, 2018 at 5:32 PM ^
Michigan has the #1 defense in ypg allowed. Fuck Durkin, Don Brown for president.
October 1st, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
I would like to vomit right on DJ Durkin’s face.
October 1st, 2018 at 9:42 PM ^
That would be ok as long as you clean up after yourself.
October 2nd, 2018 at 7:23 AM ^
He might have to adjust his smile to accommodate
October 1st, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
Boosters that enjoy their access to the program are defending Durkin. One even went so far as to blame McNair for his own demise.
October 1st, 2018 at 5:56 PM ^
From Mr Miggle's linked story:
Another player interviewed said McNair didn't look ready for the training session, and according to Walters' report, McNair gained 16 pounds between April 9 and his final workout May 29. McNair also told trainers he hadn't eaten since having a bowl of cereal the morning of the conditioning test, and his gallon of water provided by the team was later found unopened in his locker.
Walters said McNair's heatstroke was "atypical" but pointed to several significant mistakes made by trainers, such as failing to take his vital signs and waiting for more than an hour before calling 911 after he first was symptomatic.
"As much as we hate to say this, Jordan didn't do what Jordan was supposed to do," Jaklitsch said. "A trainer like Wes Robinson thinks a kid's properly hydrated and runs a drill set up for kids that are properly hydrated, and when the kid didn't drink the gallon he knew he had to drink, that's going to send the wrong signal to the person running the drill."
With all the abuse trainer's were giving players for being overweight, it's reasonable to assume McNair ate and drank very little to shave a few pounds for his weigh-in to avoid the bullying. It's too bad the boosters don't seem to understand this, but I'll bet whatever judge or jury sets a dollar amount in the civil suit won't just blame McNair for his heat stroke.
October 2nd, 2018 at 6:48 AM ^
They're nuts. From a PR standpoint, Durkin is radioactive now. The guy's had a player die under his watch, other parents publicly complain about the culture of his program and his own school investigate him for misconduct. His greatest strength is supposed to be in recruiting, but you can bet that just got a lot harder. They can find another up-and-comer without all that baggage.
October 1st, 2018 at 8:17 PM ^
"During meals and in the training room, players were shown graphic videos featuring loud music, violent imagery and animals killing each other. The videos were intended to motivate the players. “There would be videos of animals eating other animals, pulling them apart,” one player said. “Video segments of, like, zombies just pulling out the intestines of other people.”
I concur with the other person who posted about this, which is way beyond the pale. This is disturbing.