OT: Recreational marijuana sales begin on 12/1 in Ann Arbor

Submitted by Wolverine Devotee on November 27th, 2019 at 10:11 PM

Sunday is the first date LEGAL recreational marijuana sales begin in the state of Michigan since the laws changed last year. Only 3 stores have their licenses and all 3 are in A2 

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Detroit recently voted against recreational sales so Ann Arbor, Ypsi and Ferndale are going to become hubs for sales. 

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2019/11/3-recreational-marijuana-shops-now-licensed-to-open-in-michigan-on-dec-1.html

Darker Blue

November 27th, 2019 at 10:15 PM ^

Cool 

I'm probably going to keep buying weed from the same place I've bought weed for the last 10 years.

But it is cool that I'll be able to go into a store and buy a bag

 

befuggled

November 28th, 2019 at 9:43 AM ^

This is why this sort of thing is problematic for legal marijuana. In order to get the full benefits out of the damn stuff (like taxing it and sending the profits to legitimate businesses instead of cartels), you need to make the legal marijuana market better than black market marijuana.

For instance, Ontario has legalized recreational marijuana yet the black market still flourishes for a variety of reasons. There's a place near me called CAFE ("Cannabis and Fine Edibles") that's still selling despite being illegal. The cops literally put concrete blocks in front of the building so no one can get in but CAFE still sells openly except on days when they've been raided. I don't think anyone takes it all that seriously, including the cops and CAFE. 

Part of that is getting the place where you've been buying weed for the last ten years into the legal market. Three permits in the entire state and only in Ann Arbor is frankly ridiculous, and I don't know what the hell Detroit was thinking when they voted against it.

 

MaizeBlueA2

November 28th, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^

Any recommendations? I've never smoked anything (weed, cigarettes, etc.)...for a myriad of reasons.

Now that I can basically walk into a store and I don't have to figure out how to get it, I think I'm going to give it a try.

I "suffer" from damn near every symptom marijuana is supposed to help with. But when you don't try it in high school or college, you kind of learn to live with life and everything that comes with it. Plus you just don't have the time to figure out something new.

I've recently tried CBD tinctures (because I can go to Lazarus Naturals or whatever highly rated site and order them online from my phone without any real thought into it) and that helps with the sleep piece and it is a heck of a lot more healthy than having a drink just to take the edge off of a tough day. Really interested in giving this a shot. 

kurpit

November 28th, 2019 at 10:50 AM ^

I wouldn't be the right person to make suggestions as I am somebody who is just an occasional recreational smoker. If you have physical ailments that you feel that it could help with then you should probably ask a doctor about options.

Drinking to go to sleep is definitely a really bad route though so it's good that you've found a viable alternative for that already.

mackbru

November 28th, 2019 at 10:51 AM ^

5 mg is the standard starter dose. 10 is too high for beginners. Wait 90 minutes. Adapt accordingly. Start with edibles because those are doses more precisely. 
 

Weed in California is only moderately more expensive than in other states. It’s still pretty reasonable there. 20 gummies for $17 is a lot of doses. Way cheaper than booze. 
 

 

 

drjaws

November 27th, 2019 at 10:18 PM ^

Sweet.  Also, first MGoAd that showed up when I opened this link was for “sustainable hemp” and showed a bunch of pot plants were discernibly NOT hemp

FauxMo

November 27th, 2019 at 10:26 PM ^

Well shit. Does this mean I no longer need to go to a sketchy house in a sketchy neighborhood and have several unpleasant conversations with people I’d never normally converse with before smoking a plant??? That SUCKS!!!

spider-sal

November 27th, 2019 at 10:33 PM ^

Question for someone more knowledgeable than I - If weed becomes legal on the federal level, will the employers no longer be able to ban its use?

It really bums me out that I can’t get high without fear of getting a random test.

I'mTheStig

November 27th, 2019 at 10:48 PM ^

This is weird. 

I know of employers who test for alcohol in piss quizzes.  Booze is legal.  

I don't think employment drug screenings are regulated by any law (other than obvious things like pilots, emergency services, etc)... it's up to the employer to determine what they are willing to tolerate.

JDeanAuthor

November 28th, 2019 at 8:38 AM ^

You have the right to use it. You also have the responsibility to know when not to use it. 
 

When I worked at GM, I personally know of a worker who nearly killed somebody else because he was driving a forktruck while high, so I really don’t have sympathy for fools who don’t want to accept consequences for stupid actions.

xtramelanin

November 27th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^

using dope might not be the best thing you do with your time and body.....

But studies showing that marijuana use is a significant risk factor for violence have quietly piled up. Many of them weren’t even designed to catch the link, but they did. Dozens of such studies exist, covering everything from bullying by high school students to fighting among vacationers in Spain.

In most cases, studies find that the risk is at least as significant as with alcohol. A 2012 paper in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence examined a federal survey of more than 9,000 adolescents and found that marijuana use was associated with a doubling of domestic violence; a 2017 paper in Social Psychiatry and Psychiatric Epidemiology examined drivers of violence among 6,000 British and Chinese men and found that drug use—the drug nearly always being cannabis—translated into a five-fold increase in violence

The first four states to legalize marijuana for recreational use were Colorado and Washington in 2014 and Alaska and Oregon in 2015. Combined, those four states had about 450 murders and 30,300 aggravated assaults in 2013. Last year, they had almost 620 murders and 38,000 aggravated assaults—an increase of 37 percent for murders and 25 percent for aggravated assaults, far greater than the national increase, even after accounting for differences in population growth.

Most cigarette smokers don’t die of lung cancer. But we have made it widely known that cigarettes cause cancer, full stop. Most people who drink and drive don’t have fatal accidents. But we have highlighted the cases of those who do.

We need equally unambiguous and well-funded advertising campaigns on the risks of cannabis. Instead, we are now in the worst of all worlds. Marijuana is legal in some states, illegal in others, dangerously potent, and sold without warnings everywhere.

 

i know the marijuana nazi's will neg me for this, so be it.  just realize that there are real costs to weed use, and in particular young users and long-time users are causing significant changes and degradations in their brain function.  i don't think we should be putting people in prison over it, either, but open your eyes to the downside. 

 

xtramelanin

November 27th, 2019 at 10:49 PM ^

bando, i believe our very own doc mantis coined the phrase 'pot nazi's' because of how intensely they defend all things dope related. and yeah, its dope, especially now where the THC content is through the roof. 

incidentally, getting past your ad hominen attacks, do you have any substantive comments on the detrimental effects of pot? 

Tunneler

November 28th, 2019 at 4:33 AM ^

How is it that even tho xtra started off by saying that people who smoke weed get on the violent side, I started off with him? 

Now I'm siding with Bando a little.

You guys have interesting banter hehe.  Sometimes I wonder if it's just WD furiously typing in all of this dialogue. 

If it's not, you guys should just shake on it & get back to each other.

xtramelanin

November 28th, 2019 at 7:46 PM ^

i didn't write what you are complaining about.  you need to read my posts more closely.  all i'm saying, in essence, is that weed can have a significant downside and folks should contemplate that a little before they are so full-throatedly smoking it or touting it for others.  the pot nazi's get real prickly when you point that out, as can be seen by this thread.