OT: Mumps outbreak at the Ohio State University of Viruses
How does that saying go, "Karma is a ........."
Bad jokes aside, this is horrible news for the university. I hope they can contain it because these things can spread very quickly.
But, it could be a useful recruiting tool for Michigan to point out that OSU is a petri dish of harmful viruses.
And if Aaron Craft was smart, he'll start using the fact he had the mumps as to why he choked.
http://news.yahoo.com/mumps-outbreak-ohio-state-grows-23-cases-21563907…-
March 18th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^
While I agree the controversies between the two are very different, there is no evidence to suggest that the HPV "controversy" is any more or less credible than the other. There is however mountains of research/testing/trials that prove Gardasil is something every parent should get their child vaccinated with. If you are interested, here are examples of some of that:
Klein NP, Hansen J, Chao C et al. Safety of quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine administered routinely to females. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med 2012;166:1140-1148.
Chao C, Klein NP, Velicer CM et al. Surveillance of autoimmune conditions following routine use of quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine. J Intern Med 2012;271:193-203.
Gee J, Naleway A, Shui I, Baggs J, Yinc R, Lic R, Kulldorff, M, Lewis E, Fireman B, Daley, MF, Klein NP, Weintraub ES. Monitoring the safety of quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine: Findings from the Vaccine Safety Datalink, Vaccine 2011 Oct 26;Vol 29, Issue 46: 8279-8284.
Slade BA, Leidel L, Vellozzi C, Woo EJ, Hua J, Sutherland A, Izurieta HS, Ball R, Miller N, Braun MM, Markowitz LE, Iskander J. Postlicensure safety surveillance for quadrivalent human papillomavirus recombinant vaccine. JAMA 2009 Aug 10;302(7):750-7.
Thank you for real references (blog posts and news articles do not count)! Here's a comprehensive review/book of vaccines and adverse health effects from the National Academy of Sciences (Re: Autism p.145-153):
March 18th, 2014 at 11:21 AM ^
You know what is really funny (really, sad) about McCarthy?
Even though she is on this crusade to stop kids from getting vaccinated, she herself has two MASSIVE bags on silicone in her body, for no medical reason whatsoever, and regularly injects her face with one of the deadliest toxins know to man (botox).
The utter hypocricy is just massive...
This is really a combo of things.
1) Universities have large numbers of kids(young adults, sorry I am getting old)
2) Many of these people will be from foreign countries that may or may not have any sort of vaccination programs.
3) Yes it is also true that many kids in America have not been following up on the Vaccinations as they should.
This can all lead to a situation where almost any of the students are vulnerable.
We had some neighbors who don't vaccinate and they just told the school that they don't believe in it. Nice,huh? Good thing they moved. Probably the same for college.
My husband says that there will be a lot of people who regret their decision when Polio returns.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:18 AM ^
I'm not sure about whether or not you can opt out of immunizations from some schools, but immunization results are one of the few healthcare items that are not protected by HIPAA law. In addition, there is a nation-wide project that has begun to send immunization results from nearly every health care hospital or provider to state registries. So documentation on this issue shouldn't be a problem. I know certain industries can mandate immunizations. I had to get my hep shots, not that I would have chose not to do so. So I think that rationality can win out here.
Even playing devil's advocate here, if immunizations DID in fact cause autism, I believe that as a whole, that would be the lesser of two evils...
March 18th, 2014 at 10:20 AM ^
or ohio, if you wish.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:03 AM ^
All the more reason to call them Ohio State.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:13 AM ^
Of all the "pet names" they have for Michigan, if this is the worst thing I refer to them as, I'm fine with it.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^
I don't object because it's "bad" or insulting, I object because it's confusing. If it were somehow insulting, then it would be easily understood. Instead, you get topic titles like this one, with no context to know whether we're discussing Ohio State, the University of Ohio, or the State of Ohio, aside from some rule for ohio vs. OHIO that apparently few know.
If Hoke wants to call them Ohio because that's how he's always thought of them, I don't really have a problem with that. I think it makes little sense, but whatever. I do, however, think its silly for part of the fanbase to adopt the naming mechanism when it makes no sense and didn't exist in the fanbase 5 years ago.
I personally have never had the mumps, but my parents have some stories from their childhood that sound....uncomfortable, to say the least. I think the vaccine was only introduced in the late 1960s, well past the time my parents were kids. In any case, hopefully everyone is on the mend soon enough down there.
I've been pretty good by Mgoblog standards at avoiding politics/religion (not sure how vaccinations somehow started to fall under this category), but as a father to a young child, this is one topic I feel strongly enough about to not care if it pisses anyone off on here:
Parents, vaccinate your damn kids! You are endangering the lives of your kids and everyone around your kids if you do not (adults and children alike). The whole autism due to vaccinations study was already proven to be a scam for financial gain. As the anti-vaccination movement continues to grow anyways, the resurgence of once pretty much dormant diseases and ailments has begun and kids are starting to die. It's not worth it.
Also, if you as an adult don't believe you were vaccinated when you were younger, better get your ass to the doctor and get it taken care of.
I don't think this is poltical in the least. This is about science vs. stupid, gullible people who listen to Jenny McCarthy instead of someone with a clue.
My wife works with kids who have cancer, and they rely on the herd immunity since they either have a delayed vaccination schedule or their immune system is compromised. This is a very serious matter.
Its actually quite common around here the day after games vs. Staee.
This is science, and MGoBlog has taken a firm stance in favor of science, you know, existing. Also, while we steer far away from the pro-life/pro-choice debate, we have stated a solid pro-life preference in terms of people not suffering and/or dying from shit they cured two generations ago.
VACCINATE. YOUR. CHILDREN.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
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March 18th, 2014 at 10:41 AM ^
that there is this intense need to discount one particular possible contributing factor and essentially mock people that think there should be additional research conducted into the issue. Autism desperately needs to make it into the mainstream consciousness of this country. Most people have no idea how common it is right now and how many families are being affected by this.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:46 AM ^
but not through immoral pseudoscience.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^
No link between autism and vaccines has been found. The anit-vax crowd then demanded more research which again showed not link. At some point all your demands for more research into the vaccine link is doing is drawing research dollars away from areas that have not been researched and may offer insight into the actual causes.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^
in the "anti-vax" crowd. I am in the "parents with an autistic child" crowd. My son was vaccinated and has autism. I don't know why, and I don't know whether it could have had something to do with vaccinations. I doubt it, but he displayed no signs of the disorder, and I mean NO signs of it, until about his third birthday. I do not plan on having another child, if I do, I have not made up my mind about vaccinations. I probably will, but not without some trepidation. Most of the people spewing this hate, and yes, it looks a lot like hate, have less than a clue what they are talking about.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:22 AM ^
it is incredibly unfair.
but i don't understand why you can't understand the hatred people have for stupidity directly causing other people's children to die.
choosing to not vaccinate your child, and then having your child acquire an illness, have that spread to another child, and killing both children is on the same level as killing your family and another family because you were drinking and driving. it's unforgiveably stupid. that deserves ample ample hatred.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
I'm sure it's an intense and personal issue for you, and I'm glad you're comfortable enough to come on this board and talk about it.
The thing that I and many others are concerned about is that vaccines are essentially being propped up as a scapegoat for parents of autistic children looking for someone/something to blame. A significant amount of research has been done on this issue, and without exception, every last bit of it has failed to find any link between vaccines and autism. The only thing keeping this concern alive is public panic, which is even more infectious than the diseases these vaccines prevent.
There's certainly still a lot we don't know about autism, and there's a lot of work to be done to bring autism and spectrum disorders into the public eye, but prolonging the vaccine "argument" will not help accomplish either of those goals. If there is an environmental link to autism, it almost certainly isn't related to vaccines. On top of that, all the time and energy we spend continuing to debunk any vaccine-autism link is time and energy that could be spent looking for an environmental condition that does have some sort of link to autism.
Anyway, thanks again for weighing in. I know I speak for many people here in wishing you and your family the best.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
March 18th, 2014 at 11:39 AM ^
The former “Dr. Wakefield”, they pulled his license, appears to have done damage to Autism research in addition to fueling a decline in vaccination rates. I am angry with the anti-vax crowd not only because they have led to a decline in vaccination rates, which leads to the unnecessary deaths of children, but also because they have continued to feed false information to parents with Autistic children. All the research indicates that vaccines do not cause Autism. The people out there arguing otherwise are ignoring this information, and often looking to profit from continuing the lie.
We need more research into the causes and potential treatments for Autism. This research needs to be guided by the science. Continually diverting resources to study causes which have been ruled out is not going to help solve this.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:05 AM ^
There have been numerous research done on this issue.
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/science/epidemiological-study-autism-an…
It is not science's problem that people don't believe in evidence that they don't agree with.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:50 AM ^
Autism is a serious issue that deserves more attention.
Autism also has exactly as much of a documented correlation with vaccinations as it does to exposure to Barney the purple dinosaur. That is to say FUCKING NONE.
March 18th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^
I am NOT advocating exposure to Barney. There may be no documented risk of autism or any other health problem, but he's really freeking annoying.
March 18th, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^
or how old your child is, but you really need to look into a town/school where it is in the mainstream consciousness. At our school, we have a sensory room in the elementary and middle schools as well as an "autism day" which is solely dedicated to teaching all the kids about autism. Autism is very well covered and addressed here.
Speech and dyslexia help have been cut in our school for more autism funding. But I do hear other states/communities are not the same. I would move to a more autism friendly town.
that it is not addressed or in the mainstream consciousness at all, it is that people don't know HOW prevalent it is. 1 in 88 kids will develop autism. 1 in 88!! And it is not entirely expanded diagnostic criteria. There is something to this. There has to be reasons behind this drastic of an increase in this disorder. Perhaps it has to do with preservatives in food. Perhaps it has to do with Disney Jr., Nickelodean and the Nintendo DS. Maybe children are too protected and insulated and their brain is forming abnormally because it has nothing to fricking do. I see a lot of people basically equate "vaccinations don't cause autism" to "there is nothing that can be done to prevent autism." And I don't believe that to be true. I don't believe it to be entirely genetic without any correlation to environment or cultural factors, some so strong that they may actually be altering the make up and functionality of the brain. I do hate seeing people being so dismissive regarding this issue, even the vaccination element.
I realize you're a parent of a child with autism, but rates of spectrum disorders aren't rising at any noticable level. What IS increasing is our ability to properly diagnose these disorders, which will of course give the illusion of rising rates of the disorders themselves.
I see a lot of people basically equate "vaccinations don't cause autism" to "there is nothing that can be done to prevent autism."
NO ONE HERE has done that. This is pure paranoia.
I do hate seeing people being so dismissive regarding this issue, even the vaccination element.
Who's being dismissive? You're out of control. The anti-vaxxxx movement is doing absolutely nothing to alleviate autism and is in fact working AGAINST those measures. You should be more outraged at the Jenny McCarthys of the country than most. The worst possible way to approach a hot-button medical issue is to pull out and popularize junk science.
Furthermore, and this will sound extremely condescending, but it's clear you're not a scientist nor a doctor. So stop pretending to be one just because you have a child with autism.
But I might suggest that all this attention being placed towards a cause that simply just does not exist is doing nothing other than taking away from other autism research into the potential causes. And as the posetr above says...the ability to diagnose autism has improved, and that is the simple reason why the rates have increased.
Again, none of this is to say we shouldn't be researching autism. We should. Obviously. But we need to get away from investigating causes that simply do not exist, because it actually hurts autism research that is desperately needed. It's a waste of time.
Vaccines work. That is the plain truth. The other plain truth is they do not cause autism, or at least no causal link has been found yet (and it's not like they haven't been looking). But please do not take this to mean that people don't care about autism. They do. At least, they should.
into labor?
I am really sorry to hear that your son is diagnosed with Autism. Hopefully he can get the help he needs with a lot of the treatments that have come about. It is definitely something my wife and I are/were concerned about.
I do think that the people on this board would agree that there needs to be more research into the cause of the disease, however, I think they understand that autism and vaccinations have been studied a lot, and no correlation has been found. Thus, it is better to continue getting vaccinations (as you have agreed), but push the research into a new plausible argument.
and she received Oxytocin. I have my eye on those studies and the numbers are pretty persuasive. It is my understanding that most of the subject children in those studies were symptomatic from birth and not regressive as was the case with my son. I think there is enough there to at least inquire about it if induction is suggested.
I had heard the that they had found a correlation between inductions and boys with autism. I know the study has confirmed only correlation and not causation, but, like you said, hopefully they will look further into this.
Again, hopefully you can get your son into a district that understands the disease. As I understand it, there have been big break throughs in teaching methods to help children with autism, and hopefully, those become even more prominenet and mainstream.
I appreciate it.
March 18th, 2014 at 10:53 AM ^
So I should trust a bunch of random non doctors on the internet? If you are not vaccinating your kids you are an idiot. You also put other people’s kids at risk because you are too stupid to evaluate the clear evidence that vaccinations have saved millions of lives. People who don’t vaccinate their kids, assuming the child does not have a condition that prevents vaccination (you know the ones you put at risk by not vaccinating your kids) are ass holes.
“Giving a one year old multiple shots at once is as crazy as trusting the FDA” Because? It sounds bad to you?
http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/24/who-measles-deaths-are-declining-globally/
“Vaccines reduced outbreak deaths by 74% over that period, with the number of deaths falling from about 535,300 to 139,300.” It seems like this vaccine saved the lives of 400,000 people over ten years. But hey you read on the internet and talked to some friends and determined it was bad so fuck those 400,000 people. If you are trying to do what’s best for your child and you are not vaccinating them you are not doing what’s right.