jscbus

June 24th, 2013 at 1:30 AM ^

Otherwise, the effort is too awkward and arduous when in the open. The discomfort is almost palpable. I'd be permanently irritable too what with masses of people around and numerous "participants" I have to keep track of! No....no - refuge in the weeds. Lots of people playing football, but who's who?

 

FallFraturdays

June 23rd, 2013 at 9:21 PM ^

I think Penn State is going to have some trouble recruiting with Rutgers and Maryland in the mix, along with Michigan establishing a pipeline to VA.  Used to be, if kids of the East Coast wanted to play football in the Big Ten, PSU was the obvious choice.  Plus, it's only about 2.5-3 hours from NJ, 2 hours from Maryland, 3 from Virginia... pretty much the perfect distance to go away to college.  Plus, now that Pitt is in a more established conference, they could start to make some waves (yes, I know it is a perenial underachieving oddball).  If they could take a few more Western Pennsylvania recruits than they usually do (they always seem to get a few high 4 star Pittsburgh kids), Penn State could be in trouble.

gwkrlghl

June 23rd, 2013 at 9:26 PM ^

Penn State is recruiting incredibly well considering the sanctions they're under. They're going to be 110% fine, it's still Penn State.

Rutgers and Maryland are the ones who need to be worried. Michigan is making huge cuts into VA and NJ lately, I'm sure OSU is similar, and Penn State has always had a presence. Between those schools and the ACC, Rutgers and Maryland are going to be picking up the scraps in their own state

Cope

June 23rd, 2013 at 9:39 PM ^

is a power rank I thought I was seeing, as an overall program rank.. We've been setting up to be much more in the future. I guess it's a good thing, but we seem underrated by most people.

DISCUSS Man

June 23rd, 2013 at 10:17 PM ^

Don't sleep on rutgers peeps. They have won some games recently. I'd rank them above the sparts personally.

Perkis-Size Me

June 23rd, 2013 at 11:20 PM ^

What have they really won? Yes, Schiano built the team into a consistent, competitive program, and Flood seems to be picking up where Schiano left off, but they still have never really won anything. They had a chance to lock up their first conference title ever this year and absolutely blew it.

Last year was their window to win anything in the way of titles for probably a long time. They won't overtake Louisville this year, and then they're contending with UM, OSU, and PSU every year following.

Yeah, have fun with that.

BOKNOWS

June 24th, 2013 at 1:44 AM ^

the way i interpreted it-they rank ohio based on recent success, as a prediction for the future. As you can see, a lot of thought went into the analysis.

LSAClassOf2000

June 24th, 2013 at 6:29 AM ^

For comparison, here's how Massy would preliminarily rate the Big Ten (using their Division I rank, not their rank within the conference), and I included Rutgers and Maryland as they sit right now. That might provide a reasonable baseline expectation for next year. Granted, as there is exactly zero data for this year, this is only an estimate. 

Team Rating Est. Wins Est. Losses
Ohio St 17 9.01 2.99
Wisconsin 19 8.84 3.16
Michigan 20 8.27 3.73
Nebraska 25 8.81 3.19
Northwestern 28 7.92 4.08
Michigan St 29 8.26 3.74
Penn St 32 7.82 4.18
Rutgers 48 7.88 4.13
Iowa 65 4.96 7.04
Purdue 68 4.64 7.36
Minnesota 70 5.32 6.68
Indiana 76 4.65 7.35
Maryland 86 4.54 7.46
Illinois 96 2.77 9.23

The interesting thing about this - if you look at it this way - is the considerable gap that would exist between Penn State and Rutgers if the Scarlet Knights were there now, as well as the gap between the ratings of Rutgers and Iowa.  As the conference stands, the fact that there is a difference of over thirty positions between what might be the "upper tier" of the conference and everyone else is telling even on this measure. 

EDIT: As a reply to MadMonkey below, it has much to do with the estimated chances in individual matchups for each team. We have a few more games which Massey would put close to toss-up range than Nebraska does. 

wresler120

June 24th, 2013 at 9:19 AM ^

I don't believe PSU should be #7 if this is a futures ranking. I'd put them at #6 in a worst case scenario with #5 being best case. I don't see MSU outperforming them in the future and the only thing that keeps Wisconsin and Nebraska ahead of them is the division alignment. I see PSU being a very tough team down the road, and they could start pulling in wins this year if Hackenburg comes out strong as a true freshman