Lewis and Butt not finalists for major national awards

Submitted by Real Tackles Wear 77 on November 24th, 2015 at 5:14 PM

Jourdan Lewis not a Jim Thorpe finalist and Jake Butt not a Mackey finalist.

Seems like a travesty in both cases, especially Jourdan's, though passes defended is not as sexy a stat as interceptions, so Iowa's Desmond King got the nod instead.

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mgoDAB

November 24th, 2015 at 5:30 PM ^

This is just fucking stupid.

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SF Wolverine

November 24th, 2015 at 5:30 PM ^

Butt not good enough blocker and Lewis needs to grow some before they are NFL-ready. Another year ....

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UNCWolverine

November 24th, 2015 at 5:48 PM ^

Woo man, I'm surprised you haven't been downvoted through the floor for daringly saying something reasonable that can be taken as a slight to a Michigan player. Upvoting your accordingly.

I dared share my opinion that Peppers would be more valuable as a safety or safety/LB type substance hyrbrid and even possibly a future RB and the board pounced on me with 25 negs. Next day Harbaugh mentioned in the presser that Peppers might get more looks at RB, ha!

Peppers will not spend 4 years as a CB, book it.

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Huma

November 24th, 2015 at 5:59 PM ^

No, you got negged for asserting Peppers shouldn't be a cornerback and should instead be a hybrid safety/lb, which is the position Peppers is clearly already playing.

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UNCWolverine

November 24th, 2015 at 6:40 PM ^

go blue

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wahooverine

November 25th, 2015 at 4:53 AM ^

Ugh you're the worst

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DetroitBlue

November 24th, 2015 at 6:06 PM ^

Your grasp on sarcasm is apparently pretty tenuous

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UNCWolverine

November 24th, 2015 at 6:41 PM ^

go blue.

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billybrown

November 24th, 2015 at 6:08 PM ^

How many times does it have to be explained to you that a hybrid position is what he already plays.

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UNCWolverine

November 24th, 2015 at 6:41 PM ^

go blue.

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OMG Shirtless

November 24th, 2015 at 7:33 PM ^

The last time was pretty entertainig.

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ken725

November 24th, 2015 at 7:35 PM ^

please link, I enjoy a good ragequit.

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OMG Shirtless

November 24th, 2015 at 7:51 PM ^

Still fairly entertaining.

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/turners-future-and-how-relates-rrstaff

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Wolverine Devotee

November 24th, 2015 at 10:48 PM ^

I can confirm that he is NOT Doc Brown.

The former Professor X is Doc Brown. big_house-500 later made an account called WingsNWolverines.

Notably trying to sell his ebay stuff here every week. I know this because he linked his Youtube on here as his meltdown account and it later was the same account when he linked it as WingsNWolverines.

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OMG Shirtless

November 25th, 2015 at 8:14 AM ^

UNCWolverine is a completely different character. Generally stays on the edge of the internet.

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NFG

November 24th, 2015 at 5:30 PM ^

Only good out of this is maybe it's more incentive for them to come back next year.

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MChem83

November 24th, 2015 at 7:19 PM ^

You can expect both of those guys to be gone after this season.

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Noleverine

November 24th, 2015 at 10:24 PM ^

Dude. If you're going to troll, at least know what you're talking about.

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Donnie Brasco

November 24th, 2015 at 5:33 PM ^

both will have big games saturday

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Go Blue Eyes

November 24th, 2015 at 5:35 PM ^

The people deciding the awards are the same people officiating Big Ten games.

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buckeyejonross

November 24th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^

If it makes you feel better, OSU had Jeremy Cash and he transfered because he was mad Urban didn't recruit him to Florida when he was a Florida high school star.

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TIMMMAAY

November 24th, 2015 at 5:44 PM ^

But it just doesn't move the needle for me. It's funny, because I think Urban is a scumbag (no offense to you), but that's about all.

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Monkey House

November 24th, 2015 at 5:49 PM ^

they should come back next year and win them.

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WolverineInCbus

November 24th, 2015 at 5:51 PM ^

The only finalist in that last that deserves it is hunter Henry. The other two finalists have 350 yards receiving...... Jake is about to crack 600.

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bronxblue

November 24th, 2015 at 5:59 PM ^

Lewis not being on the list is silly; he's probably an All American candidate. Jeremy Cash is a good safety, but Duke is scuttling and they've given up buckets of points recently. At some point, you deserve a bit of the blame for a team's struggles.

Butt I guess I get because he's coming on a bit later, though I think he was just named the weekly Mackey award winner, so I'm not sure what matters to them. Again, lots of these college awards are kind of dumb, and people who follow football know how good UM's players are.

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Michigan4Life

November 24th, 2015 at 6:29 PM ^

Jeremy Cash is being looked at as a 1st round pick.

I mean do you want to penalize Brandon Graham for playing on a shitty defense a few years ago? Same thing apply. Bad defense does not mean a player is bad.

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bronxblue

November 24th, 2015 at 11:25 PM ^

But Graham never wound up on the shortlist for a national award. And we punish/reward guys all the time for the success of their teams; there's a reason the Heisman and Maxwell award recipients typically feature mostly guys from teams that win 9+ games a year. I'm not saying Cash isn't a very good safety, only that this feels a bit like a name recognition pick than a guy who has been instrumental in a great defense.

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Michigan4Life

November 25th, 2015 at 12:37 AM ^

average fans don't know who the fuck Jeremy Cash is and they don't know anybody from Duke. There is a reason why Jeremy Cash has been scouted heavily by the NFL. He's a legit S who can play in the box.

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MChem83

November 24th, 2015 at 6:31 PM ^

Butt and Lewis are both good, but not great. Our standards for what constitutes top notch talent have just gotten very low.

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WolverineInCbus

November 24th, 2015 at 6:35 PM ^

Butt's stats are better than 2 of the three finalists with the exception of Henry. Shut up about our standards being low and give Jake some credit for the incredible season he's had.

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bronxblue

November 24th, 2015 at 11:26 PM ^

Butt's been great, but he had a lul in there that (I guess) can explain away why he wasn't included. Also, his blocking is still an area to work on, though I'm not sure how heavily they weigh that anymore for awards like the Mackey.

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Real Tackles Wear 77

November 24th, 2015 at 6:36 PM ^

Lewis is having a great season, not a good one. No debate on that. Whether they are great players or just good is something that it takes a much larger sample size to determine.

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GotBlueOnMyMind

November 24th, 2015 at 6:57 PM ^

There's a difference between being a realist and being a pessimistic downer. Just because we're biased about them doesn't mean they aren't actually great. The fact is, national commentators have mentioned Lewis as having an All American caliber year, that isn't our bias. PFF isn't biased, and it is saying Lewis is the best in the country. And, as WolverineInCbus said, Butt's stats merit him being a finalist. If you're going to be a killjoy, at least do it with some basis.

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MChem83

November 24th, 2015 at 7:29 PM ^

with top receivers and really good passing games have we played? The only time Lewis went up against a really good receiver, he got scorched.

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SagNasty

November 24th, 2015 at 7:44 PM ^

Wtf are you talking about? MChem83 is a troll right?

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Noleverine

November 24th, 2015 at 10:22 PM ^

Yeah, clearly. Apparently has nothing better to do the week before the last game of the season than troll a Michigan board. Go home, RCMB misses your insightful rhetoric.

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WolverineInCbus

November 24th, 2015 at 7:46 PM ^

You're a dumbass. Go back in your hole

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wahooverine

November 25th, 2015 at 4:48 AM ^

You're stupid. Butt is #2 TE on the NFL Big Board, Lewis is best CB in the country according to PFF advances metrics. Is that not great?

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gustave ferbert

November 24th, 2015 at 6:39 PM ^

into Saturday! Thank you awards committee's for allowing those two the opportunity to prove you are idiots.

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Danwillhor

November 24th, 2015 at 6:47 PM ^

more Lewis than Butt but still surprising. I actually thought Lewis would WIN the Thorpe so call me crazy. I'd have bet money on being a finalist. Maybe Butt isn't in due to the change in what a modern TE is on most teams? Doesn't he have more TE receptions and yards than any team in the B1G?

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