I am sorry I missed the inside info, but, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED WITH BOB SHOOP?!
Again, I apologize if this was talked about, but deep in a comment thread that I missed, but can someone please explain what went on with Bob Shoop now that he is gone.
I feel like everyone has talked around it, and maybe for good reason, but a little info would be nice.
(... and start sarcastic comments, but I can't be the only one, right? ... right?... just me?)
January 21st, 2021 at 8:13 PM ^
In his defense Mississippi state never required reading or writing. Michigan should have given him a practice form first.
January 21st, 2021 at 12:46 PM ^
Harbaugh finally realized it was Bob Shoop and not Bob Stoops, so he let him go. Honest mistake.
January 21st, 2021 at 12:58 PM ^
That might have been the easiest money ever made if he was paid in full!
Make several hundred thousand dollars and contribute nothing. Where can I get some employment like that?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:25 PM ^
Politics or government employment
January 21st, 2021 at 1:11 PM ^
I think these two need to look into this
January 21st, 2021 at 1:16 PM ^
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but I thought someone had said basically he did something on campus very early on that would bar him from stepping foot on campus again, and while they never said what it was, it was obviously something you wouldn't legally or socially want to talk about, so it's never been disclosed. Could be totally wrong, but I'm also not sure why he also wasn't fired if he literally couldn't come to work due to a personal mishap.
Or it's Covid related. Who the hell knows?
January 21st, 2021 at 1:33 PM ^
My freshman year somebody in the undergrad library jumped up on a table, dropped trow and started wailing away.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:08 PM ^
A complete rumor was that there was a harassment complaint against him and he was later exonerated. But I would think if true there would be a public record. A second rumor was an altercation with another coach. The first one would seem more true given how it played out.
No idea the voracity of either of these.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:19 PM ^
Shoop was arrested in Columbus for flashing old ladies in a rest home.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:23 PM ^
The facts are, him and Nua went too far playing gay chicken. Everybody ended up with pink eye on the team, set them back an additional couple days of practice. Everything else you are hearing is just pure speculation
January 21st, 2021 at 1:34 PM ^
I have no answers and no inside intel but I have thought about it a lot and come down to two things it could be.
One is that he has a pre-existing condition or one of his family members does and he needed to opt out of the season and bunker down through the pandemic, which angered Harbaugh but would not play well in the media. Why they haven't said so could go back to future chances for employment if he has a medical condition, or football coaches being weird about admitting any kind of weakness.
The other is that he committed some kind of crime that got him barred from campus but cannot be used to fire him without due process, eg sexual harassment. This has happened before at Michigan and other schools, where like a provost hit on a professor and is given a leave of absence while the incident is being investigated, because if you fire someone for sexual harassment without an investigation they can sue you.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:55 PM ^
The only thing I don't understand was if he wasn't available for whatever reason at all, and there are other circumstances that force you to continue to pay him, why would you not change his role at the same pay and just bring in a new safeties coach that will actually - you know - coach?
I actually don't care as much about what happened to him / what he might have done or not done. I care much much more that we essentially had no coach for Daxton Hill. How the fuck is there not a way around the circumstances to get your kids actual coaching? It's pretty clownish.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:58 PM ^
The NCAA limits you to 10 assistant coaches. As long as Shoop was employed, he still counted as one of the 10, AFAIK.
Now you still have grad assistants, "quality control" guys and whatnot available to help coach, but they might not do as good of a job.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:56 PM ^
This is a bad comment. They could have changed his title to consultant or whatever for the season. Come the fuck on man.
January 21st, 2021 at 4:03 PM ^
Demoting a guy because he opted out (or otherwise had a health issue) during Covid sounds like an invitation to get sued.
A more plausible argument is that we maybe could have found someone to take a job as a defensive analyst, but I don’t know what the timeframe was or who would have been out there. For a long time we didn’t know if there would even be a season.
January 22nd, 2021 at 9:54 AM ^
Changing his title doesn't get you around the NCAA limit without a waiver from the NCAA, once you've named your 10 assistants. If we were Ohio State we could have just gotten a waiver, like they did when they hired Urban Meyer during the 2011 season and he was allowed to recruit as an extra assistant. But we're not Ohio State so we can't get such a waiver.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:13 PM ^
I heard the second but he was cleared at some point. A complete unsubstantiated rumor but it fits.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:20 PM ^
FWIW, I like when the cool kids from the front page step out back to mix with the animals on the message board.
Seth seems to be the only one willing.
Hope to see more.
January 21st, 2021 at 1:49 PM ^
something happened off the field non-football related. it wasn't something that should have happened. he's gone accordingly. if it becomes public then everyone will find out.
January 21st, 2021 at 8:14 PM ^
So do you know what it was, or are you being vague like everyone else that has “info” or “best guesses” or “obvious what it is”?
January 21st, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^
I’m not sure what the problem was, but I did hear it’s in his kiss.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:20 PM ^
Personal issues and that’s all we’ll ever know or need to know.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^
I think we do need to know why a coach didn't show up on campus the same way we should know why a player is sitting out or isn't practicing.
January 21st, 2021 at 3:18 PM ^
The board would rather discuss “none of your business” with amateurs like Logan Tuley-Tillman, Chris Evans and Mustapha Muhammad than a 50 year old coach being paid by the university.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:29 PM ^
I spoke with Coach Hoke . . . He had a boo boo.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:31 PM ^
Ummmm.... He's the head coach of Michigan. Harbaugh resigned and after a heated coaching search, Manuel decided to promote internally. Shoop was the obvious choice.
January 21st, 2021 at 2:56 PM ^
maybe he took a Zoom 101 class with Jeff Toobin? lol
January 22nd, 2021 at 1:10 AM ^
Is Bob Shoop the guy in the basement level with the red stapler?
Hey, yeah - I wanna shoop, baby
Shoop shoop ba-doop
January 22nd, 2021 at 11:40 AM ^
Bob Shoop = Sidd Finch