With his newfound national status, how much should Denard play the next two weeks?

Submitted by Firstbase on

My brain says DRob should play sparingly the next two weeks, but my heart says pad the stats, baby! 

TheOracle6

September 14th, 2010 at 6:45 PM ^

Play him in the first half against UMass and then against Bowling Green until the game is in the bag.  While I am all for Denard making a push for the heisman, I want him as healthy and rested as possible heading into the Big Ten season.  Plus we need to see what Devin can do, and how far Tate has come in his second year to make sure we will be okay if Denard should miss a series or two.

Litt1e Rhino

September 14th, 2010 at 7:06 PM ^

Completly disagree. Any game experiance is good for him. He needs to stay sharp. I hope he can get us some quick points then relax on the bench while our two backups showcase they can leas this team also and if denard goes down we won't skip a beat. But denard needs to play for a little.

jmblue

September 14th, 2010 at 7:49 PM ^

Yeah, and three years ago, we had other tailbacks available besides Mike Hart, which is why we didn't play him in the 2nd and 3rd quarters against App State after he suffered a minor injury in the first.  Whoops.

You cannot go into any game with that attitude.  Put the game away, then clear your bench. 

snowcrash

September 14th, 2010 at 7:22 PM ^

His status isn't the issue. The issues, in order:

1. winning

2. limiting the abuse Robinson takes

3. getting Forcier (and Gardner if we can't still finagle a redshirt year*) some reps

In both games, I would keep him in as long as we have a lead of 16 points or less.  

*As I understand it, players can take medical redshirts if they play 2 games or fewer. If Forcier is indeed the #2 now and Gardner the #3, I would not play Gardner if a redshirt is still a possibility, but I'm not sure that the NCAA would or should accept an exaggerated claim of an injury for Gardner. 

jmblue

September 14th, 2010 at 7:44 PM ^

That's how many Junior Hemingway played in 2008 before he got the kissing disease. 

So Gardner could play the next two, get a "Massaquoiectomy" and redshirt.  But it sounds like he really has moved ahead of Tate and if so, it's not worth sitting him. 

Tater

September 14th, 2010 at 7:29 PM ^

My guess is that Denard will play the entire first half and the first series of the second half in both games if they are the blowouts they have the potential to be.  I definitely hope, as Geaux_Blue projected, that the RB's are carrying a little more of the load. 

As for Denard's stats, about which he apparently doesn't care, it shouldn't take nearly as many plays to amass them as it does against better teams.  I could envision a 350-yard first half with a big play or two. 

Don

September 14th, 2010 at 7:31 PM ^

If DR were to sustain an injury against a Div1AA school or whatever the hell they call it, RR would never hear the end of it. Tate and Gardner need the work, and so do our RBs.

cfaller96

September 14th, 2010 at 7:58 PM ^

Denard is awesome, stipulated.  But he's got so much room to improve.  He needs as much game experience as possible making reads and adjustments.  It's not about padding stats, it's about giving him as many opportunities to learn as possible before the conference season starts.

At the very least, keep him in for the first half, and make sure the exotic areas of the playbook are explored.  He needs to keep learning and growing.

justthinking

September 14th, 2010 at 10:55 PM ^

and he needs to have the opportunity to see new defenses and to trust the coaches' playcalling, and then trust his own instincts to beat them on the field. It builds confidence in himself and in his coaches.  I think we'll see even more spectacular downfield blocking for him, as the OLine gets used to beating up other teams instead of themselves (as in practice time).

We're building synchronicity, one play at a time.

MGlobules

September 14th, 2010 at 8:01 PM ^

these games will be like live scrimmages in which they can try EVERYTHING. And they should. Just dazzle us with the RichRod playbook and get everybody in the mix, dudes.

jaggs

September 14th, 2010 at 9:56 PM ^

these games will be like live scrimmages in which they can try EVERYTHING. And they should. Just dazzle us with the RichRod playbook and get everybody in the mix, dudes.

Like a young child touched by a creepy uncle, have you forgotten THE HORROR already? Toledo? Indiana? Have you even been alive the last 4 years?

Why show more in the playbook than the minimum it takes to win? Less film for other teams = better chance to win vs. MSUs, Wiscys, and PSUs of the world.

MGlobules

September 15th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^

return. Thanks for the heads up. I think you gotta see what the kids can do, and there's nothing like real games for that. Obviously you don't show every wrinkle, but I'll bet dollars to donuts RichRod isn't hung up on hiding like Lloyd was. The point of the spread is that if you read the D right then you will gain yards. 

MileHighWolverine

September 14th, 2010 at 8:10 PM ^

going away which would allow us to bring in Tate/Devin for significant reps.  If the games are close, he will have to play more.  The next few games should be interesting from a time of possession/number of plays perspective.  These games would be the perfect time to run 90% jet and see if we can blow the doors off opponents early enough to allow for significant back up PT.

Njia

September 14th, 2010 at 8:23 PM ^

I've got it! All of our QBs go in on every play and we split the reps! See, that way, they all go into the game, we use motion and play action calls, they all get a few snaps, all get to experience "game speed", the defenses are completely confused, and our B10 opponents shit themselves studying the film! What's not to like?

J. Lichty

September 14th, 2010 at 8:40 PM ^

How can we possibly predict how much he will play until we see how the game actually unfolds.

Would you have expected that we would have gone to the wire with Toledo?  Lost to App State (whom UMass is on par with in 1-AA)? 

I don't think that RR is taking anything for granted after the last two years, nor should we.

We should win comfortably, but so should have VT against W and M.

The top 1-AA teams are, as you have seen, capable of beating BCS programs so lets not get cocky kid.

HAIL-YEA

September 14th, 2010 at 8:41 PM ^

going to a rotation over the next couple weeks. Denard will start but Tate and Devin wll get a series or 2 early..if we blow them out early the Denard won't go back in...if the game is still in question he will come back in after the gang has had a couple posessions each.

bklein09

September 14th, 2010 at 8:58 PM ^

I think we come out like gang busters from the first snap, just like we should against any team.

If we do that, we'll build a 21+ point lead sometime in the first half, and then you can start giving Tate/Devin some series.

If things continue to go well, then Denard is done for the day. If it get close at all, he comes back in.

At the end of the season a W this week will count the same as every other W, making it equally as important.

I just hope people don't freak out if DRob were to get hurt in this game. NO ONE benches their starting QB for a whole game just because of the opponent. In a lot of ways its disrespectful to UMass.

Bottom line is that if Denard gets injured because he has to stay in the game for 2-3 quarters, the blame will fall more on the team as a whole IMO because it will mean that they did not take care of business from the start. 

D.C.Blue

September 14th, 2010 at 10:50 PM ^

1st we know we don't want DR hurt but we don't want him losing the edge he currently is playing with. 2nd I know RR is smart enough to protect his #1 commodity but padding DRs stats a little in the hopes we have a breakout year and potentially getting his star player the coveted He16man and in turn drawing more attention to the program for future recruiting. You can't get better pub than being a He16man developer. So what would be a reasonable amount of padding for a team like UMASS? IMO would be to rack up 150 on the ground and 200 in the air by half and then get him outta there If those are his numbers then we know a few things: the game should be in hand with a comfortable lead and the defense is doing their job and putting a number of 3 and outs on the books After half let Devin have a qtr and Tate have a qtr - essentially run the same plays and see who executes the playbook better in a game situation