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01/25/2013 - 1:58pm JOE HUDEPOHL.

Joey Hudepohl. Let's see if anyone has the desire to Google him and figure out why he was supposed to be a Michigan Man. What a shame he went elsewhere.

08/02/2012 - 3:40pm UNISCORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, wait, you say you want it moderated? Never mind, and good luck with that.

01/08/2011 - 10:27am Thank God it's not up to you, then.

If Miles comes, and recruits and wins like I believe he can, I don't care about a "spotless" candidate.

I'm curious why you seem to think that RichRod's "major" violations are equivalent to Miles' major violations.  Also, if you don't care if the next coach likes to screw over 18 year olds and then lie about it*, then I'm very very glad you have absolutely no say in The Process.


*seriously, before you submit another comment go do some research on "oversigning."  It is a deeply immoral practice.

01/08/2011 - 10:18am "Didn't have a spotless record." Please elaborate.

What do you mean when you say RichRod "didn't have a spotless record"?  To what are you referring?

And if not having a spotless record harms the coach's media relationship, then Les Miles is a nonstarter.

01/07/2011 - 12:09am You can scroll up a few comments to see evidence

You know, Boutros, you can scroll up and look at a guy who freely admits that he was only interested in firing RichRod because he thought Harbaugh would be the replacement.  I'm not imagining this.

The point of my bitching is not because I want to be lauded as some sort of genius who was "right," and I'm sad to hear you say that about me.  The point of my bitching is that I don't want this to happen to the next guy.  The next guy should get 5 years, no matter what, and should not be axed after 3 because his rebuilding job was taking too long.

Firing a guy after 3 years is not a good idea, and is a bad precedent.  And most relevant to the next guy's tenure, since part of the justification for doing this bad thing was illusory (as first choice replacements tend to be), maybe we should all agree to never do this again.  That's my point.

01/06/2011 - 10:08pm I never thought this, FTR.

Ironically, even most of the RR supporters also assumed JH was available and ready to sign.  But in their case, it didn't matter; in mine, it did.

Speaking for myself, this was absolutely NOT the case and one of the reasons why I wanted to keep RichRod was because I was highly skeptical of Harbaugh's availability and did not want to go through another national coaching search given the performance of the last one.

I think you may have laid out the groups pretty well, and I appreciate your honesty in confessing to belonging to that third group.  Having said that, you're absolutely one of the guys I'm sarcastically applauding.  I was never comfortable with the implied link between firing RichRod and hiring Harbaugh, and I didn't understand how anyone could think that would go exactly as planned.  Programs rarely get their first choice, and if there wasn't a real second choice then "Harbaugh or Bust" was not a good plan.

[Had] I known that this was media speculation and fan echo chamber bull****, and the choice was between RR and "January national coaching search," I wouldn't have advocated for a coaching change at all. 

Well, here we are.  And again, I appreciate your honesty, should have supported RichRod more.  Oops.

01/06/2011 - 9:57pm Oh, ok, it's just a coincidence then.

Fine, if you don't think Harbaugh's asskicking this year provided even the tiniest push of you from "I still believe" to "FIRE RICHROD," well I stand corrected.  You're not in that group.

But again, if you think Harbaugh's perceived availability had nothing to do with spurring people on to fire RichRod after only 3 years, I think you're wrong.  For just one example, I'd refer you to the "Attention to Detail" post over at Genuinely Sarcastic.  That post was all about how bad RichRod is in comparison to Harbaugh.  And while I'm too lazy to do the research, I'm assuming based on my vague recollection that there were tons of threads here that were all about replacing RichRod with Harbaugh, and how Harbaugh really really would come, etc.  I don't recall a lot of threads discussing a pool of candidates to replace RichRod.  It was always get Harbaugh or keep RichRod, in the minds of many people here (including Brain).

At the end of the day, I will always sarcastically applaud a program for firing a guy after only 3 years because, barring some ethical problem, that's not enough time.  That's not a good formula for long term success.  I'm pretty sure in 2007 most M fans would agree that the head coach deserves more than 3 years, especially if the program is making progress on his watch.  I'd like to think most M fans still believe that today, though now I'm not so sure.

If we agree the head coach deserves more than 3 years, and progress was being made...then how did we get here?  You may continue to protest my theory that the perceived availability played a part in how we got here, but I disagree.  And watching MGo melt down while Harbaugh slips away makes me think I'm closer to the mark than people would rather admit.

01/06/2011 - 6:48pm Three years in, obliterations would have been normally swallowed

I disagree with you if you want to imply Harbaugh's availability had nothing to do with firing RichRod.  Visualizing getting Harbaugh made people feel a little bit easier/more supportive about firing RichRod after only 3 years.  I include you specifically in that group.

Firing a guy after only 3 years who has steadily progressed the team into a winning season just doesn't happen in normal circumstances.  Again- coaches normally get more than 3 years.

The perceived availability of Harbaugh was what made these circumstances abnormal, and was thus a catalyst for firing the coach so quickly.

01/06/2011 - 6:18pm Oh come on. Hire Harbaugh drove the Fire RichRod wagon.

A lot of people desperately wanted to fire RichRod because they thought M could get Harbaugh.  That was a patently stupid idea.

01/06/2011 - 6:01pm Yes, clearly FIRE RICHROD was a perfect plan

I am so happy that the fans who thought firing RichRod automatically meant hiring Harbaugh have been proven right.  Clearly, firing RichRod was an excellent plan, because of course he'll be replaced by Harbaugh.


Thanks, fellow M fans, for contributing to this turmoil and setting a new precedent for firing a guy after only 3 years on the job.  Heckuva job, haters.

01/04/2011 - 12:29pm I disagree, IME all plans are still intact. Brain's losing it.

I'm not really sure how Harbaugh not coming to Michigan is some sort of screwup on Michigan's part.  Here's my speculation on what Dave Brandon's plans were:

Plan A:  fire RichRod, hire Harbaugh, build new harem/pimp crib.

Plan B:  "secretly" woo Harbaugh, fail, retain RichRod, buy new riot gear for A2 police.

Plan C (for Catastrophe):  fire RichRod, woo Harbaugh and fail, hire someone else, cross fingers & start drinking.

To me, it looks like all plans are still plausible.  Even if Harbaugh says no (preferably soon), then Plan B is still in effect.  The only problem that might occur is if Brandon officially fires RichRod before locking in Harbaugh (unlikely IME), in which case if Harbaugh says no then Plan C is put in place.

I'm not sure I see any failed 2 inch putt here.  Not one month ago we all accepted that it was either RichRod or Harbaugh (do I need to go find Brain's post on that?).  That still looks to be the case.

Calm down everyone (and especially you Brain).

11/24/2010 - 11:45am RichRod's not responsible for your real problem

I haven't seen enough that he gets pumped over it also. I live in Ohio, which sucks.

Aaaaaaand that's why you wrote this stupid post.  I'm sorry that your coworkers and neighbors make fun of you for being a Michigan fan, but honestly dude just suck it up.  Rich Rodriguez isn't responsible for your personal emotions.


Hypothetical:  the band marches out onto State Street in January, the week after the bowl game, playing music that no one can hear because they're too damn quiet.  And gets mowed down by a snowplow being driven by Justin Boren.  They're all in traction for at least a year.

Now, love me some band, it's stirring and fun and part of college football, but you can't use that as a rationale to have crappy high school stand-ins do music during TV timeouts.  You gotta pipe in the music to keep the players pumped. It's a big picture decision, not a band decision.  No band is more important than The Team, right?

11/23/2010 - 9:22pm The 2006 offense was healthy. That's a better reference IME

I'm reluctant to trash DeBord because of the injuries in 2007, but the 2006 defense gave the offense plenty of opportunities and plenty of margin of error.  I was never very impressed with the 2006 offense.

Competent? Yes. Good? At times.  Explosive, chart-busting, exciting/electric/etc.? No, absolutely not.

11/23/2010 - 8:51pm I can't hear you because I'm deaf to whining

I'm sorry, I didn't read your epic comment because all I saw was WAAH WAAH WHY DO PEOPLE NEG ME WAAH WAAH.

11/23/2010 - 7:56pm You're proving Brain's point, you know

Brain's point is that people expressing "concern" about the offense using the somewhat obscure stats from the fp'd diary are operating in bad faith and are really just interested in justifying their belief that RichRod should be fired.  You respond by...expressing "concern" about the offense and advocating for firing RichRod.

So, heckuva job you.

11/23/2010 - 7:50pm Please stop tempting fate.

Defense.  Simply, cannot possibly get worse.  Cannot.  This was the nader.  We will never in our lifetimes see a worse UM D than we saw this year, may it R.I.P.

I'm pretty sure a lot of us thought and said this last year.  Please don't jinx 2011 and 2012 by saying things like "it can't get any worse."  No.  It can always get worse, and I don't want to be proved right on this point.

11/23/2010 - 7:42pm I don't think this is *generally* true

Everyone interested in exploring the idea that the offense maybe isn't really as awesome as FBO's stat indicates isn't necessarily out to fire RR.

Technically you're correct (I personally am an example), but I think in general people who are saying "look look this offense is bad because of blah blah blah" are arguing in bad faith.  I don't think Brain has a problem with people suggesting the offense is weak in some areas, but I think he has a very big problem with people who suggest "the offense is bad because they're only 3rd in In-Conference Points Per Drive."

Identifying a flaw in the offense isn't a problem.  Taking that flaw as "evidence" to critique RichRod is.

11/23/2010 - 7:17pm Out of curiosity, are you located in MI?

I remember this type of schism in the fanbase back in 2003, but it was mostly based on geography.  I went back to Michigan for a buddy's wedding and all the talk was about maybe Lloyd Carr should be fired.  I was like WTF?

If you live outside the midwest, you generally don't have the constant discussion about the coach and is he doing a good job and yada fucking yada.  It makes you much more sanguine about it all.  I'm speculating, of course.

11/23/2010 - 7:05pm BUT HE DID X AND THEN I WAS SAD

Rephrased pres70:


11/23/2010 - 7:00pm FWIW, I liked your diary

I didn't perceive your diary to be a criticism of the offense or of RichRod, so I liked the work you did on it.  Brain could be referring to people who used your work as a launching pad for a FIRE RICHROD screed, so perhaps this is a misunderstanding.

11/23/2010 - 4:17pm I think a public apology would have been better

I find it fascinating that some people think deleting a tweet is the same as owning up to and apologizing for a mistake (or two mistakes, really).  Because if we're all interested in sending the right message to recruits, IME it's a much better/stronger message to say "we're humble and secure enough to admit when we fuck up, and we're sorry."

Nothing says "I'd rather duck the issue" more than deleting a tweet and pretending it didn't happen and hoping no one notices and then having your quasi-boss blow up at people who do notice and take exception to it.  But, that's just epinion.

11/23/2010 - 3:58pm You know, you're right. YOUR DREAM IS ALIVE!

Seriously, if you want to suggest that Dave Brandon will fire a coach after only three years and after his first bowl game (all while returning almost everybody for year 4), then go ahead. Personally, that doesn't strike me as a reasonable projection of the future.  To me that seems more like wishful thinking.

But whatever, if you want to continue to wish for someone else and refuse to get the eff on board with the current coach of the team you love, then I can't stop you.  Continue pining away for that NFL Farm Team that is JUST AROUND THE CORNER, if you must.

11/23/2010 - 10:35am I'm struggling to understand how Tom's fuckup is Scorn's fault

Fine, you have a problem with UniScorn and the discourse there, and for some bizarre reason people complain to you about it.  I'm sorry that you receive complaints and I disagree with your assessment of our discourse there, but whatever.

I still fail to see how this makes somebody "unqualified" to criticize Tom's indefensible behavior.  Recall that's the origin of the argument here.  Jamie Mac called him out for it, and you responded by flaming UniScorn and the WLA.  I fail to see the logic.

You want to claim it's "hypocritical" of Jamie Mac (or me or chitown) to criticize Tom for being a dick to the kids?  Even you concede that we're supportive of the kids (even on the dreadful, awful, no good horrible UniScorn), so aren't we just being consistent?  How is it hypocritical to call someone out for being a dick to the kids when we're always supportive of the kids?

We're assholes to Tom (and Magnus and God knows how many other people), fine.  I don't think that makes it ok for Tom to be an asshole to Gallon and Gibbons, and I don't know how that prevents Jamie Mac or anyone else from pointing that out.  Wrong is wrong.

11/23/2010 - 10:06am Dear Moron(s):

To all the people who are desperately seeking legitimate ways to express "concern" over RichRod even though he has met expectations while simultaneously fielding a secondary literally full of HS kids:



Sane Michigan Fans

11/22/2010 - 5:07pm So in your world, 110,000 people thinking it = OK to print, rly?


1.  Let's establish the fact that you have a dog in this fight.  Tom generates content for your site, of the news-ish variety, and thus you have a stake in defending his reputation.  You are not a neutral arbiter on what is and what is not acceptable behavior by Tom.

2.  What is or is not said in a memory-free zone (i.e. UniScorn) has to be taken with a grain of salt.  I'm pretty sure 90% of the things we say on the Scorn we would never say anywhere else because on the Scorn it's not permanent. It frees up (or uglies, if you will) our discourse.

3.  You don't see me talking shit about players on my twitter account, partially because I know that stuff is (at least partially) permanent and I shouldn't be putting things on my permanent record when I'm emotional. I'm pretty sure you don't do it either, for a similar reason. cannot say the same for Tom.  If you want to pretend that's a meaningless distinction between the behavior of me, you, most people and Tom, that's your right.  But, IME the fact that Tom is so loose with his words on something that has a bit of a permanent record is at the very least an indication of poor judgment.

4.  Say what you will about the WLA, but we're pretty consistent on being supportive of the kids, on the Scorn, on Twitter, on MGo, pretty much everywhere.  Occasionally one or more of us will stray but we police ourselves pretty well on supporting the kids.


Tom showed poor judgment in his tweeting, and in addition was ugly towards the kids.  Twice.  As a contributor to your site, that should concern you more than whatever is said on the Scorn.

11/22/2010 - 4:29pm Grilled Apple Curry Chicken


  • 1 (8 ounce) jar apple curry chutney
  • 1/4 cup Apple NESTLE® JUICY JUICY® All Natural 100% Juice
  • 2 cloves garlic, peeled
  • 1 teaspoon curry powder
  • 4 boneless, skinless chicken breast halves (about 5 oz. each)
  • 1 (9 ounce) package BUITONI® Refrigerated Linguine
  • Chopped fresh parsley (optional)


  1. Preheat grill or broiler.
  2. Place chutney, Juicy Juice, garlic and curry powder in food processor or blender; cover. Process until smooth. Reserve 1/3 cup.
  3. Prepare pasta according to package directions; keep warm.
  4. Grill or broil chicken, brushing frequently with remaining chutney mixture, until chicken is no longer pink in center. Slice chicken; place over pasta. Spoon reserved chutney mixture over chicken; sprinkle with parsley.
11/18/2010 - 6:25pm This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke.


11/08/2010 - 1:05pm Regardless of outcome, I hate Danny Hope. What an asshole.

Ever since last year's postgame handshake where Danny Hope "introduced" RichRod to the Purdue player that got suspended for a late hit, I've hated that fucker and that fucker's moustache.

Fuck you Danny Hope.  Regardless of how the game turns out, you're still an asshole that deserves to eat shit and die.

11/05/2010 - 11:42am I don't know. Maybe work on the basics.

When tackling, coverage, zone spacing, and making reads are consistent problems, then I don't think scheme is going to help any of that.  I guess I would work on those fundamentals before I worried too much about scheme.

I understand the coaches worry about too many tackling drills resulting in injury.  But A) we're getting pretty injured anyway, and B) fuck it we're going into the 9th game, fundamentals have to be a priority.  Focus on teaching the basics, because they're sorely lacking in that department and nothing else will improve until that improves.

Other than that, I don't know that there's anything a DC can really do at this point.

11/02/2010 - 5:44pm Yep. Does anyone else run/know the 3-3-5?

I really don't think Casteel is likely, for exactly the reasons laid out by the OP. any other DCs with established track records know or run the 3-3-5?

A brief bit of unverified googling brings this up:

San Diego State DC Rocky Long (the inventor...?)

UTEP DC Osia Lewis

Wake Forest DC Brad Lambert

Florida DC Teryl Austin (sort of, he's a multiple guy)

Marshall DC Chris Rippon (maybe?)

Louisiana-Monroe DC Troy Reffett

...and I'm tired of googling.

11/02/2010 - 5:27pm Co-signed. And your avatar pic looks like a guy I knew. Weird.


11/02/2010 - 5:06pm Casteel offers best chance at smooth/effective transition

1.  RichRod is, for better or worse, committed to running a "base" 3-3-5 scheme*.  Argue all you want about whether this is good or bad, but the bottom line is this is the scheme RichRod wants and it's his call (for now).

2.  He is now on his second defensive coordinator that doesn't know and/or like that scheme.  Results from forcing a DC to run this have been obvious and disastrous.

3.  Because of 1 and 2, the quickest and easiest route to improving this defense therefore lies in getting a guy that knows the 3-3-5 scheme.  Casteel is an obvious choice for that.  There may be other guys out there that know this scheme, but Casteel's history with RichRod and the rest of the defensive staff is a plus because then we know we won't have another Shafer personality conflict.

I don't think anyone should get their hopes up for Casteel.  He said no the last time, and if Uncle Stew is sacked he may very well be a candidate to replace him.  It's an intriguing possibility, but not a likely one IME.

I don't mind being committed to the 3-3-5.  I like the additional flexibility it allows in recruiting.  The problem is that so few defensive coaches know it, that committing to it means you're picking your staff from a very, very small pool of candidates.

Having said all that, a lot of the problems I see on defense are basic things, like tackling and coverage.  A good DC with his own staff could/should improve that regardless of the scheme.  I'd be open to a new guy cleaning house, even though that won't be a panacea.

(*yeah, I know the defense is actually multiple, but from a personnel & recruiting standpoint this is a 3-3-5 defense.  That's the "base.")

10/30/2010 - 5:29pm Confession: I'm intrigued

I usually recipe post threads that speculate on replacing Gerg, but...oooh, the poster is so seductive in laying out how this might happen.  I gotta admit, I'd be tempted to take a guy who has FAR more experience running a 3-3-5 scheme and we already know Casteel and RichRod have good chemistry and yeah that transition would be pretty smooth and...


10/29/2010 - 8:34pm I'm noticing that you're quick to criticize, slow to suggest

I've noticed a couple people ask you who should have been FS instead of Cam Gordon.  I've also noticed you studiously avoid answering that question.  I wonder if we wandered over to Touch The Boner whether we would find a post where you actually offer an alternative to Cam Gordon.  Oh sure, now you say Carvin Johnson should have been the guy, but...really?  You've been saying all along that a true freshman should have started FS three weeks after he arrived on campus?  I'd be curious to see where you said that.

(Also, I think that would have been a stupid idea- starting a true freshman with zero game experience and only a few weeks of practice is FAR worse than starting a true freshman with several games of experience and months of practice.  That you can't see or admit this is really quite telling.)

Guys that are so quick to criticize and are noticeably slow to suggest are guys that are just generally not very helpful or productive.  Just an observation.

10/29/2010 - 5:35pm Gamblers always remember their wins and forget their losses

When Magnus offers up 10-20 suggestions a week, and 8 week laters one of the coaches "follows" his advice, apparently that means MAGNUS WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG.

(Cue Magnus talking about Brandon Minor, and conveniently forgetting his advice on Denard)

10/29/2010 - 5:29pm When you offer 1000 suggestions, how many should be listened to?

So why does it take them 7 games to figure out that Cam Gordon can't play FS?  Why does it take them 7 games to figure out that Carvin Johnson can't hack it at LB?

I find it interesting that as a coach, you seem to give no thought to the idea that kids progress and improve over time.  And by "interesting," I mean "horrifying."

Since you insist this was a good idea months ago, then it follows that you obviously see no value in:  giving Cam Gordon the opportunity to improve and learn at FS; giving Johnson the opportunity to improve and learn at Hybrid; giving both Gordon and Johnson more practice time to learn new positions.  No, for you, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MONTHS AGO BECAUSE THEY ARE LOST CAUSES WHERE THEY ARE AND THEY CAN'T HACK IT BLER BLER BLER.  Wonderful, dude.  Truly inspirational.

As a coach who is so dismissive of giving kids opportunities to learn and grow, you should be ashamed of yourself.  You have obviously missed one of the biggest joys, if not the biggest joy of coaching:  seeing kids seize opportunities to improve and become more capable in their sport.

Thank God you were never my coach, and thank God you'll never coach any of my kids.

10/29/2010 - 2:49pm Oh, you don't understand? I can help you out.

I just don't understand what these coaches are doing sometimes.  I don't know if it's Rodriguez or Robinson or Brathwaite or what, but sometimes it just seems like they don't have a clue.

You don't understand what they're doing?  An assist:

A)  They're trying to win football games.

B)  They have tons more experience and knowledge than you do.

C)  They have tons more player information than you do.

D)  Therefore, if you "don't understand" what they're doing, chances are the problem is with you, not with them.

I hope that helps.

10/17/2010 - 5:40pm Yeah, but you don't watch the games, so whatever

You didn't watch the UConn game, so I'm not sure why your opinion on what should or should not have been done in the UConn game is relevant.

10/15/2010 - 7:23pm I don't have what you're looking for

Why do you think he is?  What does he do that makes you believe that he is a good DC?

Last year I watched him work with the kids on the sidelines.  After giving up huge plays, Gerg would always calmly talk to them and be positive.  He was never full of spit and anger.  At least, it appeared that way to me.  That's why I think he's a good coach- he's more focused on teaching over the long term than he is on the appearance of teaching in the short term.  Remember, these are kids we're talking about, not an NFL farm team.  A good coach is going to have to get the kids to want to do what he's asking.

I admit that's not tangible, nor can it be empirically proven.  Which is why I'm willing to admit that time could reveal me to be wrong and Gerg to be bad.  But without that time, no judgment either way can be proven right or wrong.

The examples you point to do not include an entire coaching transition.  The rosters on those defenses were not depleted.  To combine both a program transition and a depleted roster is always going to be death.  I am not going to advocate more turmoil to a roster that is already young, thin, and only moderately talented.  Just because it worked a couple times at a couple programs doesn't mean it will happen that way this time.  And, there's no need to take that risk- as long as the kids are being developed (and we won't really know that for another year), then there is no reason to risk stopping the progress.

10/15/2010 - 6:52pm What part of "BE PATIENT" do you not understand?

Look, I know that sounds dickish, because I guess it is dickish.  But whatever- how many times must we say BE PATIENT before people understand we're not saying GERG IS AWESOME...?  How many times?  100?  1000?  How many more "OMG what's wrong with the defense?" threads must we endure before people wise up to the reality of the roster?

I have no idea if Gerg is any good (though my opinion right now is that he is).  But I think it is FAR more important for the Michigan defense to have some stability and continuity.  The reason why this defense sucks in the first place is because there's been so much turmoil there*- give Gerg a chance is all any of us are saying.  He may blow that chance, agreed.  But now is not the time to make that judgment.  Now is the time to rebuild the roster, and that can't happen if the DC is being fired every 2-3 years.

*and yes, I realize that some of that turmoil is RichRod's fault.  I believe firing Shafer after only one year was RichRod's one and only true mistake so far.  Then again, it was his call so eh we just gotta roll with it.

10/15/2010 - 6:41pm Desire for PT == Impatience...? Maybe?

You're pointing out guys who were with the program for 2 years or less (Donovan Warren is an exception because apparently he was never going to stay 4 years).

It's possible what we're witnessing is a bit of impatience from the players themselves.  They come in expecting to play right away, don't win playing time, and decide to leave because they're unsure they'll ever get PT.  I don't know if this is RichRod's fault for overselling their chances, the kids for not being mature/resilient enough to handle having to earn PT, both, or neither.

Regardless, as leery as I am about the attrition, I won't get overly concerned with it until it becomes a pattern over more than 2 years.  If we're still seeing ridiculous (Artis Chambers, Marell Evans, srsly?) transfers into next year and beyond, then I'll start to wonder just what the hell RichRod is doing to these kids.

10/15/2010 - 4:47pm Funny how the Gerg haters go silent on posts like this.

Brain does interesting analysis, finds an astounding comparison, and presents a logical conclusion that says (again) "BE PATIENT WITH THE DEFENSE."  And all the Gerg and RichRod haters go strangely silent.  Funny how that works.

10/15/2010 - 3:42pm Pumpkin Whoopie Pies


  • 2 cups packed brown sugar
  • 1 cup vegetable oil
  • 1 1/2 cups solid pack pumpkin puree
  • 2 eggs
  • 3 cups all-purpose flour
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  • 1 teaspoon baking powder
  • 1 teaspoon baking soda
  • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
  • 1 1/2 tablespoons ground cinnamon
  • 1/2 tablespoon ground ginger
  • 1/2 tablespoon ground cloves
  • 1 egg white
  • 2 tablespoons milk
  • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
  • 2 cups confectioners' sugar
  • 3/4 cup shortening


  1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Lightly grease baking sheets.
  2. Combine the oil and brown sugar. Mix in the pumpkin and eggs, beating well. Add the flour, salt, baking powder, baking soda, 1 teaspoon vanilla, cinnamon, ginger and cloves. Mix well.
  3. Drop dough by heaping teaspoons onto the prepared baking sheets. Bake at 350 degrees F (175 degrees C) for 10 to 12 minutes. Let cookies cool then make sandwiches from two cookies filled with Whoopie Pie Filling.
  4. To Make Whoopie Pie Filling: Beat egg white and mix with the milk, 1 teaspoon vanilla and 1 cup of the confectioners' sugar. Mix well then beat in the shortening and the remaining cup of confectioners' sugar. Beat until light and fluffy.
10/14/2010 - 9:15pm No, he didn't have to. Do you know the story? You don't, do you?

Brandon spoke to the recruits this past weekend.  He didn't have to do that.

Unprompted, Brandon unequivocally stated that RichRod's going to be here for a long time.  He didn't have to do that.

Oh, and this wasn't in public.

I really don't get how Dave Brandon going out of his way to tell recruits that RichRod is safe can somehow be interpreted as him being "forced" to do this, and it's kind of weird that you're asserting Michigan's AD is lying.

He didn't have to do any of this, but he did.  It seems like the only people who are interpreting this as nothing are people who want it to mean nothing.  Good luck with that.

10/14/2010 - 7:16pm I don't know what you're looking for, but I hope you find it.

If you want to be a pessimist and insist that DOOM is around the corner, well, then good luck I guess.  I don't know what you're getting from Michigan football if 5-1 is worse than 4-2 and it's all just worse worse worse blah blah blah blah.  Whatever.

10/14/2010 - 6:37pm It sounds like you *want* failure.

I have never seen someone so contort an AD's (semi)public statement of support for a head coach to mean...nothing.  We can only go on what Dave Brandon says, but you want to extrapolate it to represent what he can or cannot imagine.  It's almost as if you don't want that public statement of support to mean anything.

I wonder why.

10/14/2010 - 5:35pm You *do* realize that a lot of these guys are Carr recruits?

lloyd carr would have recruited better defensive players.

A lot of this defense is still made up of Lloyd Carr recruits.  Or did you think RichRod recruited Obi Ezeh?

10/14/2010 - 5:33pm See below for response.

Lloyd's not coming back.  Get over it.

10/14/2010 - 5:31pm Wow. Did you just get a colon exam or something?

You really need to relax.  When you start thinking that Having Fun == Not Caring, then you need to take a deep breath.

Everybody here cares about M football.  Just because someone is interested in enjoying the games doesn't mean he doesn't care.  And I'm very depressed that I have to explain that.