The thing about RRod that upsets me (The Game)

Submitted by Thatguy2525 on November 24th, 2010 at 10:47 AM

I'm sure this has probably been discussed on this board many of time, but I just wanted to add my thoughts and get yours this week before the game.

I was looking through ESPN and noticed an article about the game. Now as much as I hate tOSU, I do think ol sweater vest himself is a great coach. He emphasizes the game more than anything and I respect that. His main thing when he was hired was to beat us and man have they ever.

Rich Rod has been aware of the game, but seems like it's not his main focus. I know he has bigger plans, but I think beating them should be right behind national championship. I also think that should be in the back of his head all year long, game planning for them.

I guess I just want more emotion out of him for this game and hope that maybe he will have some things up his sleeve. God I pray that this horrible streak comes to a end now, this weekend. Everyone thinks next year for sure, but this year would be even sweeter.



November 24th, 2010 at 10:54 AM ^

the sweater vest made of point of saying he will beat michigan in his first address to a stadium of rabid fans

I know that may sound silly, or it may be playing to the masses but he did it

does rich rod have a similar moment?  honestly, I know its silly and I have no idea what he does behind closed doors, but as of right now he is 0-5 against our 2 biggest B10 rivals and is entering the game as an enormous underdog


November 24th, 2010 at 11:12 AM ^

Am I missing something? When did Notre Dame not become a rivalry? I keep hearing the "0-6" against our two main rivals stat. Even if they are down, I don't see how it's not relevant to include them. I know I hate those guys and it means something to me to beat them. 


November 24th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^

I know exactly what you said. But you said it in the context of Rich Rod doesn't "get" the rivalries we have. My point is that you can't cherry-pick stats for the sake of argument. He's 2-1 against ND, which is, as you agree, a huge rivalry. So this meme that he doesn't "get" rivalries is bs. 


November 24th, 2010 at 12:21 PM ^

but different era

Bo understood all he could control was winning the B10 and he did (13/20)

there was not a BCS system set up, he could not control the voters and who they awarded the national championship to

“If you look at the Harris poll, two-thirds of them really don't know what they're doing. About one-third does, but two-thirds don't,”


November 24th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^

Know your audience.

OSU fans demand victory in The Game.  Tressell knew that, and is enough of an accomplished coach to have provided some auxiliary benefits beyond his record against Michigan.  You really think that Cooper was fired because of his 8-4 record his final season? "2-10-1" is probably a more notorious statistic in the minds of OSU fans than the number of national championships they've won.

Michigan fans don't operate in the same vacuum, and I don't need a silly little speech to remind me that our head coach is doing everything he can to win EVERY game.  What happened to Cooper will never happen here.


November 24th, 2010 at 10:56 AM ^

Yeah, but in the same sense, I haven't seen enough that he gets pumped over it also. I live in Ohio, which sucks. But everytime they show a interview with sweater vest or quotes, he is talking about the game with great emotion. Reminds me of Bo and Carr. I guess that's what I'm looking for is some old school talk.


November 24th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^

I haven't seen enough that he gets pumped over it also. I live in Ohio, which sucks.

Aaaaaaand that's why you wrote this stupid post.  I'm sorry that your coworkers and neighbors make fun of you for being a Michigan fan, but honestly dude just suck it up.  Rich Rodriguez isn't responsible for your personal emotions.


November 24th, 2010 at 10:53 AM ^

You're right, Rodriguez doesn't care about the rivalry and just views this as another game.  In his entire existence as a coach in football, he has never been at a school that had a hated rival and thus will never understood what it means.  I'm sure he gameplanned more for BGSU, because he probably vowed to never lose to a MAC school ever again.

What a bum!


November 24th, 2010 at 3:12 PM ^

You are correct in that there were problems between Coach Rodriguez and the WVU AD well before the Pitt game. However, if WV wins, there's no way he leaves before the national championship game. Michigan would never have waited that long and he would not be here.

Knowing a number of WV alumni, from everything I've heard they have additional consternation about him due to his seeming approach to Pitt as just another conference game.

They lost Pat White, but they still should never have lost that game. They were in trouble from the start, Pitt was just better prepared and he was outcoached.


November 24th, 2010 at 10:53 AM ^

I don't think we will have objective evidence that he cares about this game. UNACCEPTABLE

What would you like him to do? Swear on TV? Beat his wife? Perhaps a crown of thorns?

/s for the challenged

Ed Shuttlesworth

November 24th, 2010 at 10:57 AM ^

You wonder whether Rod underplayed the rivalry too much before the infamous Pitt game.  Pitt came in loaded for bear and WVU didn't come close to matching that intensity.

Much as I was psyched about Rod's hiring -- and I was extremely psyched -- that game now looks more like a foreshadowing than an accident, with sloppy preparation matching the general sloppiness he's exhibited about the job beyond the offense.  The Pat White injury obviously didn't help, but you simply CANNOT lose that game if you're Rod.  It's almost as if Rod thinks his offense is so great that he doesn't need to worry much about defensive scheme, defensive coaches, and intangibles like rivalry week.

Gotta call 'em like I see 'em.


November 24th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^

     I remember all three losses very well.  In our haste to restore the traditions of Michigan football, let us not forget that one of those traditions under Bo was to consistently lose our bowl game, even when we were favored.  I remember hearing every excuse from rustiness after tOSU to not being accustomed to playing on natural grass.

     The obvious response is "at least we got to the bowl games" but back then it was basically a two team conference.  PSU wasn't there, Wiscy was a doormat, and Iowa was an afterthought.

     The program was slipping in 2007 and we hit rock bottom the following year.  Am I happy with the progress thus far?  No but changing leadership at this time is asking for more uncertainty.  If we are still having this debate a year from now, I think almost everyone will agree a change is needed.



November 24th, 2010 at 11:31 AM ^

but you simply CANNOT lose that game if you're Rod."

So by your standards, Bo Schembechler simply CANNOT lose to MSU, Iowa, Purdue, Ohio State, or Brigham Young in 1984, regardless of the fact that his starting QB was out with a broken arm. That's just a silly excuse.

Not only that, but Bo Schembechler took undefeated teams with a chance at playing for a national championship into the Ohio State game four times—1970, 1972, 1973, and 1974—and FAILED to beat Ohio State in any of them. That certainly foreshadowed something, all right. Bo clearly wasn't the right guy to coach Michigan.