Hello: Kyle Grady (PWO)

Submitted by Chicken22 on August 17th, 2017 at 11:05 PM

Kyle Grady is a QB from California in the 2018 recruiting class. There was talk of Michigan taking two QBs in this class, so I wonder if Michigan will still try and get another one, to go along with Joe Milton, now that Grady is commited.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/kylegradyqb/status/898370327205433344

Hudl: http://www.hudl.com/profile/1755024/kyle-grady

Comments

JonnyHintz

August 18th, 2017 at 4:28 AM ^

I'd say impressive. The problem with GPA (and generally, American education period) is that the grading scale is set up to reward obedience, not intelligence. Getting good grades doesn't mean you're smart. It means you follow directions and listen to what the teachers tell you to do.

If I refuse to do my math homework, I'll get a failing grade. Does that mean I'm stupid? Does that mean I don't know how to do the math? No, it simply means I didn't obey the teacher when they told me to do the homework.

JonnyHintz

August 18th, 2017 at 4:02 PM ^

It's stupid to an obedient person's PoV. As I said. Grades measure obedience. Not intelligence. So why would I give a rats ass if I get a good grade or not? I realize if I don't do the homework I'd get a bad grade. But clearly I don't care what my grades are. It doesn't measure how smart I am:

Everyone Murders

August 18th, 2017 at 6:03 PM ^

If this person doesn't give a rat's ass whether he gets good grades or not, why TF is he taking the ACT or SAT in the first place?  That doesn't seem very smart.  Seems kinda stupid, really.

Also, simply repeating "grades measure obedience" doesn't make it true.  I mean, maybe for remedial classes that might be true (simply showing up will likely do the jerb there), but AP Calculus II requires a lot of work and intelligence.  Same with AP Stats, AP Calc I, and many other classes.

Obedience alone forms a small part of what it takes to get good grades in those.  Unless, again, you count "getting the conformist correct answers" on exams as "obedience".

Blue_by_U

August 18th, 2017 at 7:43 AM ^

"this is the police! I said put the gun down! Get down on the ground!"

"ok this is very important...when disabling an IED because of the volitile nature of each device it is critical to handle it with slow, methodical and stable movements..."

"Hintz, as your supervisor if you want to continue working for this firm, I suggest you start arriving on time, and put more focus into your clients, and work habits"

"this is a letter from the Internal Revenue Service informing you that your back taxes are due effective immediately..."

while perhaps a bit of a stretch and by no means do I believe complete obedience is healthy nor necessary...there are points in real life where following rules and doing what you are asked to do is kind of important. Maybe you missed the entire point of academic preparation...most of that gpa tied to obedience is a soft stage demonstarting your ability to do what you are supposed to do. Did you think we really WANT to grade that crap for our amusement!?

BroadneckBlue21

August 18th, 2017 at 7:54 AM ^

That's a pretty stupid way of lookin at education, to be blunt, as an educator of 15 years. Not everyone who works hard is that good at writing or math or science or history. GPA is as good an indicator as star rankings. Some smart people are really lazy, but a majority of kids struggle because they cannot process, apply, or retain information that well. Sure, hard work can push up some GPAs, but more kids would graduate college if all they had to do was show up.

Everyone Murders

August 18th, 2017 at 8:10 AM ^

I like the recruiting stars analogy.  Like recruiting stars, GPA's not perfect - but it's still a pretty good indicator of who will succeed at the next level.

Plus, if you're going to a competitive school (or in virtually any respectable STEM program) in college, just "testing well" is not going to be enough for a successful experience.  And, in the "real world" obedience, diligence, and intelligence are necessary.  I've run into plenty of self-styled geniuses who have no work ethic, and their careers uniformly end poorly.

JonnyHintz

August 18th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

No, it's really not that stupid. Really, all you have to do in high school is show up and do the work. You'll graduate with a decent GPA. It doesn't adequately measure intelligence.

One of the smartest men i know, currently teaching at Ferris State, graduated high school with a 2.1 GPA. He took the ACT, scored a 33. Teachers couldn't believe it. Made him take it AGAIN. Scored a 35. He felt he wasn't challenged in high school. So he didn't see it as worth it to put forth the effort. Why waste his time doing multiplication tables and long division when he was ready for calculus? It wasn't worth his time. He understood that a GPA doesn't determine his intelligence or knowledge. It was a reflection of whether or not he did his assignments.

Everyone Murders

August 18th, 2017 at 7:56 AM ^

I disagree with this on a fundamental basis.  While there is an element of obedience (e.g., you do have to get homework in on time, not be a jackass during class, etc.), good grades in my kids' school required diligence and intelligence.  Especially these days when a kid is often taking five or more AP classes with all the other "smart kids".  And the tests they take in those classes don't rely much on "obedience".   And the AP tests for college credit don't really seem to rely on "obedience" much.

Unless you define "obedience" as "selling out to the system" by - you know - giving the conformist correct answer to the questions.  In which case the ACT and SAT also reward "obedience".

MGoBrewMom

August 18th, 2017 at 8:21 AM ^

"Getting good grades" is not the same at a 4.7.

lots of kids "do their math homework" and don't get all As, including AP classes, and have an opportunity to go to MIT, and Ivy League top schools. So you should have just stopped after your first sentence. It IS impressive.

JonnyHintz

August 18th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

Nobody said all A's. I said it's not an adequate measurement of intelligence. A kid getting a 3.5 isn't necessarily smarter than a kid getting a 2.5. Could be as simple as the kid with the 3.5 was more obedient and did all of the assignments.

That's not taking anything away from the kid with a 4.0 (or 4.7). It's more a knock on the system which puts a premium on obedience and simply doing the assignments than your actual knowledge and understanding. It's the reason the US is falling so far behind global education.

MGoStrength

August 18th, 2017 at 9:32 AM ^

From the perspective of a HS teacher...school is not meant to rank students based on intellegence.  It's to prepare them for college and/or life after HS.  It's to give students the skills to hold a job, contribute to society, etc.  

 

Teachers should be upfront with how they plan to assess students from the syllabi.  It should be obvious how they are giving students grades.  If a student fails to do the assessments that they are graded on that doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, but it does probably mean they will have trouble with assignments at work and/or college in the future, which is not a recipe for success. 

 

JonnyHintz

August 18th, 2017 at 4:25 PM ^

Or it's simply not worth my time. If I'm ready for calculus, why am I going to waste my time doing times tables? If I'm reading medical journals and Shakespeare, why am I going to read Harry Potter? If I have the ability to be making noise on Wall Street, why would I waste my time working at a corner store?

If I know the info, why would I waste my time doing the homework? I'll ace your tests. What does the homework prove?

MGoStrength

August 18th, 2017 at 7:57 PM ^

Are you doing any of those things?  I guess your current status would answer that question.

 

Typically if someone is very advanced the educators around them will put them in a place more suitable for their level.  For instance, we have people that graduate early or take college courses while in HS.  People can test out of classes.  If someone doesn't want to do the work however, at some point however you have to question work ethic.

M Ascending

August 18th, 2017 at 7:43 AM ^

I was hoping he was a true dual threat QB we were bringing on to run the scout team to prep for read option offenses. But his film says otherwise-- pure pro-style QB. At least he'll get an education worthy of his GPA.

uminks

August 18th, 2017 at 1:04 AM ^

Lloyd Brady!  Welcome Kyle Brady. May be you will be the first PWO to start at QB one day. I don't think there has been on in modern football times.