CC: Mark Richt revisited - Nebraska Candidate?
Mark Richt has been mentioned a few times in regards to the Nebraska opening given he grew up in the state. Given that tomorrow's meeting between Hoke and Hackett should leave us with an opening, and UGA's loss to Georgia Tech on Saturday, this might be a serious candidate for Michigan to consider.
Reasons for Richt
135-48 overall record
78-34 SEC record
6 first place finishes in the SEC East since 2001
2 SEC Titles
2-1 in BCS bowl games
Runs a clean program
Strong opponent of oversigning
Seems to get more out of less during his tenure at Georgia
Innovative and successful OC while at FSU during the 90s
Reasons against:
1-5 vs Meyer
Doesn't have a ton of marquee wins behind his name
Doesn't seem to win the big one in the SEC
Reasons he might leave:
Worn out by fan base that doesn't understand how good they have it
Worn out by boosters who keep trying to pay kids
Easier to win B1G title than SEC title
Michigan > Georgia (college programs)
Two words: Nick Saban
Reasons he would stay:
SEC east is pretty weak
14 years at Georgia and spent much of his life in the south
Georgia is a talent rich state, next to talent rich Florida
Two words: Urban Meyer
I don't believe we are getting Harbaugh. Miles is just jerking our chain to get a pay raise, and why would he come? No one wants Schiano. A MACtion coach could be the next Bo, or might be the next Hoke - a lot of risk. He's also not a high profile coordinator without any head coaching experience (Narduzzi). Honestly, who else is out there that might be remotely in play and has a winning track record - Todd Graham?
December 1st, 2014 at 10:35 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
So Nebraska just fired a guy that has trouble winning big games...and is considering another guy that has trouble winning big games?
As to him coming here...big fat no. If you haven't realized we are going against of the best coaches in the country at Ohio State and Michigan State. Unless you're okay with OSU getting closer and closer to tieing the series, he isn't the guy.
December 1st, 2014 at 10:41 PM ^
Record below. Like Lloyd he has a lot of 3-4 win seasons offset by a few 2 loss seasons. I will say 2002 is akin to our 97 season. Yes they didnt win the NC but 1 damn loss, that's a margin of error. He had some rought years in 09 and 10 and again in 13.
This is almost identical to Stoops in that he has been in 1 place a long time and people look at Saban and want that. I think Stoops has been a step above what Richt did but really if you put Lloyd in Georgia, Richt in Oklahoma, and Stoops at UM for the past 15 years I bet they all pretty much do the same thing within 3-5 wins over 10+ years. All very good coaches. None are Saban. No one is.
Richt is a native of Nebraska hence the connection. You'd basically get the same type of coach in terms of on field record in Les Miles who also happens to love the university. He is probably not as "clean" as Richt and is older but if offered by UM today probably wouldl be a much easier fish to land - it's pretty much a wash.
| Year | Team | Overall | Conference | Standing | Bowl/playoffs | Coaches# | AP° | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Georgia Bulldogs (Southeastern Conference) (2001–present) | |||||||||
| 2001 | Georgia | 8–4 | 5–3 | T–3rd (East) | L Music City | 25 | 22 | ||
| 2002 | Georgia | 13–1 | 7–1 | 1st (East) | W Sugar | 3 | 3 | ||
| 2003 | Georgia | 11–3 | 6–2 | T–1st (East) | W Capital One | 6 | 7 | ||
| 2004 | Georgia | 10–2 | 6–2 | 2nd (East) | W Outback | 6 | 7 | ||
| 2005 | Georgia | 10–3 | 6–2 | 1st (East) | L Sugar | 10 | 10 | ||
| 2006 | Georgia | 9–4 | 4–4 | T–3rd (East) | W Chick-fil-A | 23 | |||
| 2007 | Georgia | 11–2 | 6–2 | T–1st (East) | W Sugar | 3 | 2 | ||
| 2008 | Georgia | 10–3 | 6–2 | 2nd (East) | W Capital One | 10 | 13 | ||
| 2009 | Georgia | 8–5 | 4–4 | T–2nd (East) | W Independence | ||||
| 2010 | Georgia | 6–7 | 3–5 | T–3rd (East) | L Liberty | ||||
| 2011 | Georgia | 10–4 | 7–1 | 1st (East) | L Outback | 18 | 18 | ||
| 2012 | Georgia | 12–2 | 7–1 | T–1st (East) | W Capital One | 4 | 5 | ||
| 2013 | Georgia | 8–5 | 5–3 | 3rd (East) | L Gator | ||||
| 2014 | Georgia | 9–3 | 6–2 | 2nd (East) | |||||
| Georgia: | 135–48 | 78–34 | |||||||
| Total: | 135–48 | ||||||||
December 1st, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
C'mon, we're just throwing around names at this point.
If anyone's coming here from the SEC, it's Miles.
December 1st, 2014 at 10:45 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^
Besides, as good a coach as he is, he always seems to have at least one head scratcher game per year. His team this year was Jekyll and Hyde. They crushed Auburn and shut out Missouri, and then inexplicably lost to South Carolina and got taken to the woodshed by a hapless Florida team.
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December 1st, 2014 at 10:50 PM ^
Don't forget the GaTech loss.
December 1st, 2014 at 10:57 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^
You're kidding right? GaT is just a *wee* bit better than Florida.
December 1st, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^
December 1st, 2014 at 10:49 PM ^
Top tier either Harbaugh and Miles
Next tier Stoops, Mullins or Patterson and I would put Richt right in there even though I know this is a Richt to Nebraska thread.
Do the right thing and come home JIMMY!!!
December 1st, 2014 at 11:10 PM ^
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December 1st, 2014 at 11:36 PM ^
when Michigan needed him most he was nowhere to be seen.
December 1st, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^
We knew where he was. He was in the Iowa press box, hanging out with the Iowa people.
December 2nd, 2014 at 2:37 AM ^
when he won us our only national title in ~70 years? Pretty sure he was coaching on the sidelines!
December 1st, 2014 at 11:47 PM ^
December 2nd, 2014 at 2:54 AM ^
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December 2nd, 2014 at 6:53 AM ^
He never once publicly comes to his aid to help call off the dogs.
He did. Three and Out quotes him defending RichRod a couple of times. Granted, Bacon implies that Carr didn't do this often enough, but to say that he never defended him is not true.
December 5th, 2014 at 4:06 AM ^
and it's an especially hollow complaint these days considering he had fuck all to say in defense of Hoke, who was his own guy. You'd think people would have realized after 20 years that Lloyd just really, really doesn't like talking about anything. He's essentially being maligned for not being Bo and having his own TV and radio shows.
December 2nd, 2014 at 12:46 AM ^
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December 2nd, 2014 at 6:41 AM ^
One of the things I always liked about Richt is the very thing that seems to irritate folks in the Georgia fanbase, or some of them anyway. He tries to run the program with an integrity that seems scarcely replicated within his own conference, butting up against the prevailing culture of the SEC. He would probably fit well enough in the Big Ten, but as others have mentioned, it seems like if he wanted to make a jump like that, he would have done it already - at least, if he wanted to make it willingly.
December 2nd, 2014 at 7:17 AM ^
Kirby Smart goes to Georgia (and hires Will Muschamp as DC)...and that's the end of that carousel.
December 2nd, 2014 at 7:57 AM ^
...about Mark Richt. Obviously, he is fine coach with a strong overall record at Georgia.
But his record at Georgia is actually still two notches below the level that Michigan should aim to achieve.
What is Michigan really looking for? Someone who has a decent chance of beating Urban Meyer at least 50% of the time and getting to 10 or more wins more often than not.
And judging by Richt's long track record at Geogia (in 14 years four 1-2 loss seasons and six seasons with 4 or more losses), we can fairly conclude that he has a high floor, but also a ceiling that is below beating Urban Meyer 50% of the time and getting to 10 wins enough.
There is no reason to think that Richt would do better at Michigan than he has done at Georgia.
So, if it would satisfy you to get back to 9-3, then Richt might be fine with you.
But if instead you are looking for a coach that will have a higher ceiling (beat Urban Meyer, and only 12, 11, or 10 wins is considered a 'good' year), then you have to cross Richt off the list.
For me, it is better to gamble on someone with a shorter record but also some chance of a higher ceiling than Richt.
But I guess the best argument in favor of Richt is that he has a high floor. Just as he would not do any better at Michigan than at Georgia, he also would not do any worse.
December 2nd, 2014 at 8:52 AM ^