B1G Bubble Watch / Minny-PSU/ Other Tourneys Open Thread

Submitted by Muttley on

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ON THE BUBBLE

 
Locks in Freefall
Iowa Lost 62-67 vs #147 KenPom NW ↓↓↓???
 
Last Four Byes
Stanford up 7-0 vs ASU Early 1st Half
Nebraska vs OSU 3/14 2:00PM
Tennessee vs SCar 3/14 3:25PM
Xavier Won 68-65 vs Marq today↑, v Cre 3/14
 
Last Four In
Saint Joseph's vs Dayton 3/14 2/30PM
Dayton vs St Joe 3/14 2/30PM
Brigham Young Done as of list publication
Arkansas Lost 71-69 to SCar today ↓↓
 
First Four Out
California Lost 56-59 to Colo today ↓↓
Providence Won 79-74 v SJU today ↑, v SHall 3/14
Minnesota Won 63-56 v PSU today↑, v Wis 3/14
Florida State Won 69-67 v MD today ↑, v VA 3/14
 
Next Four Out
Southern Miss Won 64-56 v UTEP ↑, v TBD 3/14
Missouri Won 91-83 vs TAMU today ↑, vs Fla 3/14
St. John's Lost 74-79 to Prov today ↓↓
Green Bay Done as of list publication

 

 

EDIT 12:22AM π-day

ESPN updated their On-the-Bubble list

 

MH20

March 13th, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^

Normally I root for the underdog (as most of us do) but I have to keep reminding myself that Iowa winning is the best for Michigan, both for a better chance to beat MSU and for staying in the top-50 of the RPI.

The Hawkeyes don't seem to be getting my memo.

MH20

March 13th, 2014 at 10:36 PM ^

In a five second sequence Mike Gesell shoved Drew Crawford in the stomach twice while attempting to drive into the lane.  Both were obvious offensive fouls.

freejs

March 13th, 2014 at 10:48 PM ^

Damn, you don't usually see a team collapse like Iowa absent one guy on the team fucking another guy on the team's girl. 

This is rough. 

freejs

March 14th, 2014 at 1:17 AM ^

I think the collapse is similar, but I don't know about the teams. The Amaker teams never rose as high as this Iowa team did, and always were short a few pieces, even if they had a few decent ones. But the collapse is definitely reminiscent - although this one involved losing to substantially more overmatched teams, I would think. 

MH20

March 13th, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^

Olesani has been a total beast as well.  He doesn't have a ton of points to show for it but he has been a monster on the offensive boards.  Woodbury is useless by comparison.

EDIT: My bad, thought you said during just this game.  Yeah, Marble is the only guy to be consistent for them all season.

B-Nut-GoBlue

March 13th, 2014 at 11:56 PM ^

Eh.  I don't think being emotional and providing leadership are mutual notions.  I've gotta think the players in a way respect some of the times he goes ape, I mean, he was sticking up for them.  I do see your point and there may be merit to it, I'm just not ready to believe that yet. 

Plenty of coaches who freak the fuck out often are/have been known as "good leaders'.  Izzo, Pitino, Knight, Boeheim, and I'd add McCaffrey, as his track record suggests so (one doesn't get Sienna a few plays from the Sweet 16, multiple times, without being a leader).

freejs

March 13th, 2014 at 11:11 PM ^

I don't actually know if I can handle reading their scout board. Yeah, I probably can. Still, I have no hate for that team and this has been kind of sickening to watch. 

Muttley

March 13th, 2014 at 11:43 PM ^

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The Collapse

Feb 18
  • Postponed
Feb 22
Feb 25
Feb 27
Mar 2
Mar 6
Mar 8
Mar 13

 

Prior to the collapse, Iowa was 19-6 with wins @OSU and at home versus Mich, and had only suffered losses to KenPom Top 26 teams.  In fact, prior to the game tonight, Iowa was still ranked 20th by KenPom

Those six losses

DATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME
Nov 30
Dec 13
Jan 5
Jan 22
Jan 28
Feb 4
19 Dates

 

Muttley

March 14th, 2014 at 12:13 AM ^

Marquette makes a layup to pull within 67-65 with two seconds left.  After a Xavier timeout, Xavier successfully inbounds the ball and Marquette fouls with 0.9 seconds left.  In the double bonus, the Xavier free-throw shooter makes the first to put Marquette up three. 

OK, it's looking bleak, but if you're Marquette, I think you should look for a way to maximizze the time.  Next, Xavier makes the mistake of leaving it's rebounders in the lane.  But Marquette doesn't notice.  The Xavier free-throw shooter misses the second free throw, the Marquette player grabs the rebound with a Xavier player standing next to him, a tries to muster an arms-only full court shot that comes up about 15 feet short.

IMO, in those situations, your best bet on offense is to stop the clock and move the ball upcourt via the inbounds pass.  Otherwise, you're conceding.  But Marquette did not have any timeouts left.  What to do?

Well, if I were the Marquette rebounder, I would have attempted to grab the rebound and bounce the ball off the Xavier player next to me so that it would have richocheted out of bounds.  If that could have been done in 0.5 seconds or left, there would have been time for a full length pass and a catch and shoot three.

I know it's not likely, but it's a pet peeve of mine when teams piss away the clock at the end without thinking about how they could play with the clock stopped to give themselves a fighting chance.