Recruiting - Where are we right now?
Alright, so it sounds like we've sort of now seen what there is to see as far as decommitments etc and we know that:
1) We currently have 10 solid commitments now that Goudis and Crawford switched their commitments and are gone, and Fisher is decommitted and nothing more than a possibility.
2) D. Hart (alabama) K. Frost (Auburn has now accepted his commitment) Crawford & Goudis (Miami) and the linebacker from last year Kinard (Miami) are all gone and not possiblities.
3) The new staff told Devin Lucien they were only interested in him for defense and he subsequently cut us.
So who's really left out there thats actually been offered and isn't a complete pipe dream (see Jernigan etc that have neither been visited or mentioned in a while and certainly not since the coaching change).
1) Stefan McClure, CB from California coming in to visit this weekend
2) Frank Clark, LB from Cleveland Glenville visiting this weekend
3) Raymon Taylor, in-state ATH also visiting this weekend
4) Matt Wile, K from San Diego also visiting this weekend
5) Fisher - our former lineman commit
6) Thomas Rawls - the RB from Flint area with test score issues.
7) Chris Bryant - OL from Chicago who visited this past weekend.
Is there anyone else seriously considering us?
January 18th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
If there was ever a year that we could theoretically survive a bad recruiting class, this is likely it. The class above it, partially through redshirts, is pretty darn large and we don't really NEED many of these guys to go right into service save a kicker and maybe one or two d-backs since we have so many starters returning.
That said, yes, we'll need a strong 2012 class after the six kids from last years class that didn't qualify and the smaller class this year.
If he could close with Bryant, a kicker of some form and either McClure or Taylor and one other defensive player of some note we're at 15 and thats not death.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:06 PM ^
I beg to differ. We are comfortably lodged between a rock and a hard place.
January 18th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^
I am pretty sure you mean "A Spock And a Hoke Place"
January 18th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
^^ What he said.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
Estamos Boliviano!
January 18th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
IDK about you but that's deffinetly not where I am
January 18th, 2011 at 1:52 PM ^
We are good and screwed with recruiting this year, thanks to DB's handling of the whole coaching change.
Can we save it over the next 13 days? Maybe, but it ain't going to be easy. Of course Hoke could help himself out a bit if he would hire the rest of his staff already.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:56 PM ^
This will be appearing on the Red Cedar Message Board, the Buckeye Battle Cry, Eleven Warriors, the Black Shoe Diaries and on about 11,637 other websites in the next 60 seconds.
January 18th, 2011 at 1:55 PM ^
TIFWIW just read Rawls will be on his Official Visit to AA the 28th
January 18th, 2011 at 2:09 PM ^
I think there's no question we want him (now that D. Hart's spot is open) and it seems like he wants us (no doubt in part to the fact that Fred Jackson's other son is his coach) but I heard the last hurdle was his ACT score. Perhaps we accept his commitment since it doesn't look like we'll be in the situation where we'll run short on scholarships and if he doesn't get eligible, oh well.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:09 PM ^
As part of their scathing investigation into the questionable character and qualifications of Brady Hoke's Michigan recruits.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
You haven't noticed how, with the exception of that jerkoff Drew Sharp, the Free Press has for the most part changed its tone towards Michigan since RR left.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:38 PM ^
never forget.....
January 18th, 2011 at 4:43 PM ^
In fact, I expect no such treatment of Rawls.
What I wrote was in the profoundest spirit of sarcasm. Why would a Free Press reporter go after a kid from Michigan, who might enroll at The University of Michigan, as one of Brady Hoke's Wolverines? 'Tis unthinkable. I may end up helping Mitch Albom write his inevitable human interest story on how the yongster rose up from his humble origins. If Mitch is too busy, I'll help Drew Sharp work on the story of how Rawls overcame the racist oppression of standardized testing.
For your part, JBA, you've got it exactly right about the Freep.
January 18th, 2011 at 5:05 PM ^
As I am sure this is sarcasm, I don't want to say it but isn't that exactly what happened to Dorsey, I'm sticking to my guns and saying fuck the Freep
January 18th, 2011 at 5:22 PM ^
That was his point, actually.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:48 PM ^
but he has to qualify first. It's all we've been hearing for months now and still hasn't happened. When is the last test he can take and still make it through the clearinghouse?
January 18th, 2011 at 5:29 PM ^
Am I the only one that laughs every time I see the abbreviation TIFWIW? It's so long...
January 18th, 2011 at 10:42 PM ^
We have pretty decent depth at RB so not sure we need another one, a 3* one at that. I'd rahter see some more OL/DL recruits and LB help.
January 18th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^
if we can keep our current commits, and gain a few more i think Hoke deserves a lot of credit. he was thrust into an odd situation but has done a decent job of keeping it intact. but i will say it isn't helping him by not having a d-coordinator in place. speaking of which is there anything new on the DC position?
January 18th, 2011 at 3:02 PM ^
We have already lost commits
January 18th, 2011 at 3:51 PM ^
He's already lost goudis,crawford,frost,lucien,and fisher.kinard and Greer have now committed elsewhere,jones and others are looking around.Sign a DC and lock down some F' recruits.Hoke deserves credit for nothing as of right now, as he's nothing absolutely nothing to this point.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:13 PM ^
Kris Frost today. I would say this picture is accurate.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:32 PM ^
It's unfortunate that Kris decided to sign with Auburn. I just watched the Outside the Lines special on college over-signing (especially the SEC), so I hope it doesn't happen to him.
If you guys haven't seen it you should check it out.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:53 PM ^
This video makes me even more happy we have Hoke instead of Miles. I just can't imagine a Michigan Man doing a kid like that. VERY shady!
January 18th, 2011 at 6:35 PM ^
What's it going to take for the NCAA to fix this?
This is fucking ridiculous. Excuse my language, but the coaches that CONSISTENTLY and REPEATEDLY do this are a FUCKING DISGRACE to collegiate athletics.
I've known about this. I've read about this. I haven't seen this piece before, and you just have to wonder what more is it going to take to make this stop.
Houston Nutt signs 37 kids and jokes about it in a press conference that he could take 80 if he wanted?!?!?!? Holy fuck, I am absolutely baffled.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^
Nice pic
January 18th, 2011 at 1:58 PM ^
I saw some time ago that we could fill as many as 20 spots. Does anybody know the exact number of scholarships we have to offer in this class. Do you think we will fill it out? Would it be better to have a bigger class next year with potentially higher ranked recruits?
January 18th, 2011 at 2:06 PM ^
Mike Williams is likely to get a medical scholly so we are looking at 22-23 open spots. That is what makes the Lucien situation seem so stupid to me because we have plenty of spots open.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:23 PM ^
Say we only sign 15 or 16 in this recruiting class which seems likely if not probable. how many schollies does that leave us with in 2012. The way I was looking at it, it was going to be a bigger class already now add the 6-7 left over schollies. Next year Michigan signs 27?
January 18th, 2011 at 2:31 PM ^
One thing I learned, it ain't how many you sign, it's how many you get in.
Back in the day you played 10-11 games and had 105 schollies. Nowadays you play 13-14 games and have 85 schollies. Seems like bad math to me and a recipe for getting position groups devastated by injury.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:45 PM ^
Yeah, next year is supposed to be a huge year in Ohio recruit wise, so I'm thinking there's gonna be an artificial bump in UM's recruiting rank next year partially because I imagine seeing a big class coming in, and quantity counts more than I at least thought when it comes to team rankings.
January 18th, 2011 at 3:56 PM ^
I'm pretty sure the big ten only allows schools to sign 25 guys/year. However, I think early enrollees count towards the previous years class. So if UM did sign 27 they would need a couple of those guys to enroll early.
January 18th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^
Next year i'm looking for Quantity as well as Quality! //after this class, at least looking at quantity, Next years depth chart is going to have to look like a naked swim suit model to potential recruits.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:26 PM ^
I'd rather take the 15 or so -- best players we can.
Then roll the extra number over for next year, and bring in a huge/great class. Does anyone know the rules on this?
January 18th, 2011 at 2:38 PM ^
I believe it's 25 with a max total of 85? SEC will offer more than 25 before trimming it down to 25. Somebody may correct me on that.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:44 PM ^
I wish we could get a breakdown from Brian or TomVH.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^
Somene said you can get around that, mostly with EE.
I am not sure, which is why I asked.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^
Or you could just be in the SEC and take 30+ players. You can always figure it out later by cutting/grey shirting guys or putting them on medical hardships.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:41 PM ^
We'd probably max out at 25. I'm pretty sure that's the number of scholarships you can give out in a year.
edit: too slow
January 18th, 2011 at 3:39 PM ^
EEs can count toward the previous class - if you have space. It may be limited to a total of 3 - but thyat can get you to 28
January 18th, 2011 at 10:51 PM ^
I'm not so sure about that. I mean Lucien looks like a quality recruit but he never received any offers from Pac10 schools including USC, UCLA or CAL in his home state. Makes one wonder. Plus we have pretty good depth at WR. Where we need help is on the defensive sie of the ball. Which is why I suspect BH asked him to switch to DB.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:07 AM ^
Well, Rivals lists that he does have a UCLA and Cal offer, but he did not get offers from USC, Stanford, Oregon, Washington or Arizona - every Pac Ten team with a winning record this year.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:00 PM ^
LET'S ALL PANIC FOR A CHANGE!
January 18th, 2011 at 2:01 PM ^
the inescapable gravitational field of this:
If we get too close, it'll be a long ride down and out the other side...
January 18th, 2011 at 2:20 PM ^
that fancy little gloryhole you have pictured there?
January 18th, 2011 at 2:27 PM ^
It's his 9-5, Making the world a better place one glory hole at a time.