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Rank Team Delta
1 Boise St. Broncos Arrow_up 4
2 Ohio St. Buckeyes Arrow_down -1
3 Alabama Crimson Tide Arrow_up 1
4 TCU Horned Frogs Arrow_up 7
5 Oregon Ducks Arrow_up 3
6 Texas Longhorns --
7 Miami Hurricanes Arrow_up 3
8 Iowa Hawkeyes Arrow_down -1
9 Wisconsin Badgers Arrow_up 6
10 Oklahoma Sooners Arrow_down -8
11 Nebraska Cornhuskers Arrow_up 1
12 Florida St. Seminoles Arrow_up 2
13 Virginia Tech Hokies Arrow_down -4
14 LSU Tigers --
15 Florida Gators Arrow_down -12
16 Utah Utes --
17 Oregon St. Beavers Arrow_up 3
18 Penn St. Nittany Lions Arrow_up 6
19 Arizona Wildcats Arrow_up 3
20 North Carolina Tar Heels Arrow_down -3
21 Notre Dame Fighting Irish --
22 Pittsburgh Panthers Arrow_down -4
23 Northwestern Wildcats --
24 Clemson Tigers --
25 Michigan Wolverines --
Dropouts: Auburn Tigers, Georgia Bulldogs, Stanford Cardinal, Washington Huskies, Connecticut Huskies, West Virginia Mountaineers

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Comments:

  • Yes, Boise #1. They beat a good BCS-conference team in a virtual road game.
  • I might be dinging Oklahoma a bit too much. Utah State could out together a Idaho-like run this year, and actually be a decent win by the end of the year. On the other hand, typically high-flying Oklahoma beat them by single digits at home.
  • Should I move Texas down a little bit?
  • I'm totally fine moving Florida down that much. They didn't crack triple digits in total yardage until well into the second half. And this came at home against a crap Miami (NTM) team.
  • I considered leaving Michigan off my ballot so as to not tempt the CK award, but they were one of the few teams to curbstomp BCS-conference competition (and the Huskies were being talked about as a Big East Title contender before Saturday).
  • Everything else looks OK to me. Let me know where I've gone horribly wrong.

Comments

jamiemac

September 7th, 2010 at 10:33 AM ^

Well, last I checked Boise was -13 against Oregon State. So, that's an overwhelming favorite against Tim's #17 team. I dont know about any of the other hypothetical matchups, but they were chalk for last night's game--in a road like setting-- all summer long until the typically doubting betting public towards Boise decided again to keep betting against them and VT became the favorite

At home, Boise would be chalk against almost everyone on the ballot, per the oddsmakers.

I think they would be an underdog on the road and nuetral field against the top-10 above, but I dont know what that would prove. You know what your argument reminds me of? When Osborne said the Nebraska should be the 1997 national champs because Vegas announced they would be a 7-point favorite over Michigan. Are you ready to cede the 1997 title due to the alleged odds?

Also, I'll take the Under on those four losses.

Hardware Sushi

September 7th, 2010 at 11:57 AM ^

Good win over a consistent performer in VaTech and I thought Boise showed some great flashes. But after watching that game, I don't see Boise winning the ACC, let alone going undefeated in that conference. The same conference that lost both of its marquee matchups. This is why I have a problem with them at number one...

VaTech gave away the first 17 points and then mounted a too-little, too slow comeback over the course of the last 3 quarters.

This is how I think about it: If MSU had to prep for two games a year, returned 21 of 22 starters, and played a team adjusting to quite a few more new players in the first game of the season, they might win that game, too. They just aren't number one caliber in my book. I still have them in the top 5. Number one should go to so many other teams that showed balance on offense, a stingy (sp?) defense, and the killer instinct to put the game away. I'm looking at OSU, Bama, Oregon (As long as Chip Kelly doesn't have Sheridan/Threet running the O, they'll score), Nebraska (wow!), Miami, or a number of other teams...Feel free to call me a hater haha.

MiamiBlue

September 7th, 2010 at 10:20 AM ^

UNC needs to be moved outside the top 25.  Regardless if they played hard with several players out, and came close, they lost to LSU, and the team will continue to play without those 10 or so starters for an uncertain period of time.  There are other teams more worthy of being placed in the top 25.   

erik_t

September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^

No kidding. My first step upon getting into comments was to search for 'LSU' so that I would not post the same:

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LSU? Really? I mean, really!?

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as everyone else. Holy crap on a cracker they are not a good football team. Should not be in the rankings as near as I can tell.

Hardware Sushi

September 7th, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^

I don't really understand why LSU isn't taking more heat for this. They were 6 yards from losing to a UNC team that:

1. Was missing 12 players, most of whom are starters or at the least decent contributors on defense and

2. An offense that couldn't score on nearly anyone last year and was their obvious achille's heel.

LSU has a great corner in Patrick Peterson but he's only covering one man (and getting most of his PR for return ability). Mallett and McElroy (and Brantley if they can get a snap to him) will burn that team constantly.

Hardware Sushi

September 7th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^

But I would also add that many of the top-25 teams in several of those leagues put up disappointing performances, most notably Florida versus a 1-11 2009 MAC team, Oklahoma barely beating the 3rd-best team in Utah(!), and LSU giving up 400+ passing yards to TJ Yates, someone I was unaware could read a defense/throw a ball while barely putting up 30 on UNC's 2nd-string defense. It seemed there was expected to be a fairly strict line among the SEC with Florida and Bama at the top and the LSUs, Georgia's and Arkansas'. After this weekend, I could see Georgia and Arkansas justifying spots, but if that's the case, then I drop LSU out because they are going to drop quite a few this season.

Obviously, OSU, Wiscy, and Iowa deserve to be there and I think PSU shored up one of their biggest concerns by seeming to at least have a serviceable QB at the helm, with plenty room to grow. Michigan looked great against a potential BCS team and this is a Michigan blog, so I have no problem with them at 25.

I would agree that, if going based on performance in this weekend alone, Northwestern should probably be dropped, although I feel they'll be a top-25 team by year's end. I also think the ACC stinks, like, every year, so I would also agree with dropping some teams in that league.

Logan88

September 7th, 2010 at 10:48 AM ^

I'm not sure what the teams at the bottom of your poll (ND on down) did to merit "bumping" the teams that dropped out (except Washington, who never belonged there in the first place).

ND was hardly dominant against Purdue, N'Western squeaked by a BAD Vanderbilt squad, Clemson whipped their lousy SunBelt opponent but Auburn also whipped their lousy SunBelt opponent and they dropped out. UM also did not do enough to merit an inclusion IMO.

At the top of the poll, yes, Texas should drop after their uninspiring win over a weak Rice team. I would put them at about 11 or 12.

Don't you just love being a pollster? ;-)

wooderson

September 7th, 2010 at 10:52 AM ^

I'm fine with moving up Boise but I wouldn't drop Ohio State from #1.  They were completely dominant...with a different coach than Tressel they might have put up Oregon-esque numbers.

Bodogblog

September 7th, 2010 at 10:56 AM ^

I have nothing new to add to this narrative, but life is different when you only have to roll out of bed twice a season.  That's a good FB team I watched last night, but they wouldn't run the table in the ACC.  Maybe they could.

But it's much too generous to give them that much of the benefit of the doubt.  Not when so many other teams are are actually playing in dogfights vs. arguing hypothetical ones.

Bodogblog

September 7th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^

Do you mean 4 times, or 8 times?  They lost 1 in '08, 3 in '07, and 4 in '05. 

It does mean something, dude: they're a really good team, with a really easy schedule.  Not #1.  I can see a dozen other teams doing the same with that schedule, and I can see Boise dropping at least 2-3 a year playing those team's schedules.

So we're back to hypothetical.  Not enough for a Nat'l Championship

Needs

September 7th, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^

I think Boise's defensible as #1 this week. Next week, depending on what happens with Alabama - Penn State or, especially, OSU - Miami, maybe not. By the middle of the season, they're not likely to be number 1, unless VA Tech becomes dominant themselves.

The problem with the existing polls is that teams' positions are not recalibrated enough week to week. I think Tim's trying to make his poll more fluid based on what's happened to date. If that's so, then Boise is deserving to be #1.

Tacopants

September 7th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^

Am I the only one who noticed that you moved Oregon State up after a loss?  Also, you move UNC and Pitt down only a few spots when they lost, but moved Florida down 12 spots after a victory?

Iowa looked pretty good against ECU as well, not sure why they move down while Texas stands pat.

Tacopants

September 7th, 2010 at 12:18 PM ^

I'd put Oregon State at the bottom of the top 25, but that's only because I viewed them losing to a fringe top 10 team in week 1.  I don't see how you can justify putting them in a grouping with a Utah team that beat a good Pitt team or an Arizona team that dominated their FBS snack better than any team other than Oregon.

 

Drill

September 7th, 2010 at 11:45 AM ^

I totally don't get why some of those teams that dropped out are not in the top 25 anymore.  And frankly, even other than worrying about the CK award, I don't think we should be in the top 25 just yet--I think there are too many concerns about our defense, especially in a secondary that will go up against Michael Floyd next week.

Noah

September 7th, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^

If Michigan is #25, then the Gators should be unranked.  Playing like 2008 Michigan for three quarters against a team that won one game last year doesn't justify a ranking, regardless of where they started.

snowcrash

September 7th, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^

Too high:

Oklahoma - top 10 teams don't squeak by teams like Utah St.

Florida - offense was nonexistent against Miami OH. Not a top 50 team at this point.

LSU - barely avoided embarrassing loss against depleted team.

Penn St - took too long to put away a I-AA team.

Northwestern - didn't look anything like a top 25 team in squeaker over Vandy.

Too low:

Georgia - gave their tomato can a proper beatdown unlike some teams. Would probably crush Florida or LSU if they met this week.

Auburn - see Georgia but on a smaller scale. Defense is questionable.

Oklahoma State - it was only Wazzu but they look dangerous. Kendall Hunter is a player.

formerlyanonymous

September 7th, 2010 at 11:58 AM ^

Utah beat the team picked to win the Big East by a majoritty of pundits. I think that's worth a bit of a bump. But I will agree with Pitts location as both teams were pretty good from what I saw. In other words, they didn't play poorly enough to be dropped.

DrewForBlue

September 7th, 2010 at 12:29 PM ^

If you are going to have 4 ACC teams -- Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, and maybe Clemson.  Clemson has lost to GT four times in a row, and with the tutoring fiasco.....You may be the only blog not to rank Georgia Tech.

StephenRKass

September 7th, 2010 at 12:59 PM ^

Obv., how much can you tell after one game? But I agree with putting Boise #1. Every time they beat a ranked team, that team is dissed as being "overrated," thereby dissing Boise. So long as Boise is willing to play on the road at Alabama, Texas, Florida, OSU, Michigan, USC, etc., w/ no return game to Boise, I think they should be rewarded with their W-L record, regardless of the strength of schedule, and those teams that refuse to schedule a non-conference non-cupcake like Boise should be penalized. Fans of the Big Boys can't have it both ways:  either your respective team's AD needs to schedule Boise, or you waive the right to whine about Boise having a cupcake schedule.

um09inohio

September 7th, 2010 at 1:16 PM ^

Northwestern was not at all impressive in that win over Vandy.  There's a chance that they earn that ranking by season's end but I don't think they've earned it yet.

Likewise, Texas did not look real good on Saturday.  I'd probably put Miami and Iowa both ahead of the Horns.

Aside from those, I have no real issues with the ballot.

TheOracle6

September 7th, 2010 at 2:15 PM ^

Definitely like putting Boise #1.  TUOS played a terrible Marshall team and Alabama played San Jose State.  As for Michigan, i'm not sure that we're a top 25 team yet.  A win this week and then I would definitely put us in the top 25. 

Davidgoblue

September 8th, 2010 at 5:01 PM ^

Boise St doesn't deserve to be number 1 or to play for the national title even if they win every game by 50.

 

They would have multiple losses if they played in the Big ten or SEC.

 

My reasoning is this, If you can't predict them to win the Big ten or SEC if they played in those conferences how can say they are the best team in the country.