JBE

January 1st, 2018 at 10:11 AM ^

At least under Patricia the Lions defense will be terrible again. The familiar feels comfortable. He’s not going to be a good hire.

charblue.

January 1st, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^

And the worst teams never figure out that changing programs and washing and rinsing the latest fashion of coaching will never lead to winning long term until they make a commitment to staying a certain course with a franshise quarterback while filling in the rest of the roster.

The hot coordinator is always the answer as the next best thing. How many Brady-related OC's with the Pats have gone on to NFL succdess as head coaches? Why do they succeed with the Pats but after leaving, things change. Maybe it's just Brady, his head coach and the GM making the right choices to help Brady do what he does best based on the identity and belief system of their team.

How about hot DC's, how have they fared? The problem with teams like the Lions and Browns, the only two league teams ever without a Super Bowl appearance and who also share the dubious distinction of both owning the worst season records in league history, is failure to find any system or stick with one that leads to franchise stability and identity over time, 

The closest the Lions came to that was the growth of the team from the team's 50's heydays when as both a franchise playing in the old black and blue division, they matched brusiing front lines and defense with their primary advesaries in the Bears, Packers and then later the Vikings who along with the Packers in the mid-60's emerged as perennial powers durinng the late stages of a pre-integrated AFL-NFL and then fell off the victory mat along with the Browns, an annual powerhouse that once boasted a potential backfield of Syracuse all-time greats in Jim Brown and Ernie Davis, who died a year after graduating from college and going to Cleveland.

While the Lions stayed in the old NFL after the Jets forced a league merger in 1969 with their extraordinary SB 3 upset win over one of the greatest NFL teams ever in the Baltimore Colts, the Browns went to the new AFL. And while a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers, a terrible NFL franchise, suddeny became a Super Bowl wunderknd after a series of drafts built the foundation of their program that sustains even today on the back of longterm stable quarterbacking, solid defense and regular coaching by three head coaches since 1970.

Compare that to the Lions and Browns muscial chairs operation over time even when they had playoff teams with some fabulous talent.

Look at the teams who succeed now and how that happened. It happened because they found a coach and a quarterback who meshed and a GM who could fill in the blanks and put together the makings of a winning roster.

The Lions are on the cusp of become a chamlionship franchise if only they only can find a stable identity their willing to live with in learing how to win championships based on a growing partnership with a coach and his quarterback. They have the quarterback. They apparently don't have the other ingredients. It's too bad, because the Lions could be one of the great NFL franshises.

 

charblue.

January 1st, 2018 at 11:11 AM ^

the Jaguars before they became what they became. You win with a good quarterback who learns how to win. You win in the league over time by learning what it takes to win and doing the right things as a coach and franchise.

The Panthers have been to two Super Bowls since I moved to Charlotte from Ann Arbor in 2003. How many playoff games have the Lions, Bengals and Jaguars played in since then? And how many coaches have each had since then? This isn't rocket science.

Certain franchises make changes to fill jobs that simply stay the course. Other franchises make changes that alter their course or require a new direction and creation of a new, winning identity that they either fail to reach or never fulfill for a host of ancillary reasons. Winning is a learning process not an overnight phenomenon.

FrozeMangoes

January 1st, 2018 at 11:25 AM ^

The league isnt the same as it used to be. 

 

You need a qb, an above agerave defense and some creativity.  Continuity will never be better than competence.  Esepcially, not with how fast rosters turn over in the NFL.  Rosters are changed daily.  They have unlimited hours to learn playbooks. 

The jags weren't bad bc they changed their coach a lot.  They were bad bc their qb was bad and their coaching was bad. The rams werent bad bc they changed coaches a lot.  Fisher was there for long enough to establish his system.  He isnt a good coach.  

The NFL rosters are so similar in talent that a creative coach makes a huge difference.  Shannahan is putting up more points with Jimmy G and the 49ers than Caldwell was with Stafford and the lions. The VIkings had a better offense than the lions with their third string qb and starting RB out for the year. 

The new NFL passed by Caldwell.  Balance for the sake of balance is a thing of the sixties with how the passing game is officiated.  Continuity for the sake of Continuity doesn't work either.  Competence and Creativity rule the NFL. Caldwell has neither. 

autodrip4-1968

January 1st, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^

Caldwell. I would have kept him. Look at the wins and losses. The Lions were competitive in the majority of their games under his leadership. In my opinion it starts with the general manager. What Caldwell had to work with I would say he did alright.

Yessir

January 1st, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^

It was smart by Quinn to retain JC in the first place.  If the team didn't win, he could always say this was not his guy and move on from him. Gave him a legitimate shot. Retaining was something ownership wanted. 

Now after a couple of drafts and FA periods, evaluating the team, he can get his guy in here. 

 

lilpenny1316

January 1st, 2018 at 12:00 PM ^

The clock is officially ticking on Bob Quinn.  He's bringing in "his guy" after firing Ford family favorite Jim Caldwell.  If he does not have at least a division title or a playoff win on his resume after the 2019 season, he'll be gone.