For All Fans Who Want A New OC, Who Did You Have In Mind?
I keep seeing comments about how Harbaugh needs to go out and find the next Don Brown but for offense. It is my opinion that Don Browns don't grow on trees and are pretty hard to come by. So, is there a specific coach that any of you have in mind or are you all just talking out of your asses?
October 23rd, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 7:03 PM ^
Soup Campbell?
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^
That's not what numerous people have said though. Drevno is primary play-caller with input from Pep, and Harbaugh signals in all plays and has final ok on the playcall. Very similar to what Rich Rod, Meyer, and other offensive minded HC's do.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:53 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 2:13 PM ^
But he has input and final say on all the play calls. He has said so in interviews. Plays are determined by a group with Harbaugh having the final say.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:26 PM ^
Whatever it is that you want to say, say it with fewer commas.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
Let's go full Ferentz... Jay Harbaugh.
October 23rd, 2017 at 9:18 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:46 AM ^
All I know is Michigan needs a WR coach that isn't just a grad assistant.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:12 PM ^
Biggest issue on the team right now, How they don't have a real WR coach is baffling
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^
As I said in another thread, Mario Cristobal. He's a man who wants to be a head coach again. He was an excellent OL coach and recruiter at Alabama. He coached TEs at Miami, including Greg Olsen. In his first year at Oregon, their offense has moved from 36th to 13th in both total yards per game and rushing yards per game. Give him a salary offer he can't refuse and the Urban Meyer 2 year commitment, let him coach two talent-loaded teams in 2018 and 2019 and go be a head coach somewhere else. Get Oregon's WR coach Michael Johnson as well, who we almost hired this year anyways, giving us a bonafide WR coach, and groom him to take over OC duties when Cristobal leaves. Johnson has been an OC before.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:56 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:08 PM ^
If Mora is let go at the end of the season and Harbaugh would pardon or reassign Drevno to give Jed full control of the offense, that would be completely satisfactory in my mind. Just seems like a long shot.
Any interesting candidate could be OC and RB coach Thomas Brown at Miami. He's young as hell (31), played in the NFL, from Georgia, and has a solid track record. Miami is currently 11th in total offense in S&P+, 3rd in rushing, and 17th in passing. Might be hard to get him out from under Richt, however, as that's who he played for at Georgia. He coached Wisconsin's RBs in 2014, so he's not necessarily adverse to coming north.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:11 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:28 PM ^
I think he meant that he's developed incredible substance abuse patterns in his QBs
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
I suggested Mario Cristobel years ago. No sourcing? Come'on, man!
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
Well you see, I'm talking about Mario Cristobal and you're talking about Mario Cristobel. Totally different philosophies, I don't think Cristobel is a fit for us.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
how much of Oregon's improvement on offense is him? How much is just finding the right QB, etc.?
Now that Oregon's first string QB is out with an injury, their offense is not so great, right?
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
Not sure! Some of it may be attributed to Taggart himself, he's a QB and Offensive-minded guy. Yes, they have fallen off offensively since losing their starting QB as most teams do, and they've also hit a brutal stretch in their schedule with Wazzou, Stanford, Utah, Washington.
However, I do know that good offensive lines and running games have followed Cristobal everywhere. I also know that Cristobal was Alabama's best recruiter and would be a recruiting upgrade over Drevno, which, that alone would make him desirable if he was at least as good of an OL coach.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:48 PM ^
But would be be violating an unwritten rule by leaving Oregon after just 1 year? ON new staffs assistants usually give a promise of two years. Sometimes that is broken. But not often.
October 23rd, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^
I mean I know Urban does the 2 year thing, but I'm not sure if that is the common everywhere, or that Cristobal (or anyone that wants to be a HC again one day) wouldn't jump at a pay raise and increase in national exposure.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^
...with healthy, experienced players.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^
I still think a power-spread is the best offense for college in B1G country. Would have the flexibility to lean on the run or the pass depending on the oponent. We all saw how OSU and Clemson were able to light up 'Bama's vaunted defense. Not sure how power oriented PSU is, but they obviously lit up our own vaunted defense.
So whoever the best OC for that is.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^
would kind of like to know how involved Harbaugh is in the play-calling. I know that I will in all likelihood never find out, but it would be interesting to know. Based on what I know about him, or at least what I have heard, Harbaugh has always been heavily involved in offensive scheme. It is almost impossible to know as fans right now who is the primary voice in play calling and offensive game theory on the coaching staff. I am quite sure Harbaugh is the one with final say. I really don't know that we will see Drevno leave anytime soon because it is difficult to ascertain how much of the offensive scheme is even his doing.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
I mean if he wins the Super Bowl again this year and rides out into the sunset, he would be available next fall...
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
And he brings Josh McDaniels as he QCC. While at it, maybe he brings Randy Moss as WR coach and Gronk to work with TE's!!!
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
And he brings Josh McDaniels as he QCC. While at it, maybe he brings Randy Moss as WR coach and Gronk to work with TE's!!!
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:30 PM ^
And he brings Josh McDaniels as he QCC. While at it, maybe he brings Randy Moss as WR coach and Gronk to work with TE's!!!
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:51 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
In points per game this year: UCF, SMU, USF, Arkansas State, Ohio University, Memphis, FAU, Toledo.
If Jim can convince Don Brown to leave BC to head up the defense, why wouldn't we be able to pull an OC from one of these teams? Wouldn't Jim calling them up and asking," How would you like to come to Michigan and make a million dollars a year" be enough of a sell?
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:58 AM ^
Well for many of the schools you just listed, the real OC is the Head Coach: Frost at UCF, Norvell at Memphis, Kiffen at FAU, Chad Morris at SMU, and Blake Anderson at Arkansas State.
Ohio has Co-OCs in Tim Albin and Dave Johnson. Albin is interesting - he's the RB coach and Passing Game Coordinator. Albin has also been a head coach, winning the NAIA national championship with a 13-0 record at Northwestern Oklahoma. His backfields at Ohio seem to be pretty effective. I specifically remember the Tettleton-Blankenship combo.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
Kind of like Jim for us right, oh wait. Funny how that works.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:25 PM ^
I'm not sure what the "Funny how that works" burn is directed at here? But, do the people who say both "Jim is our true OC, he's to blame" and "Losing Fisch calling the offense killed us" realize that these are incompatable thoughts? If you are someone who thinks Fisch was the reason we've fallen off, then your ire should be directed at Pep, not Jim. Passing Game Coordinator is the only thing that has changed in terms of Head Coach-Coordinator dynamics.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:32 PM ^
Jim is an offensive guy and we suck at offense, i'll let you piece the rest together. Also, on OC's under offensive minds not running the show; your logic is faulty. Scott Frost is case and point as no one gave him credit for Oregon and questioned his true role and involvement.
October 23rd, 2017 at 4:28 PM ^
So, when offensive numbskull Urban Meyer had an incosistent offense with great talent, it was entirely his fault, as simply being an offensive-minded head coach is sufficient to make you solely in control of the offense. Of course Urban just improved his approach to improve his offense, and did not in fact let his OC go and go out and hire Kevin Wilson, a great OC, as his new OC. The pitfalls and improvement are 100% on Urban, and the change in offensive coordinator means nothing.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:54 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
1.OC
2. RB Coach
3. WR Coach
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
Mike Hart is only an RB coach at Indiana, right? Surely he would come back for that job at Michigan.
October 23rd, 2017 at 8:02 PM ^
Can you imagine Mike Hart walking onto the field in Spartan Stadium next year as a coach?
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I honestly don't know what to think about that lol.
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:55 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:53 AM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:54 AM ^
Jed was creative. Drevno is not, and I have no idea what Pep even does. Jay is not a RB coach and all you need for evidence of that is the RB pass pro. It’s awful.
Maybe if Mora gets fired we can ged Jed back to be OC. Shed Drevno and Jay. Get a real WR and RB coach.
October 23rd, 2017 at 12:57 PM ^
If Mora gets fired Fisch would likely be the interim HC and eventual HC.. So not sure how your logic is working there.
October 23rd, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^
I have a hard time believing they would hire Fisch.
October 24th, 2017 at 8:52 AM ^
I do think Jay Harbaugh is a weak link, or seems so to me. I think he should go.