Chill the Hell Out
Guys, I know it sucks that we are 5-2, but seriously, everybody just needs to take a deep breath.
No one is getting fired. This is a very good staff that has tried to make it work with some broken pieces this year. How many people here predicted 8-4 before the season? A lot.
Does no one remember how bad things were during the Rodriguez years? Stop calling this the worst you've ever seen.
Seriously, calm the fuck down.
I will concede this: if Chris Balas was right about Brandon Peters (that he's proven to be a massive bust), then we're fucked. Otherwise, relax.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:27 AM ^
Jimbo Fisher won a NC and had a team coming off an Orange Bowl victory against a team who had just about every defensive starter drafted into the NFL predicted to be in the College Football Playoff.
But now his team is 2-4 and in danger of missing a bowl game, it'll be November before they win their first game at home, and it all stems back to losing their starting QB around whom their offense is based.
I can do this too.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:32 AM ^
They've also had a dumpster fire of an offensive line the last two years. Lot of similarities between FSU and Michigan offensively.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:56 AM ^
Cool. When was our Orange Bowl Victory? Or national title? Or big ten championship? Or win over OSU?
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:05 AM ^
2000. 1997. 2004. 2011.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
Cool. I'll see ya on MGoBlog in 2022 for the Big Ten title game!
(did you think posting those dates HELPS your argument?)
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 4:08 PM ^
The point is that the offense is garbage and changes need to be made. Disagree?
That and delusional fans keep saying things will get better because "reasons" and start threads to tell me to calm the hell down on a sports message board.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
Franklin won last night with a roster chuck full of ready to graduate veterans. He deserves credit. Bill O'Brien who recruited most of those players deserves credit. Michigan deserves credit for being very young at exactly the same time Penn State is old and talented
Let's look at it next year when Franklin will be plugging wholes galore with back ups/underclassmen and we're bringing 90% of our players back.
Having the kind of class and roster depth where you don't dip all that much from graduation attrition takes time.
Comparing this team's year 3 to that team's year 3 or whatever is surface analysis. Ignores lots of particular variables to each situation.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:46 AM ^
Ohio State was young when we were veteran last year and yet we didn't beat them, let alone 42-13
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:38 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^
30 years of consistency is not relevent to modern teams. I agree with your points but great coaches can build teams in 3-4 years. I see no sign that our offense will be better next year with this staff. Also my comment was in reply to people who keep making excuses that this team is young. Sparty was young too.
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:34 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 4:06 PM ^
I have little reason to have optimism for the offense next year barring a new OC. Do you honestly disagree with this assessment? Things are trending in the wrong direction on offense. Other coaches have been in similar situations (Penn State in Dec 2015) and made a change. Will Harbaugh?
October 22nd, 2017 at 5:24 PM ^
lol msu played a bunch of walk-ons and sophmores and would have won by 30 in the rain hadn't happened.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:18 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:20 AM ^
On Ace's preview, PSU only starts 3 players on offense who are in their last year of eligibility.
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:14 PM ^
We can add Barkley to that list and possibly McSorley.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
He also won that championship after losing 49-10 to Michigan on the road and people thinking he was going to be fired. How many games have they lost since losing to Michigan? 1. Penn State is probaly quite a bit better than people are giving them credit for and Michigan isn't on that level right now which isn't surprising in a rebuilding year. They could be next year returning most of the starters and depth.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
and he made a major change and hired a good OC. I hope we do the same.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^
He was also an overtime loss to Minnesota away from being fired.
Franklin got lucky against OSU (which we all cheered) and then got lucky again with the 4th down call in our game against OSU, which put him in the BTCCG.
He has a good team now this year but let's not act like he is vastly superior to Harbaugh.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:30 AM ^
I don't think he is superior to Harbaugh at all. I do think he went out and got a good OC. Something we need to do.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 4:51 PM ^
Agree, but that is also mostly on the coaches. They've wiffed on Oline recruiting. Didn't get a good hand, but didn't make up for it.
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:38 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:15 PM ^
He didn't hire Moorhead after the loss to Michigan. Moorhead was there when we killed them 49-10.
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:13 PM ^
Correct. He hired him in the offseason before 2016 when PSU realized their offense was putrid. I suggest we reach the same conclusion this offseason.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
LOL, people downvoting the truth
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
The post contains factual statements, not opinions. Did you read it?
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^
LMAO "ok". Please point it out brah.
Franklin won a B1G championship in year 3 after being obliterated by sanctions.
Harbaugh lost at home to a MSU team coming off a 3-9 season that has almost as much youth as Michigan and was held scoreless in 3 quarters of the PSU trouncing. This team has yet to play OSU yet.
Next year they play @ND, @OSU, and @MSU while also playing Wisconsin and Penn State at home. What part of that is "fine"?
October 23rd, 2017 at 11:23 AM ^
I am not fine with it.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:45 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:53 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:20 PM ^
Harbaugh's program benefitted from Hoke's strong 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes (though he still needed to bring in Rudock as a grad transfer at QB). It's also now suffering from the poor 2014 and 2015 classes. Both are true statements. It's hard to win without a lot of upperclass talent.
October 22nd, 2017 at 4:47 PM ^
Check the MSU depth chart. They only start three seniors on the entire team, the rest are coming back. We start 8? seniors/grads.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:18 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:23 AM ^
exactly what (too?) many on this board expect...to be Alabama. Don't you think?
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
I have an insane expectation to win the Big Ten more than once in 13 years! With one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the country. With the biggest stadium, the most resources, etc. Crazy expectations, I know! But that's what it's like to be an insane emotional fan!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:55 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^
I prefer wins but do you think we should pay top dollar and not get results from the offensive staff? I bet a lot of coaches out there can put up 10 points vs Sparty and 13 vs PSU. Maybe save some $ and lower ticket prices.
By your logic, Brady Hoke was a sound financial decision.
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:53 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
I don't have an issue with Harbaugh as head coach. I have an issue with Drevno and Pep. There are tons of great, young, innovative offensive college coaches out there who would kill to make $1M working for Michigan.
I expect to beat our rivals occassionally and not bet embarrassed in year three. Or at least show a pulse on offense. But then again, I have high standards as a fan.
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:10 PM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
Did you expect our offense to look horrid against almost every opponent including the crappy ones, maybe spare a Higdon takeover vs Indiana. I sure didn't.
October 22nd, 2017 at 12:17 PM ^